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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States13823 Posts
March 03 2017 00:51 GMT
#941
Generally following the effort put into and the quality of the snark and instigation general excuses said actions. KwarK if nothing is a good content creator.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2017 02:51 GMT
#942
The thread is really only as good as the conservative posters allow it to be. The liberal snark and shitposting is a constant. The only thing that varies is the degree to which the conservatives reciprocate.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19023 Posts
March 03 2017 03:55 GMT
#943
get your head out of your ass.

that thread is never good
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LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 03 2017 04:05 GMT
#944
On the bright side, we haven't had any of those poisonous "what is racism" discussions in a good while.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2017 04:14 GMT
#945
On March 03 2017 12:55 tofucake wrote:
get your head out of your ass.

that thread is never good

I agree, but there's a big difference between the current state of the thread (which is bad), and the state of the thread when a conservative poster decides to respond in kind to every affront that comes his way.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19023 Posts
March 03 2017 04:15 GMT
#946
you mean it gets worse?
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2017 04:17 GMT
#947
On March 03 2017 13:15 tofucake wrote:
you mean it gets worse?

Would you like a demonstration? I think the thread is about due for one. I've been letting a lot of shit slide recently. And it's not like the mods are keeping the usual suspects in check.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
March 03 2017 05:10 GMT
#948
On March 03 2017 13:17 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 13:15 tofucake wrote:
you mean it gets worse?

Would you like a demonstration? I think the thread is about due for one. I've been letting a lot of shit slide recently. And it's not like the mods are keeping the usual suspects in check.

If you think someone's post deserves to be actioned, please report it. The thread moves way too fast so it's easy to miss stuff.
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2017 05:21 GMT
#949
On March 03 2017 14:10 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 13:17 xDaunt wrote:
On March 03 2017 13:15 tofucake wrote:
you mean it gets worse?

Would you like a demonstration? I think the thread is about due for one. I've been letting a lot of shit slide recently. And it's not like the mods are keeping the usual suspects in check.

If you think someone's post deserves to be actioned, please report it. The thread moves way too fast so it's easy to miss stuff.

I'm not a high volume reporter. When I report someone, I almost always have a very good reason for doing so. Nevertheless the past several reports that I have made have been ignored. The last report that I made that actually got actioned occurred because some mod (pretty sure it was Tofu) overturned whoever the other mod was who initially canned my report. These experiences, combined with complaints from other posters in this thread that have been ignored, and the general state of the politics thread, make it pretty clear that moderation of the US Politics thread is in a pretty shitty place right now.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 03 2017 05:25 GMT
#950
I also have to say that I've soured on reporting people. I haven't reported all that many people - I tend to stick to the "blatantly, obviously, without a doubt over the edge" posts because my first few showed me that "borderline over the edge" posts seldom get actioned unless the person has a history of being actioned. But a large quantity of the borderline posts make things worse.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 03 2017 05:28 GMT
#951
On March 03 2017 11:51 xDaunt wrote:
The thread is really only as good as the conservative posters allow it to be. The liberal snark and shitposting is a constant. The only thing that varies is the degree to which the conservatives reciprocate.

You're forgetting about LL. Neither conservative nor shitposter; interesting perspective and civil.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2017 05:34 GMT
#952
On March 03 2017 14:28 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 11:51 xDaunt wrote:
The thread is really only as good as the conservative posters allow it to be. The liberal snark and shitposting is a constant. The only thing that varies is the degree to which the conservatives reciprocate.

You're forgetting about LL. Neither conservative nor shitposter; interesting perspective and civil.

Yes, given how frequently he's at odds with the liberal bloc, he can be an honorary member of our club.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United Kingdom13775 Posts
March 03 2017 05:36 GMT
#953
aw shucks
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19023 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 06:20:40
March 03 2017 06:16 GMT
#954
On March 03 2017 13:17 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 13:15 tofucake wrote:
you mean it gets worse?

Would you like a demonstration? I think the thread is about due for one. I've been letting a lot of shit slide recently. And it's not like the mods are keeping the usual suspects in check.
Sure! Please feel free to give me a reason to close the thread forever and be done with the hellhole that it is. What you should have taken away from my post is the realization that if someone smears shit all over the thread, you doing the same will not make the thread better.
Liquipediaasante sana squash banana
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France7864 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-03 12:01:51
March 03 2017 11:58 GMT
#955
On March 03 2017 14:28 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 11:51 xDaunt wrote:
The thread is really only as good as the conservative posters allow it to be. The liberal snark and shitposting is a constant. The only thing that varies is the degree to which the conservatives reciprocate.

You're forgetting about LL. Neither conservative nor shitposter; interesting perspective and civil.

People who disagree with me are terrible and should all be banned, people who agree with me are great, and the guy with the weird position but who essentially says the same thing than me allows me to show how open minded I am.

Where are we again, in kindergarden? I mean, what's the purpose of that thread? To complain about people who argue with you? Here is an idea, make a "US politics megathread from right wing perspective" where you can talk with xDaunt and LL, and all your problem will be solved without having to whine about moderators, who actually do a great job at letting people express themselves without the whole thing degenerating as it would everywhere else into a giant flame war diarrhea.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
March 03 2017 14:38 GMT
#956
On March 03 2017 20:58 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 14:28 Danglars wrote:
On March 03 2017 11:51 xDaunt wrote:
The thread is really only as good as the conservative posters allow it to be. The liberal snark and shitposting is a constant. The only thing that varies is the degree to which the conservatives reciprocate.

You're forgetting about LL. Neither conservative nor shitposter; interesting perspective and civil.

People who disagree with me are terrible and should all be banned, people who agree with me are great, and the guy with the weird position but who essentially says the same thing than me allows me to show how open minded I am.

Where are we again, in kindergarden? I mean, what's the purpose of that thread? To complain about people who argue with you? Here is an idea, make a "US politics megathread from right wing perspective" where you can talk with xDaunt and LL, and all your problem will be solved without having to whine about moderators, who actually do a great job at letting people express themselves without the whole thing degenerating as it would everywhere else into a giant flame war diarrhea.

Exhibit A.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28614 Posts
March 03 2017 15:10 GMT
#957
Are there many places on the internet where we actually have both conservatives and liberals engaged in more civil discourse? We live in a tense period of time, political actions have real consequences, people see their lives negatively influenced by policies.. It makes sense that people are angry. But what we need is more dialogue, not less.

I think most of us can just, assume some personal responsibility, read your post before you press post, evaluate whether that snarky line is really necessary, maybe remove it if it isn't. But like, 2017 politics is a contentious issue. And the reason it's contentious, is that it's important. Seeing as how we're a website centered around gaming, I get that some of it can seem out of place, but I really think we can, and should, accept more adversity when it comes to issues that really, truly matter, than what we accept from balance discussions or whether flash bisu or jaedong is king of brood war.
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xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
March 03 2017 16:17 GMT
#958
On March 04 2017 00:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Are there many places on the internet where we actually have both conservatives and liberals engaged in more civil discourse? We live in a tense period of time, political actions have real consequences, people see their lives negatively influenced by policies.. It makes sense that people are angry. But what we need is more dialogue, not less.

I think most of us can just, assume some personal responsibility, read your post before you press post, evaluate whether that snarky line is really necessary, maybe remove it if it isn't. But like, 2017 politics is a contentious issue. And the reason it's contentious, is that it's important. Seeing as how we're a website centered around gaming, I get that some of it can seem out of place, but I really think we can, and should, accept more adversity when it comes to issues that really, truly matter, than what we accept from balance discussions or whether flash bisu or jaedong is king of brood war.


I don't see why it's so hard to understand that the complaint isn't about all of the liberal posters so much as it is about a few of the liberal posters. This is not a new complaint that can be chalked up to the current polarized political environment. There's been a disparity in the moderation of conservative and liberal posters for years. Conservative shitposting was basically stamped out whereas no such purge was ever conducted on the other side.
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17947 Posts
March 03 2017 16:20 GMT
#959
On March 04 2017 01:17 xDaunt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 04 2017 00:10 Liquid`Drone wrote:
Are there many places on the internet where we actually have both conservatives and liberals engaged in more civil discourse? We live in a tense period of time, political actions have real consequences, people see their lives negatively influenced by policies.. It makes sense that people are angry. But what we need is more dialogue, not less.

I think most of us can just, assume some personal responsibility, read your post before you press post, evaluate whether that snarky line is really necessary, maybe remove it if it isn't. But like, 2017 politics is a contentious issue. And the reason it's contentious, is that it's important. Seeing as how we're a website centered around gaming, I get that some of it can seem out of place, but I really think we can, and should, accept more adversity when it comes to issues that really, truly matter, than what we accept from balance discussions or whether flash bisu or jaedong is king of brood war.


I don't see why it's so hard to understand that the complaint isn't about all of the liberal posters so much as it is about a few of the liberal posters. This is not a new complaint that can be chalked up to the current polarized political environment. There's been a disparity in the moderation of conservative and liberal posters for years. Conservative shitposting was basically stamped out whereas no such purge was ever conducted on the other side.

Please give an example of a liberal post which according to you crossed the line, but wasn't actioned, despite being reported.

Also, RiK is still around, as is SoSexy. Plenty of opportunity for rightwing shitposting.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5431 Posts
March 03 2017 16:36 GMT
#960
On March 03 2017 15:16 tofucake wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 03 2017 13:17 xDaunt wrote:
On March 03 2017 13:15 tofucake wrote:
you mean it gets worse?

Would you like a demonstration? I think the thread is about due for one. I've been letting a lot of shit slide recently. And it's not like the mods are keeping the usual suspects in check.
Sure! Please feel free to give me a reason to close the thread forever and be done with the hellhole that it is. What you should have taken away from my post is the realization that if someone smears shit all over the thread, you doing the same will not make the thread better.

You just shouldn't be moderating with this attitude, Drone has much more the right idea with respect to faith in the community and why we get together here.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
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