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On September 07 2009 15:59 AzureEye wrote:
No need to bash him this much, its a frigging blog post
I understand your pain even though I quit Zerg long time ago. The reason why I quit Zerg was because Zerg rarely had any cheeses and always had to adapt according to your opponent, and if Z did have some, it was pretty much all-in unlike Terrans who can cheese and never get punished for it because most of their cheese is not all-in.
Your first example verses the Protoss player was kinda meaningless because it was your fault for playing a dumb map that allowed that kind of shit. (When I used to see Terrans who made Lost Temple on iccup, I would join, make fun of him for hosting the imba map, and just leave right when game started)
But I totally feel your pain of having to scout for that hidden proxy because Zerg cant proxy anything and the mere fact that you're wasting your scouting worker's time JUST to look for the non-existent proxy already creates a small disadvantage.
You just have to accept the fact that no human-made RTS game can be truly balanced. [Insert Artosis's Famous Balance Quote Here] Yes, Starcraft is a balanced piece of art but its not balanced enough (underpowered Z, overpowered T, sometimes)
Just change your race or just accept that Starcraft is the way it is and its way too late for them to tweak balance issues. But yeah, they really should have thought better than to give Toss/Terran ability to proxy, lift-off into your main type of cheese, transition from bio to mech to wraith air so easily kind of stuff
I'm blabbing on because I'm writing this at 4 am but yeah, don't play shitty maps and stick with another race. I love Zerg but I quit playing Z because I felt that Z was way too disadvantaged against some matchups (ZvT cough)
LOL this is the biggest troll post in the history of terrible troll posts
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Sad thing is it wasn't a troll.
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fuck that I get all-in linged every game tvz nowadays
i even see it fucking coming but nooo if i 1 rax fe 2 firebats and 8 rines cant fend fucking 30 speedlings shitting on your nat without having to lift and go 1 base play only to see 4 lurkers coming to assfuck you right after
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I like how the counter to zerg complaining too some people is complaining about there own experience about how they always lose vs zerg.
Such a nice, stupid world we live in.
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lol you know what? fuck D that's right fuck it. I just decided to jump on again- and over pooled every game.
FUCK YA 4 and ohhh bitches. I got 2 cheezing bastards with their pants down, and the other two tried some cute shit that failed.
Fuck 12 hatch- overpool ftw.
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On September 07 2009 17:52 Misrah wrote:
lol you know what? fuck D that's right fuck it. I just decided to jump on again- and over pooled every game.
FUCK YA 4 and ohhh bitches. I got 2 cheezing bastards with their pants down, and the other two tried some cute shit that failed.
Fuck 12 hatch- overpool ftw.
Now the next time someone posts a blog similar to your op, you can laugh at how much of an idiot they are too! :D. Grats 
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tau cross vs P you never 12hatch. Ever. I have no idea why anyone would even consider it in any situation.
On HBR 9pool isn't bad vs T. Their wall at nat will most likely have the second supply depot just started and you should be able to kill it since they won't be able to repair. Their barracks possibly isn't finished when you arrive either. A drone scout harrass would help immensely, but 9pool + drone scout is quite a hit to your economy. If they wall their main, the depot wall won't hold and the rax-fac wall lets you kill the factory. If you force them to pull a lot of SCVs and get a couple of them, you're pretty much even or ahead, and their entire timings are screwed up.
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Overpool is preety standard build in zvp and in no way you are behind vs fe infact you are getin advantage making p go forge cannon first instead nexus. every zerg that goes 12 hatch on tau deserves to get cannon rushed every time. I know i cannon rush zergs when i see them 12 hatch and i scout them at first try = free points
Dont hate iccup for your incompetence of not understanding basic stuff. And for the record tau cross is Z>>>>>P i know this because i play zvp pvz
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+ Show Spoiler +On September 07 2009 18:33 SkelA wrote:
Overpool is preety standard build in zvp and in no way you are behind vs fe infact you are getin advantage making p go forge cannon first instead nexus. every zerg that goes 12 hatch on tau deserves to get cannon rushed every time. I know i cannon rush zergs when i see them 12 hatch and i scout them at first try = free points
Dont hate iccup for your incompetence of not understanding basic stuff. And for the record tau cross is Z>>>>>P i know this because i play zvp pvz
Yea I'm with you misrah ♥ fuck P on that map with their forge block bullshit or how about a little proxy barracks, into proxy factory ... notice that everyone who replied OMG you don't like CHEESE??? is either p or t. And no overpool = forge, nexus, cannons
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On September 07 2009 14:54 Misrah wrote:
Im going to play halo.
Yessss come to the dark side.
GT: bwwaaaa
Add me yo!
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On September 07 2009 18:33 SkelA wrote:
Overpool is preety standard build in zvp and in no way you are behind vs fe infact you are getin advantage making p go forge cannon first instead nexus. every zerg that goes 12 hatch on tau deserves to get cannon rushed every time. I know i cannon rush zergs when i see them 12 hatch and i scout them at first try = free points
Dont hate iccup for your incompetence of not understanding basic stuff. And for the record tau cross is Z>>>>>P i know this because i play zvp pvz
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Most maps (like HBR) you can forge nex before cannon against overpool.
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On September 07 2009 19:21 Harem wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2009 18:33 SkelA wrote:
Overpool is preety standard build in zvp and in no way you are behind vs fe infact you are getin advantage making p go forge cannon first instead nexus. every zerg that goes 12 hatch on tau deserves to get cannon rushed every time. I know i cannon rush zergs when i see them 12 hatch and i scout them at first try = free points
Dont hate iccup for your incompetence of not understanding basic stuff. And for the record tau cross is Z>>>>>P i know this because i play zvp pvz ? Most maps (like HBR) you can forge nex before cannon against overpool.
Easy to stop send 9 drone to check if he has probe and building pylon with drone and block place for forge if he is send 1-2 more drones = making toss mad and discing . Had exatcly game like this last season
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On September 07 2009 18:50 Wotans_Fire wrote:+ Show Spoiler +On September 07 2009 18:33 SkelA wrote:
Overpool is preety standard build in zvp and in no way you are behind vs fe infact you are getin advantage making p go forge cannon first instead nexus. every zerg that goes 12 hatch on tau deserves to get cannon rushed every time. I know i cannon rush zergs when i see them 12 hatch and i scout them at first try = free points
Dont hate iccup for your incompetence of not understanding basic stuff. And for the record tau cross is Z>>>>>P i know this because i play zvp pvz Yea I'm with you misrah ♥ fuck P on that map with their forge block bullshit or how about a little proxy barracks, into proxy factory ... notice that everyone who replied OMG you don't like CHEESE??? is either p or t. And no overpool = forge, nexus, cannons
Not correct again If zerg is doing overpool and making lings after pool and ignoring your scout you can barely defend with cannons + 5-10 probes going into block on expo which put you at great disadvantage not minging for like 1 min with and he can just runin your base picking of probes delay your mining.
You can go forge nexus cannon if zerg is overpool 12 hatch then 2-4 lings + pump drones after
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On September 07 2009 16:12 AzureEye wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2009 16:04 fanatacist wrote:On September 07 2009 15:59 AzureEye wrote:
No need to bash him this much, its a frigging blog post
I understand your pain even though I quit Zerg long time ago. The reason why I quit Zerg was because Zerg rarely had any cheeses and always had to adapt according to your opponent, and if Z did have some, it was pretty much all-in unlike Terrans who can cheese and never get punished for it because most of their cheese is not all-in.
Your first example verses the Protoss player was kinda meaningless because it was your fault for playing a dumb map that allowed that kind of shit. (When I used to see Terrans who made Lost Temple on iccup, I would join, make fun of him for hosting the imba map, and just leave right when game started)
But I totally feel your pain of having to scout for that hidden proxy because Zerg cant proxy anything and the mere fact that you're wasting your scouting worker's time JUST to look for the non-existent proxy already creates a small disadvantage.
You just have to accept the fact that no human-made RTS game can be truly balanced. [Insert Artosis's Famous Balance Quote Here] Yes, Starcraft is a balanced piece of art but its not balanced enough (underpowered Z, overpowered T, sometimes)
Just change your race or just accept that Starcraft is the way it is and its way too late for them to tweak balance issues. But yeah, they really should have thought better than to give Toss/Terran ability to proxy, lift-off into your main type of cheese, transition from bio to mech to wraith air so easily kind of stuff
I'm blabbing on because I'm writing this at 4 am but yeah, don't play shitty maps and stick with another race. I love Zerg but I quit playing Z because I felt that Z was way too disadvantaged against some matchups (ZvT cough) I bolded everything that is wrong or stupid in your post. Needless to say my opinion of you is rather negative right now. -2/10 The fact that you bolded the first sentence "No need to bash him this much, its a frigging blog post" just shows your post is more worthless than mine And the fact that you rate a post too lol
God fanatacist. Yeah you are a smart guy, but in this thread you are being fucking retarded.
oooooo "9/10 for the syntax mistake" so sexy! oh my i am impressed.
Stop being a fuckshitass pompous douche. we are not all little kids begging for your approval "ooo fanatacist please rate my post!"
needless to say, my opinion of you is rather negative right now.
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overpool no gas 3 hat vs P and vs T just send out 2 drones, you have to anyway cause its a 2 player map and if he builds something just pool gas.
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If you arenot able to win against cheesy build it is only your fault.
Cheesy build is one of the most entertaining part of the game.
When yellow had been three time in a row bunker rushed by yellow should had cried?
I know it piss of but it is only a strategy gam..wake up
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12 hatch vs protoss on tau/heartbreak is really just asking for it. If I was playing protoss and intending to FE and play straight up, but then saw that you 12 hatched, I'd still go for the cannons.
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On September 07 2009 19:58 m4gdelen4 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2009 16:12 AzureEye wrote:On September 07 2009 16:04 fanatacist wrote:On September 07 2009 15:59 AzureEye wrote:
No need to bash him this much, its a frigging blog post
I understand your pain even though I quit Zerg long time ago. The reason why I quit Zerg was because Zerg rarely had any cheeses and always had to adapt according to your opponent, and if Z did have some, it was pretty much all-in unlike Terrans who can cheese and never get punished for it because most of their cheese is not all-in.
Your first example verses the Protoss player was kinda meaningless because it was your fault for playing a dumb map that allowed that kind of shit. (When I used to see Terrans who made Lost Temple on iccup, I would join, make fun of him for hosting the imba map, and just leave right when game started)
But I totally feel your pain of having to scout for that hidden proxy because Zerg cant proxy anything and the mere fact that you're wasting your scouting worker's time JUST to look for the non-existent proxy already creates a small disadvantage.
You just have to accept the fact that no human-made RTS game can be truly balanced. [Insert Artosis's Famous Balance Quote Here] Yes, Starcraft is a balanced piece of art but its not balanced enough (underpowered Z, overpowered T, sometimes)
Just change your race or just accept that Starcraft is the way it is and its way too late for them to tweak balance issues. But yeah, they really should have thought better than to give Toss/Terran ability to proxy, lift-off into your main type of cheese, transition from bio to mech to wraith air so easily kind of stuff
I'm blabbing on because I'm writing this at 4 am but yeah, don't play shitty maps and stick with another race. I love Zerg but I quit playing Z because I felt that Z was way too disadvantaged against some matchups (ZvT cough) I bolded everything that is wrong or stupid in your post. Needless to say my opinion of you is rather negative right now. -2/10 The fact that you bolded the first sentence "No need to bash him this much, its a frigging blog post" just shows your post is more worthless than mine And the fact that you rate a post too lol God fanatacist. Yeah you are a smart guy, but in this thread you are being fucking retarded. oooooo "9/10 for the syntax mistake" so sexy! oh my i am impressed. Stop being a fuckshitass pompous douche. we are not all little kids begging for your approval "ooo fanatacist please rate my post!" needless to say, my opinion of you is rather negative right now.
Someone's opinion of someone is negative? ON THE INTERNET? Alert all battlestations! This is unacceptable!
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On September 07 2009 15:38 frogmelter wrote:
LMAO
I feel you're pain
I'm a zerg player who almost always 12 hatches
One of the first things I did was get a friend who is a higher rank than I am cheese me over and over again until I could block them
Trust me, you need to learn how to block cheese and the only way you can do that is to practice against it
And when you see a cheese, don't get too worked up
I used to get super pissed whenever I saw a cheese and that fucked me up bad
You play MUCH better when you are calm and confident, and that will come from practice
end of thread?
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