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Gnarly
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States151 Posts
September 28 2009 18:39 GMT
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Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States3573 Posts
September 28 2009 18:43 GMT
#2
You will probably want to start playing all the matchups, not wait until you're C rank. You will get dominated at C level in a matchup you haven't been playing and probably lose all your motivation to play. I mean unless you reset your account and play to C again on your other matchup, which doesn't sound like the most effective way of training as you would become rusty in your previous mu.

I guess what I'm saying is for me personally dodging certain matchups because you know you're bad at them is no way to become better at this game.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24745 Posts
September 28 2009 18:44 GMT
#3
If you are just practicing one matchup then you really shouldn't be worrying about rank at all. Once you are ready to play all matchups then reset or make an account and get THAT one ranked up.

Also lol @ "this build, the bulldog, is pretty sound for early aggression"
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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 28 2009 18:48 GMT
#4
good luck! I'd help you on PvP.. but i suck at it
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
n.DieJokes
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States3443 Posts
September 28 2009 19:02 GMT
#5
Theres a huge gap between D+ and C; I wouldn't count on reaching it any time soon... but if you want to practice some PvZ i'll play with you
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
September 28 2009 19:19 GMT
#6
I was also thinking about having 3 separate accounts, one for each matchup.
Might be a great way to measure skill and get proper practice partners.
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
September 28 2009 19:53 GMT
#7
On September 29 2009 03:39 Gnarly wrote:
So I've made my way up to D+ now, which isn't really saying much. Hey, it's my first time actually applying myself to starcraft, and ranking up. I believe my record since I started my goals is 9-3. Thanks to getting cheesed a few days ago, I learned how to scout it. Which came in handy today to getting above that two-thousand point mark. Woot.

Now I just need to reach C-, which shouldn't be too hard. Maybe when I get to C, I'll start practicing another match-up. So far, I've just been playing PvT matches, and want to move on to PvZ next.

This build I've been using, the Bulldog, is pretty sound for early aggression. I even went through it completely to see if I could somehow get a faster attack, but I still haven't found an efficient way...

And I'm also looking for a D+/C- team to practice with. That speaks English. So far, no luck.


The bulldog is suppose to be aggressive. Thats the entire point of the build. I suggest you practice more than just that one build, otherwise you're gonna run into huge problems later on (C- level). The point is, at D rank, playing PvT is one of the easier matchups, as D rank terrans tend to constantly lose to protoss players (macro and timing problems). Basically, you should also be learning other builds like 2gate goon, or 1 gate expo etc etc. If all you learn to do is bulldog everyone, then pretty soon your progress is gonna hit a wall. (also will leave you at a big disadvantage when playing someone in a Bo3/Bo5)
andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
September 28 2009 20:12 GMT
#8
On September 29 2009 04:19 niteReloaded wrote:
I was also thinking about having 3 separate accounts, one for each matchup.
Might be a great way to measure skill and get proper practice partners.

Interesting.. my pvz would be like C level, pvt like c- and pvp like d- lOL
Nightmare1795 wrote: I played a guy in bronze who said he was Japanese. That was the only game I ever dropped a nuke, which was purely coincidental.
CookieswithMilk
Profile Joined September 2009
23 Posts
September 28 2009 20:13 GMT
#9
Personally I've been trying alot of different builds with protoss but the best one I come to the conclusion so far is the 1 gate observers - expand. It puts u at an advantage when you can't scout ur terrran opponent that seems to block his choke with a few depots and a rax. I use this build 90% in my PvT games and I found it to be strong when you double expand, giving you an eco advantage.
Funnytoss
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Taiwan1471 Posts
September 28 2009 20:14 GMT
#10
Yeah, I have this huge disparity between different matchups. vT probably C- or so, vZ D+ or so, and I get stomped by any P, basically.
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