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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 22 2009 15:34 GMT
#1
I've never played much Starcraft online. I got into Starcraft a couple months after the first TSL ended, torrenting the VODs and getting hooked instantly. I fucked around a little bit on battlenet and played a single game on iccup, where I played a ZvZ and got sunken rushed... That was the end of that!

I don't have much to do this week, so I'm going to try laddering in the TSL, using Protoss as my race. Anyone have any tips for a first time ladderer? Besides learning a build order?

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Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
November 22 2009 15:40 GMT
#2
Macro like a beast, macro is everything.
sixghost
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2096 Posts
November 22 2009 15:41 GMT
#3
expect to get cheesed every game until you scout otherwise.
mG.sixghost @ iCCup || One ling, two ling, three ling, four... Camp four gas, then ultra-whore . -Saracen
Vequeth
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United Kingdom1116 Posts
November 22 2009 15:41 GMT
#4
Watch all of your replays after the match, going through specifics that you could of done better. It will help to get to know your opponents timings, mindful of your own macro and makes your next match much more straightforward.
Aspiring British Caster / Masters Protoss
TheAntZ
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Israel6248 Posts
November 22 2009 15:41 GMT
#5
scout earlier then is normally advisable. These be cheesy times
Good luck on iccup!
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NonFactor
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden698 Posts
November 22 2009 15:42 GMT
#6
Mentally prepare yourself on getting owned really, really badly. Don't get dis-encouraged if you loose horribly your first 100 games. ;o But remember, everyone started there and eventually got better. I think this is among the more important things to know as a new player. You don't start at top, you start at the bottom.

Other then that, it's the basic. Study, analyze replays, mass game. Mass game = experience = it's what makes the difference. (For me atleast.)
RoieTRS
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States2569 Posts
November 22 2009 15:42 GMT
#7
Dark templars are your friends.
Making games > joining games, because you'll never be able to get into one
If you see a terran all balled and sieged up, you can't take it on. Don't try.
If zergs are sniping your templar, be sure to morph them into archons, because they are going to die if you dont.
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
November 22 2009 15:46 GMT
#8
1. dont stop making probes. Ever. dont queue them
2. keep minerals low (spend on gates, pylons, etc)
3. if pvt, set your goal is to get a lot of goons, and some zealots depending on his tank count
4. if pvp, get goons, then obs, then reaver
5. if pvz, fast expo and then get corsair. When its out, send it to the other guy's main ignoring the overlords you see. Your goal is to see what the other guy is doing. If spire, get 2/3 cannons at main and nat, and make more sairs. if not, get gates gates gates zeals + ht mix and if yuou see lurker, get obs
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
Neivler
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Norway911 Posts
November 22 2009 16:31 GMT
#9
Make DTs. Just go for DT drop and u will get to C/C- ezz.

PS: I hate DT drops :\
I pwn noobs
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
November 22 2009 16:37 GMT
#10
On November 23 2009 01:31 Neivler wrote:
Make DTs. Just go for DT drop and u will get to C/C- ezz.

PS: I hate DT drops :\


or Backho style, it's not like you have to win early with DTs, just MASS DT GOGOOGO
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
November 22 2009 16:55 GMT
#11
Try your best to know what your opponant is doing and think strategically about what you need to do to counter their strategy. If you see an opening to attack take it. Know when to expand and when to mass up an army. Builds, mechanics and game sense all take time to get down but try to use all your game watching experience to know the game better and improve mentally. If you know what you should do at any given moment strategically then you will improve very quickly. Be smart and effecient in your actions.
Nak Allstar.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
November 22 2009 17:32 GMT
#12
macro and defense is EVERYTHING. ppl will try to rush you and then fail to build units afterward.
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
Catch]22
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Sweden2683 Posts
November 22 2009 17:48 GMT
#13
On November 23 2009 02:32 Sunyveil wrote:
macro and defense is EVERYTHING. ppl will try to rush you and then fail to build units afterward.


This.

I cant count the number of games at D+ I won after surviving a DT rush because he has hardly any units to defend with afterwards.
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
November 22 2009 20:38 GMT
#14
Yep, listen to the people that say macro. Make 15+ gates each game and you'll definitely be able to 1a2a3a over your opponents. That, and scout so you see their crazy stupid rush and can scout it. I would say scouting and macro are about equal on the D level.

One more thing that I would say is really important for improvement is to keep your army out and about the map. This helps several things: your multitasking, your minimap use, and your ability to understand map control.
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
blue_arrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
1971 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-11-23 00:15:01
November 23 2009 00:13 GMT
#15
at the d level

1. know how to make crazy and weird strats (double cheese combos, scout rushes, 1 base carriers, cannon pushes etc) make sure you know what you're doing and you understand the concepts and weaknesses of your strats.
2. know how to defend against your average cheese cause this will happen to you a lot
3. macro macro macro in the off chance that the game is standard LOL

i find that at d level this is what you essentially need and learn

if you are serious and want to progress into c and b territory, i think you should get some serious practice partners that will use builds that you want to practice against; d level games on iccup is definately not the best way to practice the standard play required at c and beyond

also strong and careful decisions >>> mechanics at d level

if you were a very knowledgeable and experienced player with 50 apm, you could prbly bash most noobs with up to 160 apm without much difficulty.
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Lemonwalrus
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States5465 Posts
November 23 2009 00:19 GMT
#16
Learn two build orders.
VorcePA
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States1102 Posts
November 23 2009 01:56 GMT
#17
On November 23 2009 00:34 motbob wrote:
Besides learning a build order?


Learn a build order.

Also, scout, scout, scout.

And learn a build order.
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