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kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 20:51:24
February 22 2017 20:51 GMT
#901
On February 23 2017 05:45 LegalLord wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 03:45 xDaunt wrote:
Maybe you haven't noticed, but a majority of the thread's posts have been shit posts and troll posts this month.

Within the past two weeks, to be precise. Since February 8.

I find your attempt to place the blame on those returning from ban bets pretty funny considering how much you've been trolling with sarcastic posts, and shitposting in general, in the thread.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands21973 Posts
February 22 2017 20:52 GMT
#902
On February 23 2017 05:51 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 05:45 LegalLord wrote:
On February 23 2017 03:45 xDaunt wrote:
Maybe you haven't noticed, but a majority of the thread's posts have been shit posts and troll posts this month.

Within the past two weeks, to be precise. Since February 8.

I find your attempt to place the blame on those returning from ban bets pretty funny considering how much you've been trolling with sarcastic posts, and shitposting in general, in the thread.

Second this.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 21:26:59
February 22 2017 21:01 GMT
#903
Want a serious discussion? Start one. Want to follow me around like a troll with random stupid remarks that add nothing? Make low content posts like Twitter spam on useless topics? You will get less serious replies in return.

I'm going to leave it at that because I'm not up for another meta-politics discussion. I have had way too many of those. Nevertheless, I did notice a precipitous decline in discussion quality right after my above comment, so I stick to that interpretation.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
February 22 2017 21:06 GMT
#904
you're the one starting the trolling legal, as such you should stop it.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14049 Posts
February 22 2017 21:29 GMT
#905
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
tofucake
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Hyrule19162 Posts
February 22 2017 21:33 GMT
#906
well since there's no worthwhile discussion going on we may as well lock the thread and ban political discussion completely, right?
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zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 21:46:27
February 22 2017 21:41 GMT
#907
On February 23 2017 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.

false charge; just because I notice LL doing it more than most doesn't mean I don't notice others doing it as well, and wouldn't favor actions against those others. I don't need to call out every infractor in order to complain about a specific infractor. please keep your facts straight.

tofu, what's needed is more warnings for the frequent infractions, and some bans if necessary.
but if it's too hard to moderate a shutdown may be better.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
February 22 2017 21:50 GMT
#908
Talk about airing of grievances. Singling out LegalLord out of pages of shitpost city is just zlefin's political leanings on display.

On February 23 2017 06:06 zlefin wrote:
you're the one starting the trolling legal, as such you should stop it.

I like this raw take for what it symbolizes.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States23493 Posts
February 22 2017 21:56 GMT
#909
On February 23 2017 06:33 tofucake wrote:
well since there's no worthwhile discussion going on we may as well lock the thread and ban political discussion completely, right?


TL, consistently holding itself to a higher standard than the entirety of the US government.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14049 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 23:06:21
February 22 2017 22:59 GMT
#910
On February 23 2017 06:41 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.

false charge; just because I notice LL doing it more than most doesn't mean I don't notice others doing it as well, and wouldn't favor actions against those others. I don't need to call out every infractor in order to complain about a specific infractor. please keep your facts straight.

tofu, what's needed is more warnings for the frequent infractions, and some bans if necessary.
but if it's too hard to moderate a shutdown may be better.

If the conversation isn't up to my standards then there shouldn't be a conversation at all.

If it wasn't a false charge you'd go after anyone else after we've hit you time after time for oddly going just after LL.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
February 22 2017 23:00 GMT
#911
On February 23 2017 06:33 tofucake wrote:
well since there's no worthwhile discussion going on we may as well lock the thread and ban political discussion completely, right?

I'm not exactly opposed at this point.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-22 23:57:15
February 22 2017 23:50 GMT
#912
On February 23 2017 07:59 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 06:41 zlefin wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.

false charge; just because I notice LL doing it more than most doesn't mean I don't notice others doing it as well, and wouldn't favor actions against those others. I don't need to call out every infractor in order to complain about a specific infractor. please keep your facts straight.

tofu, what's needed is more warnings for the frequent infractions, and some bans if necessary.
but if it's too hard to moderate a shutdown may be better.

If the conversation isn't up to my standards then there shouldn't be a conversation at all.

If it wasn't a false charge you'd go after anyone else after we've hit you time after time for oddly going just after LL.

since you choose to misrepresent my stance in your first paragraph, I decline to engage more with you. please be more careful in your use of logic.

you really need to be more careful in exactly what your claiming.
I forget the exact fallacies you're using, and I don't feel like looking them up to explain to you, maybe someone else remembers the precise one.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
February 22 2017 23:58 GMT
#913
On February 23 2017 06:33 tofucake wrote:
well since there's no worthwhile discussion going on we may as well lock the thread and ban political discussion completely, right?

I second this. Maybe we should lock it for a short period of time etc...
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
February 23 2017 00:04 GMT
#914
On February 23 2017 08:58 BigFan wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 06:33 tofucake wrote:
well since there's no worthwhile discussion going on we may as well lock the thread and ban political discussion completely, right?

I second this. Maybe we should lock it for a short period of time etc...

if you need time to review for warnings, then of course.
from what I can see, the time where a temp threadlock can allow stuff to cool usefully seems to have passed; stuff has already cooled off some.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14049 Posts
February 23 2017 01:23 GMT
#915
On February 23 2017 08:50 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 07:59 Sermokala wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:41 zlefin wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.

false charge; just because I notice LL doing it more than most doesn't mean I don't notice others doing it as well, and wouldn't favor actions against those others. I don't need to call out every infractor in order to complain about a specific infractor. please keep your facts straight.

tofu, what's needed is more warnings for the frequent infractions, and some bans if necessary.
but if it's too hard to moderate a shutdown may be better.

If the conversation isn't up to my standards then there shouldn't be a conversation at all.

If it wasn't a false charge you'd go after anyone else after we've hit you time after time for oddly going just after LL.

since you choose to misrepresent my stance in your first paragraph, I decline to engage more with you. please be more careful in your use of logic.

you really need to be more careful in exactly what your claiming.
I forget the exact fallacies you're using, and I don't feel like looking them up to explain to you, maybe someone else remembers the precise one.

Beacuse we don't agree on what my stance is I am going to declare the high ground and leave.

Then I'm going to act confused and lazy about the logical falacy you're using.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
February 23 2017 01:54 GMT
#916
On February 23 2017 10:23 Sermokala wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 08:50 zlefin wrote:
On February 23 2017 07:59 Sermokala wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:41 zlefin wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.

false charge; just because I notice LL doing it more than most doesn't mean I don't notice others doing it as well, and wouldn't favor actions against those others. I don't need to call out every infractor in order to complain about a specific infractor. please keep your facts straight.

tofu, what's needed is more warnings for the frequent infractions, and some bans if necessary.
but if it's too hard to moderate a shutdown may be better.

If the conversation isn't up to my standards then there shouldn't be a conversation at all.

If it wasn't a false charge you'd go after anyone else after we've hit you time after time for oddly going just after LL.

since you choose to misrepresent my stance in your first paragraph, I decline to engage more with you. please be more careful in your use of logic.

you really need to be more careful in exactly what your claiming.
I forget the exact fallacies you're using, and I don't feel like looking them up to explain to you, maybe someone else remembers the precise one.

Beacuse we don't agree on what my stance is I am going to declare the high ground and leave.

Then I'm going to act confused and lazy about the logical falacy you're using.

more to the point: you are persistently unsound and/or uncivil, therefore I will not discuss with you.
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14049 Posts
February 23 2017 03:13 GMT
#917
On February 23 2017 10:54 zlefin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 10:23 Sermokala wrote:
On February 23 2017 08:50 zlefin wrote:
On February 23 2017 07:59 Sermokala wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:41 zlefin wrote:
On February 23 2017 06:29 Sermokala wrote:
You're the one that for some obvious reason keeps targeting LL when there are almost everyone else doing the exact same thing that you keep ignoring.

false charge; just because I notice LL doing it more than most doesn't mean I don't notice others doing it as well, and wouldn't favor actions against those others. I don't need to call out every infractor in order to complain about a specific infractor. please keep your facts straight.

tofu, what's needed is more warnings for the frequent infractions, and some bans if necessary.
but if it's too hard to moderate a shutdown may be better.

If the conversation isn't up to my standards then there shouldn't be a conversation at all.

If it wasn't a false charge you'd go after anyone else after we've hit you time after time for oddly going just after LL.

since you choose to misrepresent my stance in your first paragraph, I decline to engage more with you. please be more careful in your use of logic.

you really need to be more careful in exactly what your claiming.
I forget the exact fallacies you're using, and I don't feel like looking them up to explain to you, maybe someone else remembers the precise one.

Beacuse we don't agree on what my stance is I am going to declare the high ground and leave.

Then I'm going to act confused and lazy about the logical falacy you're using.

more to the point: you are persistently unsound and/or uncivil, therefore I will not discuss with you.

I previously said that I wouldn't argue with you but I feel that I should discredit you somehow then state again that I'm not going to argue with you. I don't understand at all what you are doing so I think repeating the same shitty debate tactic will make me look good to people that normally agree with me.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17068 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-02-23 19:48:04
February 23 2017 19:38 GMT
#918
On February 23 2017 05:51 kwizach wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 23 2017 05:45 LegalLord wrote:
On February 23 2017 03:45 xDaunt wrote:
Maybe you haven't noticed, but a majority of the thread's posts have been shit posts and troll posts this month.

Within the past two weeks, to be precise. Since February 8.

I find your attempt to place the blame on those returning from ban bets pretty funny considering how much you've been trolling with sarcastic posts, and shitposting in general, in the thread.

LegalLord's overall posting record is solid. the signal-to-noise ratio of his posts is above the site average.
On February 23 2017 06:06 zlefin wrote:
you're the one starting the trolling legal, as such you should stop it.

i learn new things from LL's posts. i probably agree with LL 50% of the time. if he wants to joke around sometimes.. so be it. if he wants to make fun of me ( which he never has ) when he doesn't agree with me ... i don't care.

if i've known someone more than 6 months and they've never offended me... i don't trust them. i wonder ... what is this person trying to sell?

too many people in the US Politics thread are wandering around waiting to be offended. its lame.
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IgnE
Profile Joined November 2010
United States7681 Posts
February 23 2017 21:58 GMT
#919
On February 24 2017 06:55 Plansix wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2017 06:52 Amui wrote:
On February 24 2017 04:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
WTF....


He has to get his ego stroked by everybody he meets. Just a way to lift spirits, nothing more.

He's a pretty obvious cunt.

In the land of alternative facts, this post is quite refreshing.


plansix often posts like the thread is his personal twitter. i guess i need to make it more obvious. annoying!
The unrealistic sound of these propositions is indicative, not of their utopian character, but of the strength of the forces which prevent their realization.
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
February 23 2017 23:59 GMT
#920
On February 24 2017 06:58 IgnE wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 24 2017 06:55 Plansix wrote:
On February 24 2017 06:52 Amui wrote:
On February 24 2017 04:48 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
WTF....

https://twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/834799339121815554

He has to get his ego stroked by everybody he meets. Just a way to lift spirits, nothing more.

He's a pretty obvious cunt.

In the land of alternative facts, this post is quite refreshing.


plansix often posts like the thread is his personal twitter. i guess i need to make it more obvious. annoying!

Well this enhanced my thread-reading experience. Thanks a bunch.
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