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for those that read my previous post about my classes, you all know i hate math. Reason being: it gets complicated and with the wrong professor it will get very aggravating. The deciding factor of whether or not i take my math class as a pass/no pass course was with the midterm i just took. I just found out my score and i got a D, no number just a D. Going over the solutions, i found out that if i didn't write down exactly what he wanted, i would lose points. That meant that i had to write down every little detail (such as writing down why i used this such method or why i think my answer is right) to writing whole paragraphs on every goddamn step i make. Last i checked, this was a motherfucking math class, not English. So i did what my TA (teachers assistant) considered "required" work but since i didn't write down the bullshit the professor wanted, he knocked me down to a goddamn D. I got most of the answers right, just "not enough work to deduce that you got it without cheating".
Some background info on this guy: his first time teaching this class and he's a total asshole. That flying fucktard teaches goddamn slow straight from the book with no variation and when we ask to do another example, he responds by saying "we have no time" or my personal favorite, "that's as complicated as it is going to get". Apparently not. Then the bastard says it's our fault that we're going so slow and behind schedule because we don't learn fast enough and he has to go slow in order for us to learn the "proper" method. Yeah sure.
So this had made my decision about taking calc pass/no pass. thank god that i don't have to take another one for my major and i can focus on English instead.
 
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why do you hate math if you just hate your teacher? math is awesome.
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every teacher has their hoops that you have to jump through
plus, if you know what he wants, why can't you do it? If you understand the math (the hard part imo) just write down why you did it, which you could probably answer in a rather bland way
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Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself.
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On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself.
I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
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On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
Maybe that works in the first or second year of undergrad study, but that sort of mechanical mindset gets killed to pieces in higher level courses, depending on the specific subject.
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School, in general, is only partly knowing the subject. The rest of it comes from knowing the teacher and how he/she does things or how he/she wants you to do it.
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United States3241 Posts
If you hate math, you must hate almost everything in this world
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Baa?21244 Posts
Learn to show work then...?
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I feel the same way. Especially if you are just starting out, you will find it very difficult to say and write "what the professor wants". Mark my words, however, that eventually (ie. after getting enough Ds) you will know what the professors want to see.
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On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
I couldn't be more offended by this so...
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On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
Definitely not how you learn math.
If you just memorize these things pointlessly without understanding why it's done or where it comes from you aren't going to get it. Yeah, you might get the grade, but it'll hurt you later.
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Baa?21244 Posts
On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
Ah, yes. To echo what other people have said, that's not math. What you are describing is like...arithmetic. Mechanical repetition. That's not math >_>
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On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
What is the most advanced mathematics course you've done?
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On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself.
In my opinion this is almost impossible in math unless you have some type of awesome math background and have been teaching yourself for a long time.
Some math books are horrendously shitty....the longs proofs that make little or no sense with absolutely no indication of why the assumptions were made. The example problems that are either A) made up so poorly it takes an incredibly long time just trying to decipher what/why its asking
or
B) the ridiculously easy example problem that allows you to only do like 2 of the homework problems before getting stuck because theres absolutely no reference for how to do the problem you are now because its far more involved than the example problem.
I hate math or at least the way math is taught. This is coming from Junior Mechanical Engineering student too. Proofs are ridiculous.
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On November 02 2009 12:45 Sadist wrote:
B) the ridiculously easy example problem that allows you to only do like 2 of the homework problems before getting stuck because theres absolutely no reference for how to do the problem you are now because its far more involved than the example problem.
I fucking hate that shit.
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math was fun. then calculus came along. math was no longer fun.
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On November 02 2009 13:12 29 fps wrote:
math was fun. then calculus came along. math was no longer fun.
Not the fault of math in my opinion... calculus can be more fun than the prior stuff! But, it's harder to teach it in a way that makes it fun I suppose. Or maybe just less focus is put on to making the learning fun when reach that level...
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On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it.
I Just... uh.... KJL;FDJKAJKF
follow this guy's advice if you want to get a C/B in the course, learn absolutely nothing in the class, and not enjoy any aspect of it.
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Aotearoa39261 Posts
On November 02 2009 12:39 illu wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2009 11:06 Archaic wrote:On November 02 2009 11:01 Cloud wrote:
Dude I've had my series of shitty teachers. People who would have no clue at all on the subject or would just come in, ask "any question" and since obviously no one ever studied and had no doubts, then he would just walk away.
You cant go in school with the mentality that you're gonna receive in a silver platter everything that you're ever gonna need, especially considering that you sound like you're not in a rich kid's school and (I hope) you're mature enough.
Study by yourself for yourself. I'd agree with this. Honestly, math is straight-forward, very linear. Study the process, and repeat the memorized instructions. Whether it makes sense or not, you should be able to come upon the answer that your teacher wants. Just remember certain rules (which are usually minor changes). Examples include coefficients and constants before variables, rationalized fractions, etc. Just remember what your teacher wants, remember the rules that you studied, and that is really all there is to it. What is the most advanced mathematics course you've done? I'm a math major, and I agree with what he said. Any math at undergrad level is exactly what he described (and if you don't see that then just think really hard about all the math you've done). It's not until you start doing higher level stuff and research that its not just a mechanical process anymore.
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