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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-21 15:39:43
September 21 2019 15:39 GMT
#5261
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 21 2019 16:10 GMT
#5262
On September 21 2019 22:38 Jealous wrote:
It can easily be sustained, because TL is not a democracy and this is their house, so if the moderators all decide "Hmm, fuck Trump and his supporters tbh," then there will always be a double standard. Even if they DON'T all agree to this, it seems pretty clear what the currently active/relevant mods' inclinations are. In other words, arguing against any hypothetical double standard is pointless even if it is present.

It's well-known that there are plenty of double standards here. Mods that "don't moderate the thread" except when they want to use it to settle grudges, mods that ban one user for something another gets to do without punishment, and, perhaps the most relevant, mods that want to claim that there's a consistent standard for how moderation is done while wanting to reserve the right to clarify nothing about said standard and moderate in a manner that is often seen as capricious.

Approaching this with the "if you don't like it, then just leave" strategy is certainly within their right as a moderation staff. In my eyes it's kind of petty and childish to do that on a consistent basis, but it seems like it's more or less the precedent. I do know that at least a few of the folks on the moderation staff don't really think that's the direction that should be taken, and that a perception of fairness really should play a role in how moderation is done. I don't really know that said people fit into the "active/relevant mods" that you mention, though.

But when you do take on a "if you don't like it, then just leave" approach to all problems, a lot of people end up doing just that. Including, over the years, the vast majority of the people in the thread(s) who actually have something meaningful to contribute. All I seem to see now whenever I come back to look at these threads is... person A coming to the meta-thread to bait person B in the hope that B will say something banworthy, and a large crowd cheering on A because that B fellow just can't stop with his "hot takes" in the main thread. If that's what you refer to as "sustainable" then maybe the real problem is that it isn't worth sustaining in the first place.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
KadaverBB
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Germany25658 Posts
September 21 2019 19:28 GMT
#5263
If we used the USPOL thread to settle grudges I think the thread would be empty.
AdministratorLaws change depending on who's making them, but justice is justice
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15743 Posts
September 25 2019 21:43 GMT
#5264
On September 22 2019 00:14 JimmiC wrote:
I think it also important to remember that xDaunt said he was not willing to change and they may as well perma ban him.


Which was hilarious because he just assumed he was some kinda celebrity that TL would of course accommodate. It was really weird seeing him go through a phase of thinking he was some kinda icon LOL
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2019 00:22 GMT
#5265
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brian
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States9641 Posts
September 26 2019 01:54 GMT
#5266
i felt that way until he made it sufficiently clear he had just been waiting to express his less desirable beliefs. i appreciated most posts, but once the last few passed it couldn’t be quick enough that he’d be gone, imo. i think i even got the report credit.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14131 Posts
September 26 2019 05:09 GMT
#5267
As someone who actually talked with him and exchanged pm's with him I get the feeling he became more and more disillusioned with the whole system and had less and less respect for his fellow posters and the moderation staff. Specifically, he was almost happy with the fact that right-wing posters were told to leave at the start of the new us politics thread. I think after that it was just inevitable with the thread atmosphere and the mods inconsistencies that he was going to flame out.

Hes probably happier today then he was a month ago and we should at least think positively for that.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10321 Posts
September 26 2019 05:53 GMT
#5268
On September 26 2019 14:09 Sermokala wrote:
right-wing posters were told to leave at the start of the new us politics thread.

Link?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
September 26 2019 10:12 GMT
#5269
Victim complex at work?
passive quaranstream fan
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8257 Posts
September 26 2019 10:33 GMT
#5270
On September 26 2019 14:53 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2019 14:09 Sermokala wrote:
right-wing posters were told to leave at the start of the new us politics thread.

Link?


I'm going to jump on this one as well: What? Source please. I was there from the minute the current thread went up, and I do not remember anything of the sort.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2019 14:37 GMT
#5271
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Sent.
Profile Joined June 2012
Poland9299 Posts
Last Edited: 2019-09-26 14:45:58
September 26 2019 14:45 GMT
#5272
You're wrong. This is the new thread. And this is the old one.
You're now breathing manually
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2019 14:52 GMT
#5273
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Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
September 26 2019 16:01 GMT
#5274
So right wing = white supremacism as far as Sermakola is concerned? Always wondered what it meant. Glad we cleared that up.
JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2019 16:10 GMT
#5275
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KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States43991 Posts
September 26 2019 16:20 GMT
#5276
It’s reflective of the mentality that xDaunt got singled out for being conservative (although weirdly a bunch of other conservatives didn’t), rather than for being the awful person he chooses to be. Some people love their victim narratives.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10321 Posts
September 26 2019 16:53 GMT
#5277
Where were they told to leave the thread though? Link to post?
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 26 2019 18:13 GMT
#5278
Let’s not accuse the center/right moderate of having a far-right victim complex or softening supposed white supremacist bans. Unless you absolutely like to clown around. Sent linked the old thread and new thread, so go read what he wrote in website feedback after the date the thread changed over.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Jealous
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
10321 Posts
September 26 2019 18:16 GMT
#5279
On September 27 2019 03:13 Danglars wrote:
Let’s not accuse the center/right moderate of having a far-right victim complex or softening supposed white supremacist bans. Unless you absolutely like to clown around. Sent linked the old thread and new thread, so go read what he wrote in website feedback after the date the thread changed over.

I'm sorry but I don't understand. Can't I just get a link to the post that has this:

"Specifically, he was almost happy with the fact that right-wing posters were told to leave at the start of the new us politics thread. "
"The right to vote is only the oar of the slaveship, I wanna be free." -- бум бум сучка!
Excludos
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Norway8257 Posts
September 26 2019 18:53 GMT
#5280
On September 27 2019 03:16 Jealous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2019 03:13 Danglars wrote:
Let’s not accuse the center/right moderate of having a far-right victim complex or softening supposed white supremacist bans. Unless you absolutely like to clown around. Sent linked the old thread and new thread, so go read what he wrote in website feedback after the date the thread changed over.

I'm sorry but I don't understand. Can't I just get a link to the post that has this:

"Specifically, he was almost happy with the fact that right-wing posters were told to leave at the start of the new us politics thread. "


No no. With a lack of easily avilable evidence, you are supposed to dig through it to find it yourself, not the accuser.
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