EPTB+ Korean cheesefags smurfing the D ranks - Page 4
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
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selboN
United States2523 Posts
On November 11 2009 03:49 Jadyks wrote: You're so right iNcontroL, so right. You're so right how are any of us able to exist in the same realm as you? No, sarcasm, you're completely wrong. I've just been cheesed (IE Proxy or 9/9 zealot all-in or DTs with a gate proxy'd in the corner of my base with the pylon on low ground or some other form of bullshit where my opponent clearly has no grasp of standard starcraft other than OKAY LOL I'LL HIT K AND WIN SURE THING) 6 times in a row. 6 times in a row. And this isn't unusual. I'm lucky to get one or two standard games a night, ever. Scout you fucking newb, learn how to cope. This is why you ARE BAD. | ||
OneOther
United States10774 Posts
On November 11 2009 03:49 Jadyks wrote: You're so right iNcontroL, so right. You're so right how are any of us able to exist in the same realm as you? No, sarcasm, you're completely wrong. I've just been cheesed (IE Proxy or 9/9 zealot all-in or DTs with a gate proxy'd in the corner of my base with the pylon on low ground or some other form of bullshit where my opponent clearly has no grasp of standard starcraft other than OKAY LOL I'LL HIT K AND WIN SURE THING) 6 times in a row. 6 times in a row. And this isn't unusual. I'm lucky to get one or two standard games a night, ever. idk what kind of of iccup you are on but i haven't encountered B+ koreans smurfing and cheesing me lol 9 of my last 10 games were all standard. maybe you should try getting on iccup everyone else plays on and enjoys. this must be like a new self-esteem booster method for people who are terrible at this game ha | ||
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Jadyks
United States119 Posts
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Enki
United States2548 Posts
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infinity21
Canada6683 Posts
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Ver
United States2186 Posts
As for those who doubt the level of cheese, Terrans just get cheesed a ton at the lower levels, that's simply how it is. When I offrace I get a tiny fraction of the cheese, but when I play Terran it's at least half the games until you reach C or higher (obviously map dependent too). | ||
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hooktits
United States972 Posts
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Jadyks
United States119 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:08 Ver wrote: Your (awful) attitude in this thread and the situation you find yourself in have a very big correlation. As for those who doubt the level of cheese, Terrans just get cheesed a ton at the lower levels, that's simply how it is. When I offrace I get a tiny fraction of the cheese, but when I play Terran it's at least half the games until you reach C or higher (obviously map dependent too). Oh right because I dislike cheese to the point of writing a frustrated rant about it, that means I'mg onna get cheesed every game? I love your (lack of) logic. | ||
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Coca Cola Classic
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Chaos
United States772 Posts
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Herro_Korea
310 Posts
I have replays and stuff high apm doesnt means someone is good for christ sake, sure its good to have high apm but spaming it doesnt make someone gosu right ? | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
gogogogogogogo EDIT: Oh and this guy clearly doesn't mean B players. He probably means everyone thats D+/C- and better than him. Cmon guy's we've all been at the point where we thought everyone that beat us must have been a smurf who's true rank was B. It's such a nice round letter. | ||
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andiCR
Costa Rica2273 Posts
To tell you the truth InControl, OneOther, infiinty, this is more than a valid rant on his part. It is cool to get your ass kicked once in a while and see wtf happened/learn new things/etc. It is not cool if you are at your best rank (which incidentally is the second lowest rank on ICC) and get your ass kicked 6 straight games by people who are clearly not the same rank he is. If he's in a shitty attitude, its because of posts like "Scout you fucking newb, learn how to cope. This is why you ARE BAD", "Go die", that he has a bad attitude. Learn to empathize a bit with his problem, why the fuck are you giving him this kind of shit? Quite frankly he doesn't deserve it. | ||
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Jonoman92
United States9111 Posts
I guess the problem is C- players playing at D level and D level players like to call them B+ or something. | ||
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Jadyks
United States119 Posts
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Jonoman92
United States9111 Posts
His overall stats were only slightly winning from the whole season when I checked his icc page. He had obviously reset and scoped out bad records to try and appear gosu, which is really kinda pathetic. The guy I'm talking about. http://www.iccup.com/gamingprofile/WestMinusClan.html I was pioi and I have to say I was pretty happy, I love ruining people's records and he also double manner pylon'd me in PvP t.t | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On November 11 2009 03:43 {88}iNcontroL wrote: The things people will say... I'ma go out on a limb and guess that you are bad. Then I'ma guess that "cheese" means anything aside from 2 gate -> expand 5 hatch hydra/muta or 1 fact FE (for you). That being said: Go die. Yep I made presumptions. Yep they are probably a bit exaggerated. But we ALL play ICCUP. We ALL KNOW that the D ranks are NOT swarmed with B+ Korean smurfs cheesing (rofl). And frankly, for you to determine that SC outside of the pro scene is horrible is so incredibly defeatist/cowardly/terribad.. I dunno what to say to you at this point. I personally don't deny that I am bad. In fact, that is the entire point I want to make; I am bad, so let me play vs other bad players until I improve enough to play vs better players. OP did indeed exaggerate a lot, but there ARE really good players who smurf and cheese D players. It has happened to me many times (for instance, I asked one guy who raped me with an inbase proxy if he was really D (because his Zealot micro was kickass), and he answered no and that he had played for 10 years). I can tell the difference between a D player cheesing and a higher level player doing the same thing. On November 11 2009 03:33 infinity21 wrote: Why do D level players get so pissed when better players cheese them? Do you not realize that by trying to finish the game off faster, the superior player is in fact giving you a better chance to win? The friend that taught me how to practice against in-base proxy gate on desti was B high yet he couldn't do anything once I responded correctly. That would give me a big advantage going into mid-game which will improve my chances of winning (it doesn't mean I auto-win because of our skill difference). If he plays perfectly standard, I will probably lose at least 95 out of 100 times. I don't want to play vs WAY superior players at all. Not cheese games, not straight up games; not at all. As I said earlier; I'm not complaining about cheese in itself, I'm fine with cheese (I do it myself sometimes). It's the combination of smurfing and cheesing that gets to me. There is a difference between a friend teaching you in a nice and enjoyable way how to deal with something and random douchebags who smurf and bash newbies. And it's not easy to hold off cheese by superior players when you're a newbie. Watch Bisu when he rapes Perfectman and Snow recently by cheesing, then take the skillgap between them and multiply it by 10 and you have the skillgap between me and some of the players I've lost to in frustrating ways. | ||
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Piy
Scotland3152 Posts
On November 11 2009 04:29 never_toss wrote: While I agree with several people stating that scouting is indication of his skill level to be absolutely awful, I think the OP is right. I understand his rage. As I posted one day, http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=103802, this is a real problem. It was notoriously worse a few weeks ago, but since i reached C- its not happening to me anymore. To tell you the truth InControl, OneOther, infiinty, this is more than a valid rant on his part. It is cool to get your ass kicked once in a while and see wtf happened/learn new things/etc. It is not cool if you are at your best rank (which incidentally is the second lowest rank on ICC) and get your ass kicked 6 straight games by people who are clearly not the same rank he is. If he's in a shitty attitude, its because of posts like "Scout you fucking newb, learn how to cope. This is why you ARE BAD", "Go die", that he has a bad attitude. Learn to empathize a bit with his problem, why the fuck are you giving him this kind of shit? Quite frankly he doesn't deserve it. Being able to play people who actually have a vague idea of what they're doing as opposed to playing random scrubs who are as bad or worse than you is a gooooood thing, and being friendly and talking to people who owned me helped so much a few months ago when I started playing alot. Turns out rage quitting and making sob story blogs doesn't make anyone happier or better at SC  Starcraft really is a hard game, and Iccup isn't a casual way to play it. If you want to play, you'd better put the time in to get at least semi decent and stop whining or just go back to east. That's the logic of everyone who's telling him to go cry more, the same as everyone said in your whiney blog post, and I have to say I agree with them. | ||
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citi.zen
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This is why I find the "just get better" comments frustrating - they are missing the point of his complaint, which is that iccup is not a kind place for "true" D level players - whoever they are (there will always be some D level players, no?). Much of the problem is caused by better players who keep making new accounts and going back to D level. As I mentioned before, currently there are unfortunately few alternatives for D level players - bnet sucks. | ||
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