• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 07:43
CET 13:43
KST 21:43
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 284HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April7Weekly Cups (Jan 19-25): Bunny, Trigger, MaxPax win3Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8
StarCraft 2
General
Clem wins HomeStory Cup 28 HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction StarCraft 2 Not at the Esports World Cup 2026 Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win
Tourneys
HomeStory Cup 28 $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly)
Strategy
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 510 Safety Violation Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Can someone share very abbreviated BW cliffnotes? 2024 BoxeR's birthday message Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War BSL Season 21 - Complete Results
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia
Community
General
The Games Industry And ATVI US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread YouTube Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Quickbooks Payroll Service Official Guide Quickbooks Customer Service Official Guide
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1421 users

Thanks for the cheese!

Blogs > Gnarly
Post a Reply
Gnarly
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States151 Posts
September 28 2009 18:39 GMT
#1
--- Nuked ---

*
Snet *
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
September 28 2009 18:43 GMT
#2
You will probably want to start playing all the matchups, not wait until you're C rank. You will get dominated at C level in a matchup you haven't been playing and probably lose all your motivation to play. I mean unless you reset your account and play to C again on your other matchup, which doesn't sound like the most effective way of training as you would become rusty in your previous mu.

I guess what I'm saying is for me personally dodging certain matchups because you know you're bad at them is no way to become better at this game.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24753 Posts
September 28 2009 18:44 GMT
#3
If you are just practicing one matchup then you really shouldn't be worrying about rank at all. Once you are ready to play all matchups then reset or make an account and get THAT one ranked up.

Also lol @ "this build, the bulldog, is pretty sound for early aggression"
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 28 2009 18:48 GMT
#4
good luck! I'd help you on PvP.. but i suck at it
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
September 28 2009 19:02 GMT
#5
Theres a huge gap between D+ and C; I wouldn't count on reaching it any time soon... but if you want to practice some PvZ i'll play with you
MyLove + Your Love= Supa Love
niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 28 2009 19:19 GMT
#6
I was also thinking about having 3 separate accounts, one for each matchup.
Might be a great way to measure skill and get proper practice partners.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 28 2009 19:53 GMT
#7
On September 29 2009 03:39 Gnarly wrote:
So I've made my way up to D+ now, which isn't really saying much. Hey, it's my first time actually applying myself to starcraft, and ranking up. I believe my record since I started my goals is 9-3. Thanks to getting cheesed a few days ago, I learned how to scout it. Which came in handy today to getting above that two-thousand point mark. Woot.

Now I just need to reach C-, which shouldn't be too hard. Maybe when I get to C, I'll start practicing another match-up. So far, I've just been playing PvT matches, and want to move on to PvZ next.

This build I've been using, the Bulldog, is pretty sound for early aggression. I even went through it completely to see if I could somehow get a faster attack, but I still haven't found an efficient way...

And I'm also looking for a D+/C- team to practice with. That speaks English. So far, no luck.


The bulldog is suppose to be aggressive. Thats the entire point of the build. I suggest you practice more than just that one build, otherwise you're gonna run into huge problems later on (C- level). The point is, at D rank, playing PvT is one of the easier matchups, as D rank terrans tend to constantly lose to protoss players (macro and timing problems). Basically, you should also be learning other builds like 2gate goon, or 1 gate expo etc etc. If all you learn to do is bulldog everyone, then pretty soon your progress is gonna hit a wall. (also will leave you at a big disadvantage when playing someone in a Bo3/Bo5)
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 28 2009 20:12 GMT
#8
On September 29 2009 04:19 niteReloaded wrote:
I was also thinking about having 3 separate accounts, one for each matchup.
Might be a great way to measure skill and get proper practice partners.

Interesting.. my pvz would be like C level, pvt like c- and pvp like d- lOL
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
CookieswithMilk
Profile Joined September 2009
23 Posts
September 28 2009 20:13 GMT
#9
Personally I've been trying alot of different builds with protoss but the best one I come to the conclusion so far is the 1 gate observers - expand. It puts u at an advantage when you can't scout ur terrran opponent that seems to block his choke with a few depots and a rax. I use this build 90% in my PvT games and I found it to be strong when you double expand, giving you an eco advantage.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
September 28 2009 20:14 GMT
#10
Yeah, I have this huge disparity between different matchups. vT probably C- or so, vZ D+ or so, and I get stomped by any P, basically.
AIV_Funnytoss and sGs.Funnytoss on iCCup
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 477
OGKoka 216
SortOf 102
Rex 5
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4044
PianO 2127
Rain 1921
GuemChi 778
Jaedong 766
Hyuk 646
Shuttle 492
EffOrt 384
Stork 337
Leta 264
[ Show more ]
BeSt 252
Soma 247
Hyun 232
Light 223
Larva 220
Rush 148
Pusan 128
ggaemo 122
Soulkey 113
Mong 80
JYJ 80
Backho 56
ToSsGirL 47
Shinee 37
Movie 32
Free 25
sorry 19
zelot 19
GoRush 19
Terrorterran 18
IntoTheRainbow 17
scan(afreeca) 17
Yoon 14
ajuk12(nOOB) 13
SilentControl 9
Icarus 5
Dota 2
Fuzer 163
XcaliburYe136
League of Legends
Reynor33
Counter-Strike
shoxiejesuss1083
Other Games
gofns21285
B2W.Neo459
crisheroes230
Mew2King82
KnowMe47
Hui .41
rubinoeu2
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick849
BasetradeTV224
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 14
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 16 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• escodisco299
• StrangeGG 47
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV226
• lizZardDota257
League of Legends
• Jankos1743
• Stunt456
Upcoming Events
Showmatch
17m
Creator vs GuMiho
Ryung vs Elazer
SHIN vs Bunny
YoungYakov vs Shameless
Big Brain Bouts
4h 17m
goblin vs Kelazhur
TriGGeR vs Krystianer
Replay Cast
11h 17m
RongYI Cup
22h 17m
herO vs Maru
Replay Cast
1d 11h
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 23h
Replay Cast
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
The PondCast
5 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-05
HSC XXVIII
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Rongyi Cup S3
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.