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On September 11 2009 20:01 Nytefish wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2009 19:18 Boblion wrote:I hate when i play 10-0 guys. ESPECIALLY if they don't even bother to get to their real rank with this aka after. You can't even be happy to know that you have been raped by a B Korean  It is just another 10-0 D / D+ guy... and you will never know his real level. Well to go 10-0 you're playing mostly D rank players so it wouldn't be hard for someone who was high D+ or C-. If they stop so soon it's likely their real rank isn't much higher anyway and they just want nice stats.
10-0 early season could be any rank between C and A+
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If you're sick of cheese, then 9pool speedling if you're an aggressive type (and get only 6 lings? I don't play Z) or overpool for better econ
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On September 11 2009 23:52 Boblion wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2009 20:01 Nytefish wrote:On September 11 2009 19:18 Boblion wrote:I hate when i play 10-0 guys. ESPECIALLY if they don't even bother to get to their real rank with this aka after. You can't even be happy to know that you have been raped by a B Korean It is just another 10-0 D / D+ guy... and you will never know his real level. Well to go 10-0 you're playing mostly D rank players so it wouldn't be hard for someone who was high D+ or C-. If they stop so soon it's likely their real rank isn't much higher anyway and they just want nice stats. 10-0 early season could be any rank between D and A+
It's not like real D ranks don't play early season, and 10 games is such a small amount anyway.
But if you don't want to perceive it that way and just get frustrated I'm not going to stop you.
I just noticed the iccup site doesn't list people with 100% win ratios.
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On September 07 2009 15:18 Camlito wrote:That's because you played foreigners only.
you must've had the luck to face the worst players on the entire iccup then.. D+ and better players should have the proper micro to defend a 4 pool.
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This thread is so full of hate lol.
Funny arguments, though haha.
That wins it though:
On September 07 2009 16:04 fanatacist wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2009 15:59 AzureEye wrote:
No need to bash him this much, its a frigging blog post
I understand your pain even though I quit Zerg long time ago. The reason why I quit Zerg was because Zerg rarely had any cheeses and always had to adapt according to your opponent, and if Z did have some, it was pretty much all-in unlike Terrans who can cheese and never get punished for it because most of their cheese is not all-in.
Your first example verses the Protoss player was kinda meaningless because it was your fault for playing a dumb map that allowed that kind of shit. (When I used to see Terrans who made Lost Temple on iccup, I would join, make fun of him for hosting the imba map, and just leave right when game started)
But I totally feel your pain of having to scout for that hidden proxy because Zerg cant proxy anything and the mere fact that you're wasting your scouting worker's time JUST to look for the non-existent proxy already creates a small disadvantage.
You just have to accept the fact that no human-made RTS game can be truly balanced. [Insert Artosis's Famous Balance Quote Here] Yes, Starcraft is a balanced piece of art but its not balanced enough (underpowered Z, overpowered T, sometimes)
Just change your race or just accept that Starcraft is the way it is and its way too late for them to tweak balance issues. But yeah, they really should have thought better than to give Toss/Terran ability to proxy, lift-off into your main type of cheese, transition from bio to mech to wraith air so easily kind of stuff
I'm blabbing on because I'm writing this at 4 am but yeah, don't play shitty maps and stick with another race. I love Zerg but I quit playing Z because I felt that Z was way too disadvantaged against some matchups (ZvT cough) I bolded everything that is wrong or stupid in your post. Needless to say my opinion of you is rather negative right now. -2/10
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LOL hardly. i play to get better, not to win- like some people. I can tell you that with out a shadow of a doubt in a straight up game, my winrate is much much higher than if i have to deal with cheese. It's not unorthodox, and it's not aggressive. It is cheese. It is people playing to win, not to get better- and i hate it. An aggressive strat is 2 gate, sparks, 2 hatch muta. Don't try and tell me the line between cheese and aggression.
change the way i think? no i don't think so. The way the kids on the B train train in korea, it's not with cheese. in fact- if you are cheesing during a game while practicing you are thrown out of the house. Because guess what? cheese doesn't make you any better at the game. Period.
You play terran? then you wouldn't understand.
I totally agree. At low levels playing to improve is much more important than playing to win.
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The best thing to do is to watch replays of yourself with a knowledgeable friend and have them point out all your mistakes and give you tips. Then watch replays of good people and see how their play differs from yours and see why they win which will make you see why you lose.
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Is a Zerg blogging about how hard it is to play against cheese on HBR?
LOL
+ Show Spoiler +don't say that Terrans don't know how you feel, dickbutt
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On September 12 2009 10:28 Nytefish wrote:Show nested quote +On September 11 2009 23:52 Boblion wrote:On September 11 2009 20:01 Nytefish wrote:On September 11 2009 19:18 Boblion wrote:I hate when i play 10-0 guys. ESPECIALLY if they don't even bother to get to their real rank with this aka after. You can't even be happy to know that you have been raped by a B Korean It is just another 10-0 D / D+ guy... and you will never know his real level. Well to go 10-0 you're playing mostly D rank players so it wouldn't be hard for someone who was high D+ or C-. If they stop so soon it's likely their real rank isn't much higher anyway and they just want nice stats. 10-0 early season could be any rank between D and A+ It's not like real D ranks don't play early season, and 10 games is such a small amount anyway. But if you don't want to perceive it that way and just get frustrated I'm not going to stop you. I just noticed the iccup site doesn't list people with 100% win ratios.
The odds for a D player to get 10-0 early season are close to 0.
That's why someone getting this kind of record is usually at least C.
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Even if it's 1% for an individual you have hundreds of D rank players.
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On September 14 2009 06:38 Nytefish wrote:
Even if it's 1% for an individual you have hundreds of D rank players.
It is less than 1% rofl.
Ok i'm like a D+ toss.
Probability to beat me. I would say ~ 20% for a D player.
Probability to give a 7 min quick rape as T i would say 1% for a D player.
And i'm not even talking about the 9 others players ( probably a some D/D+/C- and maybe higher ).
1% x 50%^9 ( let's say they are all D which i HIGHLY doubt rofl ) ~ 0
Probability of you trolling or being an idiot = 99,9%
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EPT
