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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 18 2009 23:33 GMT
#21
On August 19 2009 06:21 Jonoman92 wrote:
You're RAM is currently $90 if I'm understanding the conversion correctly? That sounds really expensive even if stuff is more expensive in Europe. I don't know what site you are shopping on since I use newegg which is US only but I'd advise shopping around for cheaper RAM because I know in the US you can get decent 2x2GB of RAM for under $40 pretty easily.

I have an Antec 300 case (not the gamer kind but I figure it's similar) and it is pretty good. Also, dunno how much you plan on storing but 160GB isn't too big for a main HD. For $20 you could get a 500GB and not have to sweat space, but if you don't plan on storing any media like music/movies I guess it isn't needed.


Its DDR3 and I can't find any cheaper 2x2GB kits This kit retails for $85 on newegg so I guess $5 markup isn't that bad considering we have 22% "sales tax"
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 18 2009 23:46 GMT
#22
I think i'm going to go with the a lower frequency - 1066 Hz, The Patriot memory seems to have problems :/


240 zl Kingston 4GB(2*2GB)DDR3 1066MHz CL7 KVR1066D3N7K2/4G
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
August 19 2009 06:52 GMT
#23
Oh I guess the price increase from DDR2 800MHz to DDR3 1333MHz/1066MHz is pretty significant so nvm.
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-19 12:16:26
August 19 2009 12:16 GMT
#24
Any further advice? t,t
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haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 19 2009 12:35 GMT
#25
I thought you only achieve the 1066/1333 frequency when you overclock?

Default Kingston will often default to 800.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 19 2009 12:36 GMT
#26
Not that it matters since you are going with DDR3.

I personally think that you've being ripped off on the price. Surely you can get it cheaper.
Rillanon.au
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 19 2009 12:37 GMT
#27
Pick a screen which can pivot. (rotation).

For coders, depth is more important than width.

The Seagate harddrive is pretty crap to be honest. I know you are shopping for cheap but seriously spend a bit more and get something better.
Rillanon.au
Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 19 2009 12:54 GMT
#28
So give us the final config that you've put together so far.
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 19 2009 13:23 GMT
#29
300 zl Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
375 zl AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE
311 zl ASUS PCI-E GeForce 9600GT 512MB DDR3 256bit EN9600GT/HTDI/512M/A
240 zl Kingston 4GB(2*2GB)DDR3 1066MHz CL7 KVR1066D3N7K2/4G
239 zl Antec Gamer Three Hundred B/Z
144 zl Seagate 160GB 7200rpm 8MB ST3160318AS
234 zl Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 460W PFC
100 zl Samsung SH-S223F Black


I was told to get the 7200.12 series of Seagate? Why is that a crap drive? explain?
Default Hz is 1066
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 19 2009 13:36 GMT
#30
My mobo supports:
DDR3-1333 (PC3-10600)
DDR3-1066 (PC3-8500)

And reading up you need to overclock to 1333 and 1600, 1066 should be detected w/o a problem.
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 19 2009 13:39 GMT
#31
I can't find cheaper 2GB DDR3 sticks :/
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Sadistx
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Zimbabwe5568 Posts
August 19 2009 14:42 GMT
#32
I was told to get the 7200.12 series of Seagate? Why is that a crap drive? explain?

Because right now the cheapest cost/gigabyte of storage is at about 750-1000 GB size of hard drives.
In other words for something like a 30% cost increase you could potentially have 100% + of storage increase.
You may think that you dont need 1 TB right now, but it's always good to have spare space than to run out. Also 1TB drives have higher density platters, which result in higher transfer speeds.
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-19 15:03:59
August 19 2009 14:59 GMT
#33
In that case, What kind of transfer rate/cache should I be looking for? What companies are reliable ie I won't have to worry about my disk at all for 3-4 years?

How do the other components look?
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yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 19 2009 22:35 GMT
#34
Latest Build:

300 zl Gigabyte GA-MA770T-UD3P
375 zl AMD Phenom II X2 550 BE
311 zl ASUS PCI-E GeForce 9600GT 512MB DDR3 256bit EN9600GT/HTDI/512M/A
240 zl Kingston 4GB(2*2GB)DDR3 1066MHz CL7 KVR1066D3N7K2/4G
239 zl Antec Gamer Three Hundred B/Z
199 zl Seagate 500 GB Barracuda 7200.12 (16MB, Serial ATA II) ST3500418AS
234 zl Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 460W PFC
100 zl Samsung SH-S223F Black

= 1998 zl~
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Jonoman92
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
United States9104 Posts
August 19 2009 23:07 GMT
#35
Well If you have a whole extra 1000zl left over still you could upgrade your 9600GT to a Radeon4870 or GTX260/280. For probably an extra 300-400zl. If you do that you might want a 550W Power Supply though but I'm not 100% certain if that'd be needed or not but cost wise it would be a minor increase.
yenta
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Poland1142 Posts
August 19 2009 23:15 GMT
#36
On August 20 2009 08:07 Jonoman92 wrote:
Well If you have a whole extra 1000zl left over still you could upgrade your 9600GT to a Radeon4870 or GTX260/280. For probably an extra 300-400zl. If you do that you might want a 550W Power Supply though but I'm not 100% certain if that'd be needed or not but cost wise it would be a minor increase.


Radeon + Linux = yay I have a crazy video card but no drivers!
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ghermination
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States2851 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-20 07:44:54
August 20 2009 06:54 GMT
#37
Here is my under 1000 USD build, which is far superior to the OP:

Case/Power Supply: XCLIO Godspeed Two Advanced + XCLIO Goodpower 500w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.233818
$74.98

CPU/Motherboard: Core 2 Duo E8400 @3.0ghz + Gigabyte GA-X48-DQ6
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboDealDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.241196
$302.98

CPU Fan/Heatsink: Xigmatek Dark Knight 120mm
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835233029
$44.98

Hard Drive: Seagate Barracuda 1TB 7200RPM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148433
$89.99

Memory: A-Data 4gb (2x2gb) DDR2-800
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820211188
$46.99

Video Card: GTX 260 1GB
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814150398
$159.98

Computer Components: $704.91

Monitors: 2x Hanns-G HW-191ApB Black 19"
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824254023
$229.98

Total Cost: $949.90

Edit: Changed to an nvidia card, total cost is $949.90 now.
U Gotta Skate.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-20 07:24:16
August 20 2009 07:18 GMT
#38
Are you using Linux? stick with Nvidia (even if they suck but they suck less than ATI).

The post above me is what I've got (different mobo and graphic card) and it works flawlessly under Linux (Ubuntu, heavily customized). E8400 is a good performer at a good price. But your AMD setup is great for future upgrade paths. Phenom II 770 is better than E8400.

I would seriously advise getting a dedicated sound card for Linux. My onboard card did not do software mixing. If you have any trouble, just get a XFI.
Rillanon.au
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-08-20 07:36:18
August 20 2009 07:22 GMT
#39
On August 19 2009 23:59 yenta wrote:
In that case, What kind of transfer rate/cache should I be looking for? What companies are reliable ie I won't have to worry about my disk at all for 3-4 years?

How do the other components look?

i dont know about the 500gb 7200.12 but the 1tb is a good drive. it performs nearly as well as the 10krpm wd raptor in real world apps in the benches i've seen.

also since you are getting a 550 consider the 720 which is a triple core and virtually the same otherwise except for clock speed. it's about $20 mroe which is a pretty decent price to pay for an extra core .

Phenom II 770 is better than E8400.

that's not necessarily true. if the software isnt optimized for more than two core the e8400 will run with (often beats) high end quads. though for gaming the 720 is the new bargain chip i guess since most games only utilize up to 3 cores and the phenom ii architecture matches the i7s in gaming performance.
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 20 2009 09:38 GMT
#40
and with luck you can unlock the fourth core!
Rillanon.au
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