EPTUS Politics Feedback Thread - Page 184
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 17 2018 05:10 LegalLord wrote: Maybe, if you consider them to not have addressed the point in sufficient detail, you should take to hounding them every time they made a subsequent post about the previous times they didn’t answer you’re question sufficiently well. won't address the problem: the problem is in these types of cases they dont even stick around long enough for that. Like they'll issue just one post; or only be posting for a few hours, then go silent again for weeks. you can't hound someone who's disappeared from the thread and is non-responsive. and you may well not notice them in time to respond to them for the short time they're around. | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
On August 17 2018 05:10 LegalLord wrote: Maybe, if you consider them to not have addressed the point in sufficient detail, you should take to hounding them every time they made a subsequent post about the previous times they didn’t answer you’re question sufficiently well. Again, I would like to remind people that Agent Jennings only hands out advice that would lead to his amusement, rather than a solution the issue being discussed. | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On August 17 2018 06:29 zlefin wrote: and you may well not notice them in time to respond to them for the short time they're around. Sounds like a self-resolving issue in that case. | ||
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screamingpalm
United States1527 Posts
I'm not here to second guess mod actions. I just really miss GH and feels like he brings a different perspective to the thread. I just want to come to plea to have him back. Don't know if he is perma banned from the thread or temporary, but just want to advocate for a return if at all possible. Thanks | ||
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Plansix
United States60190 Posts
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Seeker
Where dat snitch at?37032 Posts
On August 17 2018 23:28 JimmiC wrote: When someone pots something funny, but you have nothing intelligent to add, what is the best way to respond. I know we can't do +1. Can you write LOL good one, appreciated? Just PM them? Whats best? (the not sure of Russian MIG comments cracked me up.) In general, a low content one-liner is not allowed if you're using it to insult someone or make fun of them. However, if it's being used as a compliment, then we won't penalize you for it because you're not actually trying to hurt anyone with your comment. But yeah, don't ever do +1. That's never allowed. | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Dangermousecatdog
United Kingdom7084 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States23294 Posts
On August 17 2018 15:04 screamingpalm wrote: Hi guys! I'm not here to second guess mod actions. I just really miss GH and feels like he brings a different perspective to the thread. I just want to come to plea to have him back. Don't know if he is perma banned from the thread or temporary, but just want to advocate for a return if at all possible. Thanks I'm sorta back. Don't think I'll be going back to US politics thread any time soon though. | ||
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oBlade
United States5669 Posts
On August 17 2018 06:29 zlefin wrote: won't address the problem: the problem is in these types of cases they dont even stick around long enough for that. Like they'll issue just one post; or only be posting for a few hours, then go silent again for weeks. you can't hound someone who's disappeared from the thread and is non-responsive. and you may well not notice them in time to respond to them for the short time they're around. That's not an issue, you're not using the thread right if you thought your job was to beat every dead horse until people stop bothering so you can say you're right about everything. You should be trying to post well, not "win." | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 18 2018 13:22 oBlade wrote: That's not an issue, you're not using the thread right if you thought your job was to beat every dead horse until people stop bothering so you can say you're right about everything. You should be trying to post well, not "win." it is an issue, you just didn't understand the problem correctly, so your counterpoint is missing the underlying issue. The problem is that the people in question do not post well, and they do it in a way which prevents feedback from getting to them or them improving at all, and in a way that prevents discussion from occurring at all really (or at least discussion with them) | ||
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oBlade
United States5669 Posts
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Aquanim
Australia2849 Posts
On August 18 2018 23:24 oBlade wrote: They are posting infrequently, not poorly. You thinking someone is wrong doesn't make them a bad poster that needs improvement. If you want to persuade them of something or change their mind, send them an enlightening private message so you know they'll read it even if they don't check the thread. Is this a claim that Gotunk was not posting poorly, or is this a rhetorical statement? | ||
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LegalLord
United Kingdom13775 Posts
On August 18 2018 22:54 zlefin wrote: it is an issue, you just didn't understand the problem correctly, so your counterpoint is missing the underlying issue. The problem is that the people in question do not post well, and they do it in a way which prevents feedback from getting to them or them improving at all, and in a way that prevents discussion from occurring at all really (or at least discussion with them) The PM system is your friend. Perhaps, given your obvious passion for the topic, you can take a lead in rating people's thread performance, delivered to them in the confidence of a detailed private message? Maybe that will be the only way they will know that they actually went too far, if they don't have a chance to see that criticism because they don't post often enough. | ||
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iamthedave
England2814 Posts
On August 18 2018 04:52 GreenHorizons wrote: I'm sorta back. Don't think I'll be going back to US politics thread any time soon though. Not a great surprise. You don't seem to enjoy it much. Did the last ban cross a line? | ||
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zlefin
United States7689 Posts
On August 18 2018 23:24 oBlade wrote: They are posting infrequently, not poorly. You thinking someone is wrong doesn't make them a bad poster that needs improvement. If you want to persuade them of something or change their mind, send them an enlightening private message so you know they'll read it even if they don't check the thread. you're ignoring the argument to dodge the question. please don't do that, it's arguing in bad faith. i.e. regardless of whether any specific individual is posting poorly; my point is about the general problem of someone who posts poorly and infrequently, while ignoring the counterarguments entirely. there's no reason to believe such individuals will read pms either, rather than simply ignoring them. though I may give that a try at some point anyways. you're also falsely assume i'm conflating someone being wrong with them being a bad poster. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23294 Posts
On August 19 2018 01:37 iamthedave wrote: Not a great surprise. You don't seem to enjoy it much. Did the last ban cross a line? I enjoy it well enough, but it's clear there are some fundamental disagreements on the problems in the thread, also it's a bit more "tattletaley" than I'm willing to deal with anymore. | ||
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oBlade
United States5669 Posts
On August 19 2018 02:54 zlefin wrote: you're ignoring the argument to dodge the question. please don't do that, it's arguing in bad faith. i.e. regardless of whether any specific individual is posting poorly; my point is about the general problem of someone who posts poorly and infrequently, while ignoring the counterarguments entirely. there's no reason to believe such individuals will read pms either, rather than simply ignoring them. though I may give that a try at some point anyways. you're also falsely assume i'm conflating someone being wrong with them being a bad poster. Well, my friend, mod actions are delivered in PM, so what's the next step of your master plan? You incorrectly believe that people disagreeing with you are ignoring you. In addition, your argument presupposes that you have a right on this website to personally force your speech down everyone's throat and not be ignored, which is a form of special pleading as you blatantly refuse the same privileges to your ideological antagonists. Further, you wrongly assume that you're objective enough to know why you're shitting on other posters. To wit, you mistakenly ascribe this problem to posting frequency, whereas there are myriad examples of users who post all the time and ignore counterarguments. We can quibble about specifics but you in any other context would be whining about Danglars, such cases you're conveniently overlooking now, so you need to reconsider this alleged issue. People have limited time and even if they didn't they shouldn't be engaging with every single thing that happens in the thread because if everyone did that it'd be a quagmire. I remember one time you suggested I assumed the past we experienced was the best possible future and ordered me to prove otherwise. This character is tiring and you shouldn't expect people to engage with that or be bothered when they don't. | ||
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