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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 26 2019 21:56 GMT
#5301
On September 27 2019 06:22 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:05 KwarK wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:00 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:51 KwarK wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:50 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:43 KwarK wrote:
I still don’t know what you get out of pretending to be an oppressed conservative Sermokala. You’re as right wing as I am. I’ve honestly no recollection of you ever advocating for any conservative policy, all I’ve seen is you alleging that you’re a victim of persecution for beliefs that, as far as I can tell, you don’t have.

I just don’t get it.

I don't get what you get out of being a complete dick to me and everyone else in the thread dancing behind a veneer of "gee I'm British we do this for fun". I agree with the war on drugs I agree with the war in iraq and Afghanistan I agree that the right to bear arms shouldn't be infringed. I don't believe that hate speech is a punishable offense. I don't think that you should be able to dig up peoples quotes or texts from when they were a kid or from 10+ years ago in a crusade to ruin their life. I didn't think gay people needed to be married. I was on the side of the cake baker. I don't think colin Kaepernick is being blackballed because of his stance of being a dick to police people. I think being a police officer is a hard mental grinding position that isn't paid well enough or supported well enough for what its asked to do. I think people who serve in the military are honorable and not child killers.

I have supported a bunch of conservative viewpoints. You being a constant dick and telling me my beliefs are fake is just another way you piss people off every day that they just shrug and ignore because you happened to live in a land where people do that and are funny on television to them.

I’m not trying to attack you, I keep asking you this because you never voice any conservative beliefs. You’re calling me a dick over and over, all I’m doing is asking you what you actually stand for because honestly I just can’t tell from your posts. That’s not an attack, although somehow you still managed to be victimized by it.

Based on the above you disagree with straw liberals and are indistinguishable from Hillary Clinton.

You are not trying to attack me? You just repeated that you think I'm pretending to be a conservative because I enjoy being the victim. Do you just not understand what attacking someone or insulting someone's belief structure even means? Congrats, I'm a young conservative, we agree with Hillary on everything and are confused and frustrated why shes a democrat. You've discovered the secret behind the republican parties under 30 crowd.

I’m not trying to attack you, I’m trying to understand why you, who has never faced any kind of moderation for your political beliefs as far as I know, are so insistent that you’re a victim of political repression. Which you’re still not answering. You haven’t named a single non mainstream belief that you hold. Not one.

If you’re going to keep alleging that you’re victimized for membership of a class it’s not unreasonable to ask why you think that. It’s not an attack on you.

Do you hold any non mainstream beliefs?

If you are unaware then I guess. Telling someone hat they don't belive what they say they believe and only say that they belive it because they enjoy playing a victim is an attack. I'm not saying I'm a victim of political repression. I'm only holding unity with other conservatives who do face repression. I didn't know you needed to be black to give a shit about black people, I'll go tell them you think that they just supported civil rights because they enjoy being a victim.

I think people who come to America illegally shouldn't be allowed to stay, even if they're claiming refugee status unless they're from Mexico in which case it should be a national security issue and we should be intervening in Mexico. If people are so insistent on making them citizens and giving them amnesty through one method or another we should be shipping them to detriot or chicago. On top of that as a grand infrastructure plan we shouldn't be bitching around with so many roads and bridges when clearly what the country needs is a few railroads from Seattle to Duluth Minnesota and making a grand canal from Chicago to the Mississippi. That and the liquid natural gas infrastructure we should have been building for a while to get Europe off of the Russian gas teat. But no lets build more roads because we're bad at thinking ahead. I think we should invade Somalia and instill it as the next American state. Its not even a real country at the moment and it could really use stability and a strong central government to protect and enrich the local people. NAFTA 2.0 should be scrapped for a total economic/security pact. I think californias bid to force colleges to pay student-athletes is a grand conspiracy to make us watch soccer. I'm not really opposed to this but people should know the intent of it to kill football basketball and baseball in America. I seriously doubt anyone still reading this but thanks if you are that last one was a joke btw. I don't think public sports stadiums is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Granted there are some really bad deals out there like the las vegas deal and miamis stadium deal but for the most part these are the largest and best looking buildsing that are being built today. "her der the economic numbers don't support it and civic pride is ilrelevent" yeah shut up people judge atlanta differently now and the longhouse in minnesota is a state treature on par with the confederate flag we won in the civil war that no one is going to take from us.

I admit I kinda lost the plot in there but that should suffice what you are looking for.

I think Kwark’s the only one foolish enough to claim your sincere opinions amount to pretending to be an oppressed conservative, then wonder why the response is to ask him to stop being such a dick about everything all the time. + Show Spoiler +
These are playground games for people half Kwark’s age—misgeneralizing opinions with a pretense to know their real foundations, and dismissing the substance outright. I think the deserved response is to treat it like its close relative, “You’re only saying [X] because you have a tiny penis.” When one’s ready to think and persuade, he can leave off the tiny penis, or playacting oppressed conservative, or triggered libtard, or whatever’s in fashion next month.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43350 Posts
September 26 2019 22:08 GMT
#5302
On September 27 2019 06:56 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:22 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:05 KwarK wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:00 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:51 KwarK wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:50 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:43 KwarK wrote:
I still don’t know what you get out of pretending to be an oppressed conservative Sermokala. You’re as right wing as I am. I’ve honestly no recollection of you ever advocating for any conservative policy, all I’ve seen is you alleging that you’re a victim of persecution for beliefs that, as far as I can tell, you don’t have.

I just don’t get it.

I don't get what you get out of being a complete dick to me and everyone else in the thread dancing behind a veneer of "gee I'm British we do this for fun". I agree with the war on drugs I agree with the war in iraq and Afghanistan I agree that the right to bear arms shouldn't be infringed. I don't believe that hate speech is a punishable offense. I don't think that you should be able to dig up peoples quotes or texts from when they were a kid or from 10+ years ago in a crusade to ruin their life. I didn't think gay people needed to be married. I was on the side of the cake baker. I don't think colin Kaepernick is being blackballed because of his stance of being a dick to police people. I think being a police officer is a hard mental grinding position that isn't paid well enough or supported well enough for what its asked to do. I think people who serve in the military are honorable and not child killers.

I have supported a bunch of conservative viewpoints. You being a constant dick and telling me my beliefs are fake is just another way you piss people off every day that they just shrug and ignore because you happened to live in a land where people do that and are funny on television to them.

I’m not trying to attack you, I keep asking you this because you never voice any conservative beliefs. You’re calling me a dick over and over, all I’m doing is asking you what you actually stand for because honestly I just can’t tell from your posts. That’s not an attack, although somehow you still managed to be victimized by it.

Based on the above you disagree with straw liberals and are indistinguishable from Hillary Clinton.

You are not trying to attack me? You just repeated that you think I'm pretending to be a conservative because I enjoy being the victim. Do you just not understand what attacking someone or insulting someone's belief structure even means? Congrats, I'm a young conservative, we agree with Hillary on everything and are confused and frustrated why shes a democrat. You've discovered the secret behind the republican parties under 30 crowd.

I’m not trying to attack you, I’m trying to understand why you, who has never faced any kind of moderation for your political beliefs as far as I know, are so insistent that you’re a victim of political repression. Which you’re still not answering. You haven’t named a single non mainstream belief that you hold. Not one.

If you’re going to keep alleging that you’re victimized for membership of a class it’s not unreasonable to ask why you think that. It’s not an attack on you.

Do you hold any non mainstream beliefs?

If you are unaware then I guess. Telling someone hat they don't belive what they say they believe and only say that they belive it because they enjoy playing a victim is an attack. I'm not saying I'm a victim of political repression. I'm only holding unity with other conservatives who do face repression. I didn't know you needed to be black to give a shit about black people, I'll go tell them you think that they just supported civil rights because they enjoy being a victim.

I think people who come to America illegally shouldn't be allowed to stay, even if they're claiming refugee status unless they're from Mexico in which case it should be a national security issue and we should be intervening in Mexico. If people are so insistent on making them citizens and giving them amnesty through one method or another we should be shipping them to detriot or chicago. On top of that as a grand infrastructure plan we shouldn't be bitching around with so many roads and bridges when clearly what the country needs is a few railroads from Seattle to Duluth Minnesota and making a grand canal from Chicago to the Mississippi. That and the liquid natural gas infrastructure we should have been building for a while to get Europe off of the Russian gas teat. But no lets build more roads because we're bad at thinking ahead. I think we should invade Somalia and instill it as the next American state. Its not even a real country at the moment and it could really use stability and a strong central government to protect and enrich the local people. NAFTA 2.0 should be scrapped for a total economic/security pact. I think californias bid to force colleges to pay student-athletes is a grand conspiracy to make us watch soccer. I'm not really opposed to this but people should know the intent of it to kill football basketball and baseball in America. I seriously doubt anyone still reading this but thanks if you are that last one was a joke btw. I don't think public sports stadiums is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Granted there are some really bad deals out there like the las vegas deal and miamis stadium deal but for the most part these are the largest and best looking buildsing that are being built today. "her der the economic numbers don't support it and civic pride is ilrelevent" yeah shut up people judge atlanta differently now and the longhouse in minnesota is a state treature on par with the confederate flag we won in the civil war that no one is going to take from us.

I admit I kinda lost the plot in there but that should suffice what you are looking for.

I think Kwark’s the only one foolish enough to claim your sincere opinions amount to pretending to be an oppressed conservative, then wonder why the response is to ask him to stop being such a dick about everything all the time. + Show Spoiler +
These are playground games for people half Kwark’s age—misgeneralizing opinions with a pretense to know their real foundations, and dismissing the substance outright. I think the deserved response is to treat it like its close relative, “You’re only saying [X] because you have a tiny penis.” When one’s ready to think and persuade, he can leave off the tiny penis, or playacting oppressed conservative, or triggered libtard, or whatever’s in fashion next month.

You’re confused. It’s his inclusion of himself in a group of oppressed conservatives, which incidentally I don’t think you’re in either (although you thankfully don’t claim to be) that bugs me. Oppressed conservatives would be the likes of xDaunt, itsjustatank and Testie. He’s factually not oppressed, I think he’s playing the victim because I know damn well he’s not actually a victim.

If this was a white guy alleging that he was a victim of anti black racism I doubt you’d resist the idea that he was perhaps a little too eager to consider himself a victim.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
September 26 2019 22:20 GMT
#5303
On September 27 2019 07:08 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:56 Danglars wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:22 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:05 KwarK wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:00 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:51 KwarK wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:50 Sermokala wrote:
On September 27 2019 05:43 KwarK wrote:
I still don’t know what you get out of pretending to be an oppressed conservative Sermokala. You’re as right wing as I am. I’ve honestly no recollection of you ever advocating for any conservative policy, all I’ve seen is you alleging that you’re a victim of persecution for beliefs that, as far as I can tell, you don’t have.

I just don’t get it.

I don't get what you get out of being a complete dick to me and everyone else in the thread dancing behind a veneer of "gee I'm British we do this for fun". I agree with the war on drugs I agree with the war in iraq and Afghanistan I agree that the right to bear arms shouldn't be infringed. I don't believe that hate speech is a punishable offense. I don't think that you should be able to dig up peoples quotes or texts from when they were a kid or from 10+ years ago in a crusade to ruin their life. I didn't think gay people needed to be married. I was on the side of the cake baker. I don't think colin Kaepernick is being blackballed because of his stance of being a dick to police people. I think being a police officer is a hard mental grinding position that isn't paid well enough or supported well enough for what its asked to do. I think people who serve in the military are honorable and not child killers.

I have supported a bunch of conservative viewpoints. You being a constant dick and telling me my beliefs are fake is just another way you piss people off every day that they just shrug and ignore because you happened to live in a land where people do that and are funny on television to them.

I’m not trying to attack you, I keep asking you this because you never voice any conservative beliefs. You’re calling me a dick over and over, all I’m doing is asking you what you actually stand for because honestly I just can’t tell from your posts. That’s not an attack, although somehow you still managed to be victimized by it.

Based on the above you disagree with straw liberals and are indistinguishable from Hillary Clinton.

You are not trying to attack me? You just repeated that you think I'm pretending to be a conservative because I enjoy being the victim. Do you just not understand what attacking someone or insulting someone's belief structure even means? Congrats, I'm a young conservative, we agree with Hillary on everything and are confused and frustrated why shes a democrat. You've discovered the secret behind the republican parties under 30 crowd.

I’m not trying to attack you, I’m trying to understand why you, who has never faced any kind of moderation for your political beliefs as far as I know, are so insistent that you’re a victim of political repression. Which you’re still not answering. You haven’t named a single non mainstream belief that you hold. Not one.

If you’re going to keep alleging that you’re victimized for membership of a class it’s not unreasonable to ask why you think that. It’s not an attack on you.

Do you hold any non mainstream beliefs?

If you are unaware then I guess. Telling someone hat they don't belive what they say they believe and only say that they belive it because they enjoy playing a victim is an attack. I'm not saying I'm a victim of political repression. I'm only holding unity with other conservatives who do face repression. I didn't know you needed to be black to give a shit about black people, I'll go tell them you think that they just supported civil rights because they enjoy being a victim.

I think people who come to America illegally shouldn't be allowed to stay, even if they're claiming refugee status unless they're from Mexico in which case it should be a national security issue and we should be intervening in Mexico. If people are so insistent on making them citizens and giving them amnesty through one method or another we should be shipping them to detriot or chicago. On top of that as a grand infrastructure plan we shouldn't be bitching around with so many roads and bridges when clearly what the country needs is a few railroads from Seattle to Duluth Minnesota and making a grand canal from Chicago to the Mississippi. That and the liquid natural gas infrastructure we should have been building for a while to get Europe off of the Russian gas teat. But no lets build more roads because we're bad at thinking ahead. I think we should invade Somalia and instill it as the next American state. Its not even a real country at the moment and it could really use stability and a strong central government to protect and enrich the local people. NAFTA 2.0 should be scrapped for a total economic/security pact. I think californias bid to force colleges to pay student-athletes is a grand conspiracy to make us watch soccer. I'm not really opposed to this but people should know the intent of it to kill football basketball and baseball in America. I seriously doubt anyone still reading this but thanks if you are that last one was a joke btw. I don't think public sports stadiums is as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Granted there are some really bad deals out there like the las vegas deal and miamis stadium deal but for the most part these are the largest and best looking buildsing that are being built today. "her der the economic numbers don't support it and civic pride is ilrelevent" yeah shut up people judge atlanta differently now and the longhouse in minnesota is a state treature on par with the confederate flag we won in the civil war that no one is going to take from us.

I admit I kinda lost the plot in there but that should suffice what you are looking for.

I think Kwark’s the only one foolish enough to claim your sincere opinions amount to pretending to be an oppressed conservative, then wonder why the response is to ask him to stop being such a dick about everything all the time. + Show Spoiler +
These are playground games for people half Kwark’s age—misgeneralizing opinions with a pretense to know their real foundations, and dismissing the substance outright. I think the deserved response is to treat it like its close relative, “You’re only saying [X] because you have a tiny penis.” When one’s ready to think and persuade, he can leave off the tiny penis, or playacting oppressed conservative, or triggered libtard, or whatever’s in fashion next month.

Oppressed conservatives would be the likes of xDaunt, itsjustatank and Testie.

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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23514 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 22:55:39
September 26 2019 22:47 GMT
#5304
On September 27 2019 06:32 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:23 Simberto wrote:
On a different topic, i would be very glad if GH and JimmiC could stop the constant passive-aggressive bitching at each other. I get it, you don't like each other.

Seconded. Mostly because they refuse to read each other’s posts.


What do you mean by refusing to read his posts? I skip plenty, but obviously read the ones I bother responding to.

EDIT: Realize this is probably a joke. It's been a long day.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2019 00:04 GMT
#5305
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
September 27 2019 00:10 GMT
#5306
On September 27 2019 06:34 Sent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 06:23 Simberto wrote:
On a different topic, i would be very glad if GH and JimmiC could stop the constant passive-aggressive bitching at each other. I get it, you don't like each other.


Sometimes I wish the mods made a special rule that they're not allowed to address or quote each other in the thread. It would be hard to justify because they're not breaking any rules though.

Oh, believe me, I have tried... I have tried several times to do that. It does NOT work. They always find some way around it and it just makes moderating that much more hectic and difficult. There is no way to settle the GH vs JimmiC thing. The only solution is to either perm them both, or to just let them be.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9009 Posts
September 27 2019 00:24 GMT
#5307
I find it to be entertaining and healthy. So as the great Ken Watanabe said, "Let them fight."
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 27 2019 00:56 GMT
#5308
JonnyBNoHo-GH sequel, to those who remember the original.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2019 01:16 GMT
#5309
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
September 27 2019 01:19 GMT
#5310
On September 27 2019 10:16 JimmiC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 09:10 Seeker wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:34 Sent. wrote:
On September 27 2019 06:23 Simberto wrote:
On a different topic, i would be very glad if GH and JimmiC could stop the constant passive-aggressive bitching at each other. I get it, you don't like each other.


Sometimes I wish the mods made a special rule that they're not allowed to address or quote each other in the thread. It would be hard to justify because they're not breaking any rules though.

Oh, believe me, I have tried... I have tried several times to do that. It does NOT work. They always find some way around it and it just makes moderating that much more hectic and difficult. There is no way to settle the GH vs JimmiC thing. The only solution is to either perm them both, or to just let them be.

This is true, Seeker has tried many things.

Seeker in your opinion when you have asked me to do something have I done what you asked and followed through? And then before I stopped doing that did I privately explain to you why, and get permission first?

Yes. I can honestly say that you actually do what I ask of you. And when you need to voice your complaint, you do it in a respectful and adult-like manner.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2019 01:24 GMT
#5311
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-27 01:38:04
September 27 2019 01:33 GMT
#5312
On September 27 2019 10:24 JimmiC wrote:
Here is a interesting idea; how about rotating thread bans? I'll take first, so I'll be banned from US pol thread until which time GH brings into this thread a fight or someone brings it in about GH. At that time the thread ban swaps from me to him until the same happens (which might be a long time since my only issue in that thread have either been directly with GH or someone mad that me and GH are fighting). I would also request that he does not harass me in the threads I have started.

I'd be OK with going first because I don't believe I'm the biggest part of the problem. If I am then shame on me I don't belong. If I'm not then so be it. It should at least give the thread a break for those that don't just grab their popcorn and are instead annoyed.

Sure. Great idea. Now here's the hard part: Convince GH that it's a great idea. Because I guarantee you that he will never say yes.

GH has never once apologized for his actions, nor has he ever admitted that he was at fault. GH never accepts his mod actions and will always try to get out of it. He'll send you an endless amount of PMs and try to manipulate you to see things his way. When that doesn't work, he posts PM conversations publicly in hopes of trying to get the public to come to his side. And when that doesn't work, he goes crying over to other mods who are willing to listen to him to try to get them on his side.

So, yeah... Good luck with trying to get GH to agree to that, and good luck with trying to get GH to agree to that peacefully without bombarding the mods with annoying ass PMs.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2019 01:44 GMT
#5313
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
September 27 2019 02:08 GMT
#5314
One alternative would be for each of you to try and be the bigger person, at the same time.
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2019 02:09 GMT
#5315
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Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
September 27 2019 02:16 GMT
#5316
On September 27 2019 11:08 IgnE wrote:
One alternative would be for each of you to try and be the bigger person, at the same time.

I can honestly say, with evidence, that JimmiC tries way more often to try to be the bigger person than GH does. I think that the ratio is like 8:2 or something ridiculous like that.
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12376 Posts
September 27 2019 03:15 GMT
#5317
Does he get a cookie?
No will to live, no wish to die
Seeker *
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
Where dat snitch at?37055 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-27 03:18:12
September 27 2019 03:17 GMT
#5318
On September 27 2019 12:15 Nebuchad wrote:
Does he get a cookie?

I mean... If he PMs me his address, I guess I could mail him a package of cookies or something...
ModeratorPeople ask me, "Seeker, what are you seeking?" My answer? "Sleep, damn it! Always sleep!"
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 27 2019 03:36 GMT
#5319
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10253 Posts
September 27 2019 03:42 GMT
#5320
On September 27 2019 10:33 Seeker wrote:
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On September 27 2019 10:24 JimmiC wrote:
Here is a interesting idea; how about rotating thread bans? I'll take first, so I'll be banned from US pol thread until which time GH brings into this thread a fight or someone brings it in about GH. At that time the thread ban swaps from me to him until the same happens (which might be a long time since my only issue in that thread have either been directly with GH or someone mad that me and GH are fighting). I would also request that he does not harass me in the threads I have started.

I'd be OK with going first because I don't believe I'm the biggest part of the problem. If I am then shame on me I don't belong. If I'm not then so be it. It should at least give the thread a break for those that don't just grab their popcorn and are instead annoyed.

Sure. Great idea. Now here's the hard part: Convince GH that it's a great idea. Because I guarantee you that he will never say yes.

GH has never once apologized for his actions, nor has he ever admitted that he was at fault. GH never accepts his mod actions and will always try to get out of it. He'll send you an endless amount of PMs and try to manipulate you to see things his way. When that doesn't work, he posts PM conversations publicly in hopes of trying to get the public to come to his side. And when that doesn't work, he goes crying over to other mods who are willing to listen to him to try to get them on his side.

So, yeah... Good luck with trying to get GH to agree to that, and good luck with trying to get GH to agree to that peacefully without bombarding the mods with annoying ass PMs.

So wait, after all this, he was unpermed? Lmao.
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