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EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 04:00:13
October 01 2009 03:58 GMT
#1
Sup yos!

A friend of mine also started working out. He says he just wants a bit of everything (strength, muscle, toning), and uploaded a video on YouTube recently. Can you please judge his training? Please keep the bashing, laughing to death and flaming to a minimum, he's just starting out! lol

Here's the vid:



I'm currently following StrongLifts 5x5 program in our uni's gym (Thank you AoN.DimSum!) but I'm not quite sure if that would suit him much (equipment-wise), he apparently has only some sort of bar and plates.

thx peeps

**
number1gog
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1081 Posts
October 01 2009 04:17 GMT
#2
(not posting to youtube because I'd get lost in the cacophony of retards sounding off with hatred and bullshit)

Tell him not to swing the weight around during reps. Ex. when he's doing bicep curls, he's using the momentum of the weight to power the weight upwards. He's cheating himself.

Really, he needs to learn proper form from a professional trainer. At some point it becomes a safety issue.
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Pengu1n
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States552 Posts
October 01 2009 04:28 GMT
#3
what the hell was that? he doesn't seem serious about working out at all so why should we waste time judging this "training"?
SanguineToss
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada815 Posts
October 01 2009 04:29 GMT
#4
'your friend'.
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 04:37:25
October 01 2009 04:36 GMT
#5
He is benching wayy too fast, needs to slow it down. Like number1gog said, he is using cheating himself by using momentum. It's the same with the benchs as well. He is gaining that momentum by a fast rebound. Yeah also of course same with the biceps. He needs to start at one point, lift up, pause ever so slightly, then back down to the same point. If he can't do it slow that means he needs to go down a weight.

Just tell him to slow down his reps and really focus on the muscle contraction. It's better off to go slow with a low weight and do a proper rep than doing incorrect reps with higher weight.

Edit:

On October 01 2009 13:29 SanguineToss wrote:
'your friend'.


yeah that's why he looks the exact same in the video as in his profile picture -.-
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 05:42:19
October 01 2009 05:40 GMT
#6
everyone knows to be a ripped sc player you just need to reach 100 pushups and do lots of cardio to get ripped. There's some 100pushup site you can google to do it.

I would reccomend ditching that dumb bench press machine, that's just for ego lifters

I also think a vegetrian diet is optimal for muscle growth as it much more healthy for you.
fEAthEr
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada482 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 06:03:37
October 01 2009 06:01 GMT
#7
post above imho doesnt gym at all.

Your friends bench form could need a little help. Tell him to arch his lower back (you should be able to put a fist under your lower back), and to make sure hes doing the full range of motion (the bar should touch his chest just under the nipples. Also, I'm unsure on what his goals are, but for strength and hypertrophy training he should slow down on his presses (something like 2 seconds down, 1 second up).

He's gonna need more equipment too. or atleast a make shift squat rack, and some type of floor that he can drop the weights on.

tell him ab building is futile unless he plans to drop his body fat to about 10-12%. If he can do that, props on him.

:3. work hard, and get huge like nada mang.


edit:

book suggestion!

Starting Strength my Mark Rippetoe

its easily torrentable, and within a single read of it you can point fingers at 60-70% of people in a gym and see how inefficiently/improperly they're working out...
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 06:03:56
October 01 2009 06:01 GMT
#8
wouldn't doing 100 pushups just increase your endurance, heart and give you some toning? i'm not quite sure it would buff you up or strengthen you better than if you had started out doing a moderate amount of reps (8-12) with progressively increasing weights?

lol @ those thinking that is me, why would I want to show myself off benching 30lb? XD

+ Show Spoiler +

me (before i started weightlifting)
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him
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edit:

thx for the insight fEAthEr n_n LOL like nada, agreed!
Ganfei
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Taiwan1439 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-10-01 06:06:34
October 01 2009 06:04 GMT
#9
I don't even get what the shit is going on in this video. He's "curling" some sort of brick? He's not even using his muscle at all, he's just swinging his arms around. I thought he was stretching when I saw that or something, just windmilling his arms, then I realized that was supposed to be an exercise. Surely he can feel that he isn't actually using his muscle whatsoever to do that. When he's benching, you can see that those weight plates would just fly off if they weren't connected to the bar.

Invest in some actual weights if you don't intend to go to the gym. Holding onto some flat pieces of whatever they are to do curls is not at all optimal.

Slow down. Bench heavier weight, slower rep. Needs a more balanced approach. Look up some workouts you can do with free weights only. Probably want some curls, hammer curls, skull crushers, bent over rows, all that shit.

It's a lot easier to just go to the gym (if you are in school [college], you probably have a free gym you can go to.

Pokepill I don't get it; how is a bench press for "ego lifters?" It's like the most basic compound lift.
You are crushing me like a cheese sandwich
Zapdos_Smithh
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Canada2620 Posts
October 01 2009 06:12 GMT
#10
On October 01 2009 15:04 NoobsOfWrath wrote:
I don't even get what the shit is going on in this video. He's "curling" some sort of brick? He's not even using his muscle at all, he's just swinging his arms around. I thought he was stretching when I saw that or something, just windmilling his arms, then I realized that was supposed to be an exercise.


lololol funny
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
October 01 2009 06:14 GMT
#11
i have to admit that gave me a chuckle too lol
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
October 01 2009 06:16 GMT
#12
On October 01 2009 15:01 fEAthEr wrote:
post above imho doesnt gym at all.

Your friends bench form could need a little help. Tell him to arch his lower back (you should be able to put a fist under your lower back), and to make sure hes doing the full range of motion (the bar should touch his chest just under the nipples. Also, I'm unsure on what his goals are, but for strength and hypertrophy training he should slow down on his presses (something like 2 seconds down, 1 second up).

He's gonna need more equipment too. or atleast a make shift squat rack, and some type of floor that he can drop the weights on.

tell him ab building is futile unless he plans to drop his body fat to about 10-12%. If he can do that, props on him.

:3. work hard, and get huge like nada mang.


edit:

book suggestion!

Starting Strength my Mark Rippetoe

its easily torrentable, and within a single read of it you can point fingers at 60-70% of people in a gym and see how inefficiently/improperly they're working out...


you must be a gym noob, I am a personal trainer
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
October 01 2009 06:19 GMT
#13
PokePill, this little dude can do 100 push ups:



he dont look pretty buff imho =/
PokePill
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States1048 Posts
October 01 2009 06:30 GMT
#14
On October 01 2009 15:19 EsX_Raptor wrote:
PokePill, this little dude can do 100 push ups:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiiPSm5o42E

he dont look pretty buff imho =/


The kid is 12, fastforward to where he flexes, pretty buff imo!
FragKrag
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
United States11565 Posts
October 01 2009 06:31 GMT
#15
kid is hopped up on hgh and steroids
*TL CJ Entusman #40* "like scissors does anything to paper except MAKE IT MORE NUMEROUS" -paper
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
October 01 2009 06:53 GMT
#16
DO CROSSFIT.

that will give the best results in the quickest time. Best of all it's free. and you WILL see significant results after 6 weeks.

I did it, i still do it and holyshit i love it.

btw- that 12 year old is doing cheater pushups, and is on roids lol (well maybe not the roids, but those pushups were terrible )
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
eMbrace
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States1300 Posts
October 01 2009 07:02 GMT
#17
those aren't real pushups, im surprised he couldn't do 1000
Speake
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States494 Posts
October 01 2009 08:21 GMT
#18
pick 7 excercises for each body part (bis, tris, legs, chest, shoulders, back)

split days like this
1 - legs
2 - back
3 - off
4 - chest (don't bench the top 15% of the rep otherwise you work your shoulders)
5 - shoulders
6- arms
7 - off
etc.

Do 15-20 total sets each day ranging from 7-12 reps per set. You should have 4-5 diff. exercises per bodypart except tris and bis, which should be 3-4
Throw in calves/ abs every other day and do 6-9 sets of 2-3 excercises (if you feel these necessary; i trained calves for a year and a half with very minimal results and now i just skip them entirely)
I usually put deadlifts on my back day, but every now and then i'll do stiff legged deadlifts on leg days

Eat 200 calories above your maintenance (what you'd eat to stay the same weight)
Pretty simple.

I started as a scrawny 135-140 pounder and i'm about 200 pounds now 2.5 years later
theres some pics of my progress here if you care
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/photo/showgallery.php?ppuser=184440&cat=500
tQ.Speake
Fen
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Australia1848 Posts
October 01 2009 09:07 GMT
#19
Hes cheating in every exercise. Tell the guy to go to a gym and learn how to workout properely.
Divinek
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Canada4045 Posts
October 01 2009 09:28 GMT
#20
He should learn to do the full range of motion for everything. You know like pushups actually ALL the way down, and bench press all the way down. That'll probably help him slow down, because he must think working out is a race.

Never attribute to malice that which can be adequately explained by stupidity.
Oh goodness me, FOX tv where do you get your sight? Can't you keep track, the puck is black. That's why the ice is white.
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