FIFA World Cup 2022 - Knockout Stage - Page 30

On December 01 2022 05:04 Liquid`Drone wrote:


Whats that supposed to mean, how? Denmark also participated in the 2018 wc, in an almost identical group: France, Peru and Australia. They beat Peru and drew the other two games and advanced in second place. Then they lost in a penalty shootout against Croatia, who finished in second place.

On December 01 2022 12:47 RKC wrote:


Yes, this is what I've been thinking too. The problem is not VAR, but out-dated rules that were likely formulated in a way that compensates for human error.

Minor fouls within penalty box - Introduce indirect free kicks within the box or direct free kicks just outside the box (rather than penalty kick).

Offside - Modify the rule to be only triggered if attacker's entire body is pass the defender. Personally, I feel the whole notion of offside rather anti-football. Why should the field of play be reduced simply by player's positioning? It's ridiculous that an entire area of the pitch between defenders and keeper become a 'no fly zone'. I understand the rule is meant to prevent attackers simply 'camping' at spots high up the field - this can be prevented by the 'entire body' modicafion (but I still don't think this is necessary). A lot of cool goals from defensive splitting passes have been denied simply because the attacker was an inch or two ahead of the defender in this WC (and perhaps elsewhere where VAR is used). Even as someone who plays football as a holding midfielder and defender (semi-professionally many years ago), I feel the offside rule makes for lazy defending. The rule allows slow, ponderous, lesser skilled defenders from neutralising superior technically skilled attackers. Yes, I understand there's a certain skill involved in coordinating defensive lines (tactics and teamwork), but defenders' skill should ideally be focused more on marking attackers rather than creating artificial 'no fly zones' to render marking unnecessary. Positional play should be about cutting off passing lines to forward attackers rather than simply 'removing' an attacker out of play.

On December 01 2022 17:48 Liquid`Drone wrote:


But they performed well in the 2018 world cup, playing draws against both the team that ended #1 and the team that ended #2, and they advanced from a group that looked very similar to this one.

Even I who considered them a potential dark horse did not think they were likely to go particularly far - I thought they'd qualify from their group in second place and then most likely lose to Argentina in the ro16, but with a chance at creating an upset. That'd be an expected performance from them. Them getting 1 point from this group is shocking. It's not like Australia is a bigger football nation than Denmark is.

On December 01 2022 18:09 WombaT wrote:

If we’re going off VAR, body position and momentum need to be taken into account. Offside has gone from a judgement of the eyes, to machine precision, I’d introduce another element of eyes, namely letting refs make judgement calls from the images.

It’s not an exact science but it’s bogus when say, an attacker can be on the half turn, or even back-to-goal but is offside because of where their hand/shoulder is. Never mind that their momentum is the completely opposite direction of where they’re attacking into.

I like offside as a general rule. Gives slow, intelligent players a way to balance things out. Without it you’d either have teams sitting incredibly deep, or balls over the top to flying machines being incredibly hard. Football prospers because it caters for all sorts of size profiles and athletic capacities, and the offside rule plays its part in that.

I’d also like to see fouls tied to consequences, and more yellows/reds given without penalties or free kicks necessarily.

Case in point Argentina’s penalty. How heavy the contact was/wasn’t notwithstanding, Messi had made his effort on goal already. The ball was 15 foot in the air about to exit the field of play, it was physically impossible for anyone to actually collect that ball.

In a similar vein, happens all the time where an attacker can be close to the lines of play, hit a ball past a defend which is obviously going to go 20 metres away and be impossible to collect, only to win a penalty etc when they run into the defender/get tripped and fouled.

In such instances I’d by all means book/send off a player depending how severe cynical the foul is, but not necessarily give a penalty. If your last action is to have kicked a ball that is certainly going to be irretrievable, to me that play has already concluded.

It’s long felt off to me, but I think it’s only with VAR that one can actually reasonably assess (some) bits of play in that way

On December 01 2022 19:02 Harris1st wrote:


If we are going to redefine rules I would like a rule to send someone off for 5mins or sth.
First yellow -> booked. Second yellow -> double booked and 5mins off. Third yellow -> red. You are out.
Power play in 11 vs 11 don't have the same impact as in 5v5 like in hockey or handball. But it leaves a certain hole in team which needs to be plugged making it greater tactical effort.
Also with a double yellow the Refs are free to punish smaller fouls/ time play/ mouthing off and stuff like that

On December 01 2022 19:58 Harris1st wrote:
I'm a bit scared for today. I hope Spain doesn't do the Frenchie and field their worst 11 against Japan.

CRO vs BEL should be a good game. Hope they both show some attacking football

On December 01 2022 21:00 sharkie wrote:


In football there is time wasting done so easily that 5min is nothing