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Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
On December 07 2022 04:00 RvB wrote: It's like they want to trick the goalkeeper to shoot it in instead of taking a proper penalty. Can't just be the pressure since in previous world cups penalty's weren't this poor. Gimme some old school Ronald Koeman penalties any day. | ||
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9845 Posts
On December 06 2022 22:35 Jockmcplop wrote: I'm looking forward to Portugal Switzerland today. I think its going to be really tough on Portugal. I'm predicting 1-1 and penalties. Of course I never really thought this. | ||
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Deleted User 173346
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Dan HH
Romania9206 Posts
On December 07 2022 05:17 Jockmcplop wrote: Of course I never really thought this. If it makes you feel any better, I thought the same | ||
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zev318
Canada4306 Posts
On December 07 2022 05:19 plasmidghost wrote: Inshallah Ronaldo does not play another game for Portugal wont happen, he'll come on as a sub at some point, maybe not this particular match. | ||
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andrewlt
United States7702 Posts
On December 07 2022 04:00 RvB wrote: It's like they want to trick the goalkeeper to shoot it in instead of taking a proper penalty. Can't just be the pressure since in previous world cups penalty's weren't this poor. Yah, it got featured here in the US so I'm sure you guys have noticed it. TLDR version - easier to save penalties since most of them have been aimed low https://www.espn.com/soccer/fifa-world-cup/story/4821671/what-world-cup-penalties-tell-us-about-shootouts-goalkeepers Swiss defense is looking like Swiss cheese. | ||
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
- A tired team out of group stage with a shallow talent pool will have a very hard time against a team coming out of group stage fresh. - Fernando Santos showed he can get a team to play attacking football. Credit to him in dropping Ronaldo and fielding a team ready to put pressure and play with high pace. - Portugal is better without Ronaldo, goes without saying really, - By focusing on Ronaldo and FSantos people really have underestimated how stacked the Portuguese team is. Just compare each squad player by player, including the bench. Portugal is several levels above Switzerland, and yet a lot of experts were saying this was 50/50. - Benfica will sell two players for 100M+ this summer lol (Ramos and Enzo Fernandes). | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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Vinekh
131 Posts
Let's not forget that we are talking about the greatest player in Portuguese history and arguably Europe as well. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
On December 07 2022 06:08 Faruko wrote: The difference between both teams is nowhere near a 6-1, best portugal match vs worth switzerland match We beat them 4-0 in the summer in the nations league. We sub in one of the best players in Serie A, they sub in Seferovic who's an extremely average player and past it. | ||
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Liquid`Drone
Norway28796 Posts
On December 07 2022 06:13 warding wrote: We beat them 4-0 in the summer in the nations league. We sub in one of the best players in Serie A, they sub in Seferovic who's an extremely average player and past it. I mean everybody agreed that Portugal, player for player, was a vastly superior side. But if you look at how both teams performed in the group stage, or how the two teams performed in the world cup qualifier (Portugal ended behind Serbia, Switzerland won their group ahead of Italy), or how the two teams performed in the EC2020 (Portugal lost to Belgium in the Ro16, Switzerland knocked out France and then lost to Spain, both on penalty shootouts), or - indeed, the nations league (where yes, Portugal won one game 4-0, but they lost the other 0-1, and they ended with 10 points to Switzerland's 9 points), then expecting this to be a close game seems perfectly reasonable.. Switzerland had, for many years now, looked like a greater sum than its parts, while Portugal had, for many years now, generally looked the opposite. | ||
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
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Pandemona
Charlie Sheens House51493 Posts
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sharkie
Austria18635 Posts
On December 07 2022 06:52 warding wrote: And I agree that assumption was perfectly reasonable. My point is that that assumption depended on the team staying centered on CR and F Santos playing the usual way. Take those two things away and you get this result. No, you get this result if you score with ever chance you got. Usually it doesnt happen in football and when it does everyone goes bonkers | ||
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Faruko
Chile34173 Posts
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warding
Portugal2395 Posts
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Stratos_speAr
United States6959 Posts
Everyone is going to lose their mind about individual performances. Both Brazil and Portugal's RO16 performances were far above their performance level so far, yet everyone is swearing by these two teams. The reality is that basically no one remaining in the tournament has been seriously tested except for Morocco. They've all dropped points, they've all had uninspiring looking games, and The Netherlands, Argentina, France, England, Brazil, and Croatia all faced the very real prospect of going down by 1+ goals early in their games. -Brazil looked "meh" against Switzerland and lost to a Cameroon side that went down to 10 men. -Croatia has looked like...Croatia. -Argentina lost to Saudi Arabia and always look like they need to be bailed out by Messi. -The Netherlands just look uninspired and none of their underlying statistics look good. -England was outplayed by the U.S. -France rotated and promptly lost to Tunisia while also looking very vulnerable against a questionable Poland side. -Portugal lost to South Korea. No one is looking unbeatable right now and I think that this will be a really exciting RO8. I think Croatia is by far the weakest team but they may have the defensive organization to push Brazil. | ||
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RKC
2848 Posts
Germany (after winning WC in 2014): Knocked out at group stage in WC 2018 and WC 2022 Netherlands (after finishing runners-up in WC 2010 and 3rd place in WC 2014): Did not qualify for WC 2018 Italy (after winning WC 2006): Knocked out at group stage in WC 2010 and 2014 and did not qualify for WC 2018 and 2022 France (after winning WC 1998): Knocked out at group stage in WC 2002, finished runners-up in 2006, knocked out at group stage in WC 2010) Spain (after winning WC 2010): Knocked out at group stage in WC 2014 and RO16 in WC 2018 and WC 2022 Only Argentina and Brazil have maintained better consistency in the modern era. And even they get a lot of flak from early eliminations. Arguably Uruguay has fared reasonably well in maintaining their level (group stage - QF). Out of all former champions, only Italy is in crisis mode. Next is Germany. Spain is underperforming in the last 5 years but at least they haven't fell off the cliff unlike others. | ||
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