I've communicated quite a lot with GH over pms. Sometimes he has asked too much while I have been too busy to deal with it, and then I've ignored them. I understand that it can be tiresome to deal with. But I've never experienced him as rude, at all. Also could point to multiple examples of him admitting some fault. I also think it's generally a good principle to not share private conversations with the public - but that has to be coupled with a principle of not mentioning some tidbit of a pm.
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I've communicated quite a lot with GH over pms. Sometimes he has asked too much while I have been too busy to deal with it, and then I've ignored them. I understand that it can be tiresome to deal with. But I've never experienced him as rude, at all. Also could point to multiple examples of him admitting some fault. I also think it's generally a good principle to not share private conversations with the public - but that has to be coupled with a principle of not mentioning some tidbit of a pm. | ||
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On September 27 2019 16:43 Acrofales wrote: I mostly agree with this. They are both holding grudge upon grudge and are totally tunneled on one another. I also read more of JimmyC's posts as barbed then GH, but it doesn't even matter anymore, I skip pages if the thread where it's then bickering. Isn't limited to US pol thread either. I reported some random post in the South American politics thread asking for that whole thread to be renamed the "JimmyC and GH bitch fight megathread", which covers the content of the thread a lot better. Imho the solution where both are forbidden from responding to the other, mentioning the other or quoting the other is about the only way they can both keep posting. I guess alternating thread bans for all politics threads might work too. Alternate every month? E: and regarding PMs, as long as they're private anybody can claim any old nonsense about what they say. I believe that's GH's point with his ridiculous accusation vs Jealous. He could obviously have found a better way of making the point than dragging jealous into it, unless jealous actually did all that shit (doubt it). But I think the underlying point is clear: if you have problems with his PMs report them. If you post about them publicly, don't get your panties in a bundle if he then posts the PM thread in public as well as part of his defense. I made that thread because I’m interested in that topic. And I did so after speaking to Kadaver about timing, appropriateness and so on. And I did so while GH was permed. It was my goal to talk about it with out GH but when he got back he couldn’t help himself but start up again. I also disagree with Drone’s assessment that I include more barbs. What I will agree with is I am far more direct, and he is far more passive aggressive. I also think Seeker was a little too kind to me, he just has experienced the relentlessness of GH and all the times I’ve legitimately tried to bury the hatchet and all the times GH wouldn’t stop. Quick example is after GH sent our initial PMs that got him banned, it included hm saying he was not even that interested or knowledgeable about Venezuela, do you know how many pages of posts their are? He loves the fight, then he loves to come in here and play the victim or PM mods as the victim. That is what is frustrating. Now I post less then ever on that topic because Iknow I will be attacked, or I post vague statements To try not to be attacked. The later does not work, he still goes at me for what ever assumed position he has for me. I mean a page ago I made a very fair offer that if he can just stop harassing me in other threads and not get into a major fight on the pol thread he can be rid of me. But he won’t take it because he knows that he won’t be able to do it. I’ve come to the conclusion that he likes the Drama and that is why the last month or so I have either just got right in the mud also or ignored him, or said I was not in the mood. Mostly in the mud because honestly it is not a big deal to me at this point and I know that regardless of what I do, what thread I post in GH will be there to harass me, treat his assumptions like facts, and be the victim despite him completely having the ability to just not go to the threads I have created. And I will get to have him constantly talk down to me, insult my intelligence, not understand basics of what he is fighting about (new FARC and old FARC is just the latest example, even though he would understand if he read more than the title of the article he posted, much like where he got in a fight with Micro about nuclear waste), but still fight on for pages never admitting facts, or mistakes, and never stopping. So because of that I’m going to continue to respond to him, and it is what it is. And he is going to continue you to fight with me and a bunch of other people. Not for the next two weeks or so, those should be pleasant. At some point Ill get fed up and go the way of P6 and GH will just find a new target to get into fights with and play the victim with. | ||
Liquid`Drone
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That some unnamed group or singular Oligarch planted this to distract the masses from structural change. gh said Anyone say that, or you make it up? jimmy said Someone did yes, I then asked them for clarification and they choose to not respond so it was my presumption based on their post, past posts, and non-normal reaction to not respond that this was their belief. Perhaps you could ask this person to respond to my post and then we would know for sure. But sadly until further clarification I can only work with what information I have. gh said I can confirm for you I never said that and don't think it jimmy said By all means then please explain what you did mean with your post to clear it up. It is a strange strategy to take at least 2 posts to say "I didn't say that" when one post explaining what you did in fact mean would do the trick. Yea you're not barby, and you are 'far more direct and he is passive aggressive'. That's fucking ridiculous. Take a god damn look in the mirror. This was yesterday. | ||
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On September 27 2019 22:20 Liquid`Drone wrote: Kadaver it was a joke from gh. He's basically mocking the 'GH is a jerk in PM's' with zero followup in terms of showing where he is a jerk in private messages. (you can see how he both adds a winky smiley face, and uses jealous' words to reply to jealous. it might not have been immediately obvious, but I think it works, tbh. ) I've communicated quite a lot with GH over pms. Sometimes he has asked too much while I have been too busy to deal with it, and then I've ignored them. I understand that it can be tiresome to deal with. But I've never experienced him as rude, at all. Also could point to multiple examples of him admitting some fault. I also think it's generally a good principle to not share private conversations with the public - but that has to be coupled with a principle of not mentioning some tidbit of a pm. The issue with the "joke" is he is the one who shares parts of the PMs and talks about what is in them. This was how he got banned the first time involving me, he submitted the PMs we had and they ended up getting him banned since he was being a bigger jerk than I was. He would know who he submitted them too so you can ask that mod more about it if you wish. | ||
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On September 27 2019 22:47 Liquid`Drone wrote: jimmy said gh said jimmy said gh said jimmy said Yea you're not barby, and you are 'far more direct and he is passive aggressive'. That's fucking ridiculous. Take a god damn look in the mirror. This was yesterday. You could go read my response to Brian on that because he made the same point you did. My over the top passive aggressive post was hyperbolic in hopes of him not continueing to say "I didnt say that" but rather what he meant. It was a far less offensive joke in the style that you just approved of from GH. Edit: i was being jokey last night, but Ill stop and be respectful or not post at all in regards to GH and hopefully he will do the same. | ||
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On September 28 2019 00:28 Sent. wrote: I would prefer if neither xDaunt nor Grumbels were actioned, but now that Grumbels finally received something for his post, I would like to praise the responsible moderator for trying to be unbiased. On September 27 2019 22:01 Grumbels wrote: fyi, I don’t take these warnings seriously and I don’t intend to change my behavior. Probably not the last we'll see from that quarter. | ||
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On October 03 2019 08:44 KadaverBB wrote: I dont even have a drivers license and don't drink alcohol And you call yourself a German? For shame! | ||
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On November 25 2019 20:40 eaglesha wrote: Thanks for sharing this cognitive information. It's useful. You may also create your account of some informative sites to enhance knowledge. User was banned for this post. I know he got banned, but was my quoting a few interesting tidbits of the day an issue somehow ? My understanding was always that discussions mostly start based on the news. I lack time (and knowledge) to go as deep into philosophical issues as some posters, but I don't see sharing news as a non-useful post. Let me know if it annoys. ps : it would be great to be able to find that thread in the LiquidDota site since the USPol is also present there. I seldom come here anymore, and couldn't find it there. | ||
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