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On August 31 2009 03:15 fanatacist wrote:
I love how you bitch about MacBook and then use your iPhone to continue browsing the internets, you're such an Apple whore, suck on Jobs' infantile inadequate penis some more and then maybe when it runs dry of shitty products you will realize your mistake and switch to PC.
In other news, I hope this experience has taught you something: life sucks, and it sucks more when you rely on Apple. Good luck with your classes and "computer."
Hahahahaha.
Everytime I see you post, I get a little hard.
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It'smy sisters iPhone. She lost it at one point and bought another iPhone. Since she doesn't need it anymore she let me use it because she wanted to be in touch.
F u fana
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On August 31 2009 02:29 Aegraen wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 02:24 MacWorld wrote:On August 31 2009 01:50 OreoBoi wrote:On August 31 2009 01:30 MacWorld wrote:
Even nuclear plants and spaceships fail. Your only problem (as the warranty, for free, gives you a new harddrive) is that you didn´t back up your files. You are the one who failed here. On August 31 2009 01:50 OreoBoi wrote:Your first statement makes no sense. One nuclear power plant has ever failed and that was because they were running tests without the safety features. Nuclear power plants will never fail as long as the people operating it are smart enough to watch the readings. There is a different between what you described, which is an error, and a mechanical design failure. In the OP's case, without any indication or external forces that he knows about, his hard drive crashed. A nuclear power plant fails if someone does not pay attention to the warnings. Actually there have been nomerous cases where nuclear plants in one way or others have failed, eventhough it seldom leads up to disasters like Tjernobyl. Despite high security and rigorous safety measures things will fail. But in case you missed the whole point - things can fail eventhough you try to prevent them from not doing so. I bet harddrives more expensive than the ones in Apple´s computers have failed before. On August 31 2009 01:50 OreoBoi wrote:How does the giving him a new harddrive help at all? All the work I have on my computer is worth incredibly more than what the harddrive is worth. Giving me a new harddrive that may crash again is worthless.. Yeah, and that´s why you copy your files to an external harddrive or even better to a "nonphysical" harddrive over the internet. Harddrives may crash, so may rammemories, motherboards, fans, etcetera - so I guess you are better off not working with computers at all. A new harddrive would probably allow him to continue to work. But please, link to a harddrive (non-ssd) that has never crashed. If he had made a time machine backup he would have a clone of his old harddrive on his new harddrive in under 30 minutes. That´s a built in feature. And also, if I knew that I had worked my ass off for a long time and finally finalising that work - I would for sure make at least one backup. And I would probably do it more than once along the road. Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 01:50 OreoBoi wrote:How did he fail? He assume a product would work? He assumed with Mac bashing PC in all its ads that Mac was actually better? He thinks that paying by paying 3 times the amount that he would pay on a similar machine, he should get something with good quality? He said that he finished some of the stuff the day and the day before, not everyone backs up everyday. Oh, maybe you Mac people do because you are afraid of losing your work everyday because of your computer. He failed because he didn´t back up his files. Although he knew how important it was, not losing them. He would probably be equally angry if the computer was running windows or unix-based systems too. And paying "three times the amount" is just bullshit. Or you might want to show me where I can buy a portable PC with the same specifics as the MacBook pro 13" - http://store.apple.com/us/configure/MB990LL/A?mco=Nzk2MDgzNA for 1/3 the price. Mac's are extremely overrated and extremely expensive. They rely on hipsters to be willing to pay that much for the "flavor of the month". You're buying the name as much as you are buying the product. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834115592Blows that away and is 500$ cheaper.
this isn't true. they're not extremely overrated, nor are they extremely expensive. i don't own a mac, but given the choice i don't see a problem with buying one and am considering it for my next laptop. your link is not a good comparison at all, for many reasons .. not the least of which is you attempting to equate a 13" with a 15.6"
also PanN, since my name isn't macworld, perhaps we can have an enlightening argument about the viability of mac lappys 
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On August 31 2009 03:19 PanN wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2009 03:15 fanatacist wrote:
I love how you bitch about MacBook and then use your iPhone to continue browsing the internets, you're such an Apple whore, suck on Jobs' infantile inadequate penis some more and then maybe when it runs dry of shitty products you will realize your mistake and switch to PC.
In other news, I hope this experience has taught you something: life sucks, and it sucks more when you rely on Apple. Good luck with your classes and "computer."
Hahahahaha. Everytime I see you post, I get a little hard.
http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=100897
~FragKrag: <3
Seriously though, good luck and learn from your mistakes.
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On August 31 2009 02:04 Jibba wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2009 21:43 Aegraen wrote:On August 30 2009 17:47 ghermination wrote:On August 30 2009 17:41 v[1.8]c wrote:On August 30 2009 17:19 Jibba wrote:On August 30 2009 16:55 superjoppe wrote:
Hitachi DOES have as good reputation as other manufactors. And 5400rpm is kind of obvious to reduce heat and battery drain. They actually don't. Hitachi bought out the IBM storage division, responsible for the worst hard drive ever created (Deskstar/Deathstar.) HDs are definitely hit or miss though, but Hitachi isn't generally considered a top 3 manufacturer. The Deathstar series were great excellent hard drives but for one major flaw. They were very susceptible to overheating and will die more often than their counterparts. With that said, deskstars that were kept at cool temperatures work flawlessly and just as well as other manufacturer drives. Hitachi isnt top 3? Please give me a list of your top 3 manufacturers for HDDs. Seagate Western Digital Those are the top 2. Hitachi would be #3 only because there are only 3 major companies, but Hitachi drives are TERRIBLE, just a single look at the reviews on newegg will show you that. If you can afford it buy a SSD. Intel's X-25M and OCZ's Vertex are by far the best and just about any computer guru will tell you, upgrading to a SSD is the best upgrade you can do for your computer. SSD are kind of expensive right now, but you can get one for around 220 or so for a ~80Gig. I wouldn't even bother buying an antiquated HDD unless you can't afford a SSD. SSDs have a shorter lifespan than regular hard drives because they're not designed for constant I/O. Show nested quote +On August 30 2009 17:41 v[1.8]c wrote:
Please give me a list of your top 3 manufacturers for HDDs. WD, Seagate, Samsung. Newegg ratings mean nothing.
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/common_drives.html
and for the high-ends
http://www.harddrivebenchmark.net/high_end_drives.html
So is there a particular reasoning for Samsung beating over Hitachi drives? I'm not a big fan of Hitachi but bashing their products with disregard to actual facts and numbers seems ignorant. Also why is the whole blog turned into everyone flaming Apple? The harddrive is what failed here and that's an unfortunate incident but how is Apple at fault over this? They employed a drive from a known manufacturer and it failed, so now everyone is flaming Apple? Wheres the logic in this?
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That's just using Passmark, which is as meaningless as any other synthetic testing. Storagereviews and a few other places have nice hard drive round ups for things like speed, power, noise, etc.
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On August 31 2009 05:41 Jibba wrote:
That's just using Passmark, which is as meaningless as any other synthetic testing. Storagereviews and a few other places have nice hard drive round ups for things like speed, power, noise, etc.
http://www.storagereview.com/Testbed4Compare.sr
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Theres 1 samsung drive listed in the top 10 and 1 hitachi listed in the top 3, if I go as far as top 30 that gives me 2 Hitachi drives and still 1 Samsung drive.
If you take a closer look, you will even notice that the website is outdated, with all the drives dating back as far (or as recent) as 2007. Also some of the software used for testing are also extremely outdated (SR Office Drivemark 2002?????)
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I'll concede that I didn't check my own reference well enough, but it's still completely laughable that this is your point of contention. WD and Seagate generally outclass Hitachi in all sectors, and Samsung is the best at energy efficient drives and high capacity. Between those three, I would never buy a Hitachi drive.
I love that you started this by saying "Deskstars were excellent, EXCEPT THAT THEY FAILED ALL THE TIME."
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On August 31 2009 06:13 Jibba wrote:
I'll concede that I didn't check my own reference well enough, but it's still completely laughable that this is your point of contention. WD and Seagate generally outclass Hitachi in all sectors, and Samsung is the best at energy efficient drives and high capacity. Between those three, I would never buy a Hitachi drive.
I love that you started this by saying "Deskstars were excellent, EXCEPT THAT THEY FAILED ALL THE TIME."
I stated that Deskstars only downpoint was that they were extremely susceptible to heat, and if you keep them cool then they dont fail anymore than other models from different manufacturers. What your personal bias for HDD manufacturers is none of my business and I have not stated anything regarded Hitachi vs WD and Seagate. Its very true that Seagate and WD drives generally out perform Hitachi in every front. However Samsung drives are generally not considered high quality or even stable, the only thing they really have over Hitachi drives is that they weren't in the HDD business long enough and didn't have the whole "omg deathstars" thing on them. (Seagate suffered a similar disaster with their 7200.11 series, the 500, 1TB and 1.5TB would brick left and right due to bad drivers, however they redeemed themselves with the 7200.12 series) Modern Hitachi drives are very good and even the old Deathstars when maintained properly will last very long. Those "generic" and "useless" stats however did state the Hitachi drives as being faster than Samsungs. If you really want energy efficiency then go for the Seagates since the ST3 series are more power efficient than any other model currently out there. Samsung just does'nt have anything over the top 3 brands (with 3rd being Hitachi, believe it or not they're great for lowcost storage drives due to their speed and cost/size) and generally not recommended for anything really.
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Tough break Frag. That is what happens when you get a marked up trend whore piece of technology though.
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