Such a tough call. Parting can't win with mostly zealots there, easy to out micro with scvs to buffer and rauders to kite in a Terran base w Reinforcements coming out. But parting still the fav to win the game at that point.

RenSC2

United States1094 Posts

April 10 2012 17:01 GMT

I'm generally okay with either decision. Without having the replay in front of me, it's tough to say exactly what the game state was. Parting clearly had an advantage and if he plays it right, he'll get the win. However, we've seen many players overextend in that sort of situation and lose the game. One round of well-microed MKP units could have potentially wiped an overextended army and turned the game back in MKP's favor.

It just stinks that MKP was almost eliminated, but then got the re-game and was able to sweep the rest so that decision to re-game ended up being so critical.

dnld12

United States324 Posts

April 10 2012 17:09 GMT

Parting clearly was pushing the main and killing production structure. The game could have dragged on but parting was making another base.

TBone-

United States2309 Posts

April 10 2012 17:12 GMT

I think Partning should of won. But it was such a hard decision I'm not to angry about it. I'm more frustrated at blizzard for still not implementing one of the many solutions presented to them that would solve this.

JuicyNutsack

United States34 Posts

April 10 2012 17:19 GMT

agreed, another base coming up and camping 3 barracks with reinforcements on the way. the game would have gone on for another 5-10 minutes maybe, but it would have DEFINITELY been parting's game to lose

-JoKeR-

Canada387 Posts

April 10 2012 17:27 GMT

I am just curious what the Gom officials saw that justified a rematch because it did look like parting won that game after that engagement.

HorsemasterK

United States606 Posts

April 10 2012 17:34 GMT

Parting wins that 7/10 times, but you can't say FOR SURE that we was going to win. Regame was correct, but sad situtation.

Amestir

Netherlands2126 Posts

April 10 2012 17:38 GMT

Not voting, I think the best option would be to make it a Bo3 with Parting starting 1 - 0.

PixelNite

France1008 Posts

April 10 2012 17:40 GMT

I hope Gerrad will not resign as a prime coach because of this. You know, Korean pride etc... Maybe one of the hardest decisions to take as a referee so I am okay with this.

Caltu

60 Posts

April 10 2012 17:45 GMT

#10

Re game hands down in my opinion.
You cannot call a game right there, PartinG may have turned back and lost later, MKP held at ramp, PartinG stormed own units. There is no way you could call, we've seen people come back from worse.
It may have been hard to call but it was the right one

cTrFray

Sweden13 Posts

April 10 2012 18:04 GMT

#11

youre all fucking retarded parting won and if the juges wouldent have been as retarded as you ST whod had won the finals!

00Visor

4337 Posts

April 10 2012 18:18 GMT

#12

relevant: (I didnt do this)
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Arafel

United States10 Posts

April 10 2012 18:22 GMT

#13

MKP lost that match, if he wasn't such a fan favorite and on top of the game right now they would have decided against him. Yes it was "impossible" to say who wins for certain, but MKP loses that match 99/100 times end of story.

Nuithari

Belgium737 Posts

April 10 2012 18:22 GMT

#14

MKP losing wouldn't have meant ST winning per se. MKP is only 1 of the 3 hard-hitters.

Anyway, I believe the regame is justified. The fresh warp-in was at PartinG's main (so he didn't use the Warp prism). By the time those reinforcements got to the front, if he even decided to send them there, MKP's new cycle would've pushed back. And the game would've gone on for a bit longer. A lot of things can happen in 5 minutes.

MKP was in a tough spot for sure, but a comeback, although difficult, was possible. If there's a chance however small it is, it's a regame imho.

ZerphyR

Slovenia275 Posts

April 10 2012 18:29 GMT

#15

MKP's production was about to pop in a matter of seconds, and he can beat the zealots w 8 marauders and 16 marines more. Als he had a better economy so it was still anyones game :D

cTrFray

Sweden13 Posts

April 10 2012 18:30 GMT

#16

Okay for all prime fanboys this would have been the situation if parting would have gotten the win. ST whod have been up 3-1
primes best player would have been out. Only player left to choose from was creator or ghostking those two players had the task to not only kill parting who would have anyways prob just all killed prime after the winn over mkp but let say creator took out parting then ST just whood had sniped with bomber or curius or squirtle all three of them big favoirts to kill both creator and ghostking any one dissagring with me is just a fucking prime mkp fanboy who is shit and dont know anything about how starcraft team leauges works!!"!!!

cTrFray

Sweden13 Posts

April 10 2012 18:32 GMT

#17

WOW THESE PRIME FANBOYS ARE FUCKING RETARDED BUT THE SAD THING IS IT SEEMS NOT ONLY THE SHITTY PLAYERS IS LIKE THIS BUT THE FUCKING CASTERS AND JUGES TO WHAT A FUCKING JOKE IF THIS WOULD HAD HAPPEND ANY OTHER TEAM IT WOULD HAVE BEEN ANOTHER STORRY

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ZerphyR

Slovenia275 Posts

April 10 2012 18:40 GMT

#18

If Parting was so dominating, in the game he would just beat MKP in the next game.
So the regame was the right choise.

Boxihobo

Hungary37 Posts

April 10 2012 18:40 GMT

#19

what is interesting to me in a situation like this is a player like marineking who relies heavily on his micro can be in disadvantage since a possible "micro" advantage is not(?) measurable whereas when we look at the raw numbers of units one can easily say that player Y is in a clear advantage so its a really hard decision.However comapring the players micro capabilites is kind of like saying player one has a 60% PvT winrate so maybe he can still win it which is stupid.

pPingu

Switzerland2892 Posts

April 10 2012 18:43 GMT

#20

Still waiting for a pro to say that parting wouldn't have won this

On April 11 2012 03:29 ZerphyR wrote:
MKP's production was about to pop in a matter of seconds, and he can beat the zealots w 8 marauders and 16 marines more. Als he had a better economy so it was still anyones game :D

According to this screenshot http://i.imgur.com/IuHuA.jpg, mkp has 21 supply in reprod, and just enough money to make 5 more marauders, still not enough to reach parting supply. You assume that parting will suicide his whole army and not produce anything, so mkp will be able to defend

And no, mkp didn't have the better economy, in fact parting had it http://i.imgur.com/jugZC.jpg

Mkp had no advantage over parting, parting had the better economy, the better army, he still had hts alive while mkp had no more tech units, and they had about the same in upgrades (something like 3/3 and 3/1(2)/3 iirc)