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marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 16 2012 20:19 GMT
#421
If people are insulting you seemingly without due cause, it is most likely because you provoke people simply in the way you post and argue. If you have not grasped why, by now, then I dispense with all hope that I can make you understand.
memes are a dish best served dank
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:25:15
November 16 2012 20:24 GMT
#422
On November 17 2012 05:19 marttorn wrote:
If people are insulting you seemingly without due cause, it is most likely because you provoke people simply in the way you post and argue. If you have not grasped why, by now, then I dispense with all hope that I can make you understand.

People just need to handle hearing opinions they don't agree with without spouting insults like a child. I spend most of my time in politics threads, believe me when I say I see some very "provoking" people or arguments. And yet I don't respond by calling people retards or insulting them personally. Learn some self-control maybe.

On November 17 2012 05:06 marttorn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 04:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:58 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:54 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:53 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:50 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Banning movies from a country now?

lol, and they call themselves the land of the free and the home....

Oh wait, never mind, this is Europe. Time to put on my rose colored glasses.

User was temp banned for this post.

This is what jd was banned for that he claims is not euro bashing, I think that ends this round of the mods are out to get me.

Please stop misrepresenting my statements. Thank you.


There is no context for that that we're not getting. It's in a thread about the UK banning Human Centipede II. You were not misunderstood. Your post was also not edited.

And it is clearly not euro-bashing, it's pointing out hypocrisy. Clearly. And I never said the mods were out to get me.


Then how were you misrepresented? The post was/is right there, for everyone to see and make their own judgement on.

Because I never said the mods were out to get me, and I never used this ban as an example of mods being out to get me. That's 2 misrepresentations there.


You did do your fair share of quibbling about some unnamed mod bearing a grudge against you. And I think what jasper meant to do was simply to point out how wrong you were about one of your own bans.

How am I wrong? Do you honestly interpret that post to be "stereotypical euro-bashing"? Do you honestly not see the point I am trying to make with that post?

I happen to think that ban was justified


How about these posts?

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2011 04:32 SaviorSelf wrote:

On April 23 2011 08:20 frontline wrote:
Typical BS United States :/

fixed, for accuracy

On April 23 2011 08:43 Hypemeup wrote:
USA #1!
USA #1!
USA #1!

This is just sad

On April 23 2011 09:12 Project Psycho wrote:
well theres nothing like the land of the free, eh?

On April 23 2011 09:30 Roggay wrote:
Wow, the law is pretty fucked up in the US. Well, not that I didnt knew that but still.
It seems that the school system is a shame to begin with in the US. Poor people > bad schools, rich people > good schools, caught wanting your son a better school and you are not rich > 20years jail. Way to go america.

On April 23 2011 10:37 HansMoleman wrote:
The land of the free....

On April 23 2011 12:05 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Even china has better laws


On April 23 2011 21:41 Roeder wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:24 BlackFlag wrote:
Europe isn't that much better.

Yes. Yes it is.

Actually it's much better.

On April 24 2011 02:14 Coraz wrote:
only a wicked society goes after homeless people and widows and kicks them while they are down

On April 24 2011 05:53 ZessiM wrote:
The lack of empathy for the poor in the United States is staggering.

On April 24 2011 04:34 Kukaracha wrote:
Rosa Parks should've played by the rules, don't you think? That nigger ain't have the rite' to sit dow' on mah bus!

On June 06 2011 18:44 DavidMcF wrote:
At least Obama is trying to drag America into civilisation

Rushingwolf June 08 2011 05:43. Posts 47 PM Profile Quote #
people and especially police in the united states are quite trigger happy


The point wasn't whether the ban can be justified, the point is whether its consistent with the rest of moderation.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34493 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:26:50
November 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#423
When did this thread become General forums

edit: Oh nvm still discussing moderation, carry on.
Moderator
corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
November 16 2012 20:26 GMT
#424
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.
‎numquam se plus agere quam nihil cum ageret, numquam minus solum esse quam cum solus esset
semantics
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
10040 Posts
November 16 2012 20:27 GMT
#425
On November 17 2012 05:26 corumjhaelen wrote:
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.

Is this a test?
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 16 2012 20:28 GMT
#426
On November 17 2012 05:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:19 marttorn wrote:
If people are insulting you seemingly without due cause, it is most likely because you provoke people simply in the way you post and argue. If you have not grasped why, by now, then I dispense with all hope that I can make you understand.

People just need to handle hearing opinions they don't agree with without spouting insults like a child. I spend most of my time in politics threads, believe me when I say I see some very "provoking" people or arguments. And yet I don't respond by calling people retards or insulting them personally. Learn some self-control maybe.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:06 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:58 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:54 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:53 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:50 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
[quote]
This is what jd was banned for that he claims is not euro bashing, I think that ends this round of the mods are out to get me.

Please stop misrepresenting my statements. Thank you.


There is no context for that that we're not getting. It's in a thread about the UK banning Human Centipede II. You were not misunderstood. Your post was also not edited.

And it is clearly not euro-bashing, it's pointing out hypocrisy. Clearly. And I never said the mods were out to get me.


Then how were you misrepresented? The post was/is right there, for everyone to see and make their own judgement on.

Because I never said the mods were out to get me, and I never used this ban as an example of mods being out to get me. That's 2 misrepresentations there.


You did do your fair share of quibbling about some unnamed mod bearing a grudge against you. And I think what jasper meant to do was simply to point out how wrong you were about one of your own bans.

How am I wrong? Do you honestly interpret that post to be "stereotypical euro-bashing"? Do you honestly not see the point I am trying to make with that post?

I happen to think that ban was justified


How about these posts?

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2011 04:32 SaviorSelf wrote:

On April 23 2011 08:20 frontline wrote:
Typical BS United States :/

fixed, for accuracy

On April 23 2011 08:43 Hypemeup wrote:
USA #1!
USA #1!
USA #1!

This is just sad

On April 23 2011 09:12 Project Psycho wrote:
well theres nothing like the land of the free, eh?

On April 23 2011 09:30 Roggay wrote:
Wow, the law is pretty fucked up in the US. Well, not that I didnt knew that but still.
It seems that the school system is a shame to begin with in the US. Poor people > bad schools, rich people > good schools, caught wanting your son a better school and you are not rich > 20years jail. Way to go america.

On April 23 2011 10:37 HansMoleman wrote:
The land of the free....

On April 23 2011 12:05 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Even china has better laws


On April 23 2011 21:41 Roeder wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:24 BlackFlag wrote:
Europe isn't that much better.

Yes. Yes it is.

Actually it's much better.

On April 24 2011 02:14 Coraz wrote:
only a wicked society goes after homeless people and widows and kicks them while they are down

On April 24 2011 05:53 ZessiM wrote:
The lack of empathy for the poor in the United States is staggering.

On April 24 2011 04:34 Kukaracha wrote:
Rosa Parks should've played by the rules, don't you think? That nigger ain't have the rite' to sit dow' on mah bus!

On June 06 2011 18:44 DavidMcF wrote:
At least Obama is trying to drag America into civilisation

Rushingwolf June 08 2011 05:43. Posts 47 PM Profile Quote #
people and especially police in the united states are quite trigger happy


The point wasn't whether the ban can be justified, the point is whether its consistent with the rest of moderation.

The thing is, i could get away with that because of a fairly clean mod history, and i would assume the same for those posters. You have a history of making such posts, and like all moderation history challenged posters, you are held to a different standard due to previous bad posts. You have cleaned up your posting for the most part, so you get more leniency, but at that time your posting as really freaking bad.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:29:47
November 16 2012 20:28 GMT
#427
On November 17 2012 05:26 corumjhaelen wrote:
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.

I took your advice. Now we wait.

On November 17 2012 05:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:19 marttorn wrote:
If people are insulting you seemingly without due cause, it is most likely because you provoke people simply in the way you post and argue. If you have not grasped why, by now, then I dispense with all hope that I can make you understand.

People just need to handle hearing opinions they don't agree with without spouting insults like a child. I spend most of my time in politics threads, believe me when I say I see some very "provoking" people or arguments. And yet I don't respond by calling people retards or insulting them personally. Learn some self-control maybe.

On November 17 2012 05:06 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:58 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:54 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:53 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:50 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:
[quote]
Please stop misrepresenting my statements. Thank you.


There is no context for that that we're not getting. It's in a thread about the UK banning Human Centipede II. You were not misunderstood. Your post was also not edited.

And it is clearly not euro-bashing, it's pointing out hypocrisy. Clearly. And I never said the mods were out to get me.


Then how were you misrepresented? The post was/is right there, for everyone to see and make their own judgement on.

Because I never said the mods were out to get me, and I never used this ban as an example of mods being out to get me. That's 2 misrepresentations there.


You did do your fair share of quibbling about some unnamed mod bearing a grudge against you. And I think what jasper meant to do was simply to point out how wrong you were about one of your own bans.

How am I wrong? Do you honestly interpret that post to be "stereotypical euro-bashing"? Do you honestly not see the point I am trying to make with that post?

I happen to think that ban was justified


How about these posts?

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2011 04:32 SaviorSelf wrote:

On April 23 2011 08:20 frontline wrote:
Typical BS United States :/

fixed, for accuracy

On April 23 2011 08:43 Hypemeup wrote:
USA #1!
USA #1!
USA #1!

This is just sad

On April 23 2011 09:12 Project Psycho wrote:
well theres nothing like the land of the free, eh?

On April 23 2011 09:30 Roggay wrote:
Wow, the law is pretty fucked up in the US. Well, not that I didnt knew that but still.
It seems that the school system is a shame to begin with in the US. Poor people > bad schools, rich people > good schools, caught wanting your son a better school and you are not rich > 20years jail. Way to go america.

On April 23 2011 10:37 HansMoleman wrote:
The land of the free....

On April 23 2011 12:05 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Even china has better laws


On April 23 2011 21:41 Roeder wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:24 BlackFlag wrote:
Europe isn't that much better.

Yes. Yes it is.

Actually it's much better.

On April 24 2011 02:14 Coraz wrote:
only a wicked society goes after homeless people and widows and kicks them while they are down

On April 24 2011 05:53 ZessiM wrote:
The lack of empathy for the poor in the United States is staggering.

On April 24 2011 04:34 Kukaracha wrote:
Rosa Parks should've played by the rules, don't you think? That nigger ain't have the rite' to sit dow' on mah bus!

On June 06 2011 18:44 DavidMcF wrote:
At least Obama is trying to drag America into civilisation

Rushingwolf June 08 2011 05:43. Posts 47 PM Profile Quote #
people and especially police in the united states are quite trigger happy


The point wasn't whether the ban can be justified, the point is whether its consistent with the rest of moderation.

The thing is, i could get away with that because of a fairly clean mod history, and i would assume the same for those posters. You have a history of making such posts, and like all moderation history challenged posters, you are held to a different standard due to previous bad posts. You have cleaned up your posting for the most part, so you get more leniency, but at that time your posting as really freaking bad.

I believe that was the very first ban I got, maybe the second. So your argument holds no weight.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
November 16 2012 20:29 GMT
#428
I do typically moderate for the "only in America" comments but if you would like to PM them to me whenever you see them from now on I'd be happy to take care of them (except for things that really do only happen in America).
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
November 16 2012 20:30 GMT
#429
On November 17 2012 05:28 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:26 corumjhaelen wrote:
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.

I took your advice. Now we wait.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:28 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:19 marttorn wrote:
If people are insulting you seemingly without due cause, it is most likely because you provoke people simply in the way you post and argue. If you have not grasped why, by now, then I dispense with all hope that I can make you understand.

People just need to handle hearing opinions they don't agree with without spouting insults like a child. I spend most of my time in politics threads, believe me when I say I see some very "provoking" people or arguments. And yet I don't respond by calling people retards or insulting them personally. Learn some self-control maybe.

On November 17 2012 05:06 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:58 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:54 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:53 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:50 marttorn wrote:
[quote]

There is no context for that that we're not getting. It's in a thread about the UK banning Human Centipede II. You were not misunderstood. Your post was also not edited.

And it is clearly not euro-bashing, it's pointing out hypocrisy. Clearly. And I never said the mods were out to get me.


Then how were you misrepresented? The post was/is right there, for everyone to see and make their own judgement on.

Because I never said the mods were out to get me, and I never used this ban as an example of mods being out to get me. That's 2 misrepresentations there.


You did do your fair share of quibbling about some unnamed mod bearing a grudge against you. And I think what jasper meant to do was simply to point out how wrong you were about one of your own bans.

How am I wrong? Do you honestly interpret that post to be "stereotypical euro-bashing"? Do you honestly not see the point I am trying to make with that post?

I happen to think that ban was justified


How about these posts?

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2011 04:32 SaviorSelf wrote:

On April 23 2011 08:20 frontline wrote:
Typical BS United States :/

fixed, for accuracy

On April 23 2011 08:43 Hypemeup wrote:
USA #1!
USA #1!
USA #1!

This is just sad

On April 23 2011 09:12 Project Psycho wrote:
well theres nothing like the land of the free, eh?

On April 23 2011 09:30 Roggay wrote:
Wow, the law is pretty fucked up in the US. Well, not that I didnt knew that but still.
It seems that the school system is a shame to begin with in the US. Poor people > bad schools, rich people > good schools, caught wanting your son a better school and you are not rich > 20years jail. Way to go america.

On April 23 2011 10:37 HansMoleman wrote:
The land of the free....

On April 23 2011 12:05 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Even china has better laws


On April 23 2011 21:41 Roeder wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:24 BlackFlag wrote:
Europe isn't that much better.

Yes. Yes it is.

Actually it's much better.

On April 24 2011 02:14 Coraz wrote:
only a wicked society goes after homeless people and widows and kicks them while they are down

On April 24 2011 05:53 ZessiM wrote:
The lack of empathy for the poor in the United States is staggering.

On April 24 2011 04:34 Kukaracha wrote:
Rosa Parks should've played by the rules, don't you think? That nigger ain't have the rite' to sit dow' on mah bus!

On June 06 2011 18:44 DavidMcF wrote:
At least Obama is trying to drag America into civilisation

Rushingwolf June 08 2011 05:43. Posts 47 PM Profile Quote #
people and especially police in the united states are quite trigger happy


The point wasn't whether the ban can be justified, the point is whether its consistent with the rest of moderation.

The thing is, i could get away with that because of a fairly clean mod history, and i would assume the same for those posters. You have a history of making such posts, and like all moderation history challenged posters, you are held to a different standard due to previous bad posts. You have cleaned up your posting for the most part, so you get more leniency, but at that time your posting as really freaking bad.

I believe that was the very first ban I got, maybe the second. So your argument holds no weight.


My second was a 2-week. You'll understand if I feel somewhat less than zero sympathy for you.
Jaaaaasper
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States10225 Posts
November 16 2012 20:32 GMT
#430
jd, due to your abl posting i am biased in your favor, but you have driven off every single person inclined ideologically to defend you, due to your insistence that mods are out to get you. You have a bad moderation history, and your reap what you sow. I would much rather side with you than some of the people attacking you, but you make it really hard.
Hey do you want to hear a joke? Chinese production value. | I thought he had a aegis- Ayesee | When did 7ing mad last have a good game, 2012?
marttorn
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Norway5211 Posts
November 16 2012 20:32 GMT
#431
On November 17 2012 05:24 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:19 marttorn wrote:
If people are insulting you seemingly without due cause, it is most likely because you provoke people simply in the way you post and argue. If you have not grasped why, by now, then I dispense with all hope that I can make you understand.

People just need to handle hearing opinions they don't agree with without spouting insults like a child. I spend most of my time in politics threads, believe me when I say I see some very "provoking" people or arguments. And yet I don't respond by calling people retards or insulting them personally. Learn some self-control maybe.

Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:06 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:59 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:58 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:54 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:53 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:52 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:50 marttorn wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
[quote]
This is what jd was banned for that he claims is not euro bashing, I think that ends this round of the mods are out to get me.

Please stop misrepresenting my statements. Thank you.


There is no context for that that we're not getting. It's in a thread about the UK banning Human Centipede II. You were not misunderstood. Your post was also not edited.

And it is clearly not euro-bashing, it's pointing out hypocrisy. Clearly. And I never said the mods were out to get me.


Then how were you misrepresented? The post was/is right there, for everyone to see and make their own judgement on.

Because I never said the mods were out to get me, and I never used this ban as an example of mods being out to get me. That's 2 misrepresentations there.


You did do your fair share of quibbling about some unnamed mod bearing a grudge against you. And I think what jasper meant to do was simply to point out how wrong you were about one of your own bans.

How am I wrong? Do you honestly interpret that post to be "stereotypical euro-bashing"? Do you honestly not see the point I am trying to make with that post?

I happen to think that ban was justified


How about these posts?

+ Show Spoiler +
On April 24 2011 04:32 SaviorSelf wrote:

On April 23 2011 08:20 frontline wrote:
Typical BS United States :/

fixed, for accuracy

On April 23 2011 08:43 Hypemeup wrote:
USA #1!
USA #1!
USA #1!

This is just sad

On April 23 2011 09:12 Project Psycho wrote:
well theres nothing like the land of the free, eh?

On April 23 2011 09:30 Roggay wrote:
Wow, the law is pretty fucked up in the US. Well, not that I didnt knew that but still.
It seems that the school system is a shame to begin with in the US. Poor people > bad schools, rich people > good schools, caught wanting your son a better school and you are not rich > 20years jail. Way to go america.

On April 23 2011 10:37 HansMoleman wrote:
The land of the free....

On April 23 2011 12:05 chaosfreak11 wrote:
Even china has better laws


On April 23 2011 21:41 Roeder wrote:
On April 23 2011 21:24 BlackFlag wrote:
Europe isn't that much better.

Yes. Yes it is.

Actually it's much better.

On April 24 2011 02:14 Coraz wrote:
only a wicked society goes after homeless people and widows and kicks them while they are down

On April 24 2011 05:53 ZessiM wrote:
The lack of empathy for the poor in the United States is staggering.

On April 24 2011 04:34 Kukaracha wrote:
Rosa Parks should've played by the rules, don't you think? That nigger ain't have the rite' to sit dow' on mah bus!

On June 06 2011 18:44 DavidMcF wrote:
At least Obama is trying to drag America into civilisation

Rushingwolf June 08 2011 05:43. Posts 47 PM Profile Quote #
people and especially police in the united states are quite trigger happy


The point wasn't whether the ban can be justified, the point is whether its consistent with the rest of moderation.


I urge you to trust me when I say that self-control is the least problem. There is nothing in my body which voices the tiniest amount of concern when I insult you, it comes as naturally as breathing.

As for all those US bashing posts, I've already said that arguing with you isn't something worth doing. I realize that leaves us at a dead end, and I am more than happy with this resolution.
memes are a dish best served dank
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:34:06
November 16 2012 20:33 GMT
#432
On November 17 2012 05:27 semantics wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 17 2012 05:26 corumjhaelen wrote:
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.

Is this a test?

thought the same thing, lol

edit: someone reported it, so we will see.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:38:58
November 16 2012 20:35 GMT
#433
On November 17 2012 05:02 JingleHell wrote:
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On November 17 2012 04:49 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
On June 08 2011 04:31 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Banning movies from a country now?

lol, and they call themselves the land of the free and the home....

Oh wait, never mind, this is Europe. Time to put on my rose colored glasses.

User was temp banned for this post.

This is what jd was banned for that he claims is not euro bashing, I think that ends this round of the mods are out to get me.

Please stop misrepresenting my statements. Thank you.


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On November 17 2012 03:41 jdseemoreglass wrote:
Maybe his argument wasn't that gays are specifically a risk to children. Maybe his argument is that gay males are a greater risk to male children than straight males to male children. Is that homophobic?

I was banned once for "euro-bashing" when it was clear to any objective observer that was not what I was doing. My courteous PM to the mod was completely ignored, and the thread I made in website feedback didn't help because they didn't like my "tone" in criticizing moderation.


Uhm, no, reading it in context the most obvious implication is that people wrongly worship the ground Europe walks on.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231206#5

There's the thread.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=231975#1

Your feedback thread, where you basically admit you were at least being rude, because you felt moderation was being handled poorly, which leaves you with violations even if your defense is taken as 100% true.

And if you don't remember saying the mods were trying to get you personally, check your own posts in this thread. I've felt that way before, but I don't go retracting it when there's inconvenient evidence the other way.

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On November 17 2012 04:56 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:46 JingleHell wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:42 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:31 JingleHell wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:27 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:21 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:10 dAPhREAk wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:06 KwarK wrote:
On November 17 2012 04:00 dAPhREAk wrote:
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of course it doesnt follow, but adult heterosexual females have sex with underage males, adult heterosexual males have sex with underage females. this includes children put in the trust of the adults (e.g., students). thus, people dont want them around their children (just in case, because that .001% likelihood is just too much for some people). if you dont agree, then tell them how lame their argument is, dont ban it.

In the context of it being a popular homophobic slur I don't think the "maybe he just meant that the 0.001% more chance was too much for him to handle" argument holds any water. He meant exactly what he said, that gays can't be trusted near children because everyone knows gays rape kids.

actually, i wasnt referring to the guy's specific post. i was stating that the argument should be allowed.

with respect to the guy who used "prancing," i have already said it appeared he was being homophobic. his subsequent PMs and posts did not help his case.

If you made that argument in a logically consistent way that didn't start by singling out gays as child molesters but instead attempted to protect children by identifying the groups more likely to molest children and then backed it up with evidence rather than just "I reckon gays think the right gender is pretty much close enough" then sure, you can argue that it gets a clear. Of course including any "surely they're more likely to rape children of the gender they're attracted to" assumptions leaves you open to "but everyone knows Catholic priests molest boys so we should only bar religious ones, atheist gays are in the clear" and the entire thing becomes nonsense. You'd need to actually demonstrate your conclusions. Furthermore the orientation of those singled out couldn't be the only category, for example old gay people may (hypothetically) be less likely to molest children than straight younger people, if the purpose was really to identify which specific groups were a higher risk then starting by only looking at gays would build it on homophobic foundations.

But that argument could be done in an acceptable manner in theory.

seems fine with me. not sure why everyone is so ban happy. if the person's opinion is stupid then point it out as stupid.


If he does that, you get what this thread was originally about, we come full circle, and KwarK cries into his beer at the Whineyception.

The only way to satisfy the rabid mob would be for KwarK to suffer the same punishment as Prometheus, and allow anyone to post anything they wanted. Maybe. Except then they'd find something else. Probably a conspiracy by the US Government to use the TL.net Bot to implement gun control via CIA mind probes.

with respect to your first point, kwark doesnt have to post anything. so, if he chooses to post and does so in a manner that someone considers "passive-aggressive" then he has to deal with the consequences. there are other mods who post in the general forums and dont get multiple website feedback threads brought against them.

with respect to your second "point," . . . .


My first point is that people complain about KwarK no matter how he goes about getting involved in a thread, and he's rather got me impressed at how he can be too aggressive and dictatorial while being so horribly passive aggressive.

My second point is that people love to complain about KwarK, when he's the primary reason the General forum stays down to mild levels of cesspool.

i fail to see how either of those points relate to the issue kwark and i were discussing. i want to tell half the tl.net population that they are retards, and i get warnings saying "just dont post." well, kwark, "just dont post."


If he doesn't post, and just uses mod notes and mod powers, we get complaints about him stifling discussion with his mod powers.

on a somewhat unrelated note, i actually think kwark likes these threads. it allows him the opportunity to call everyone retards and insult them. =) he seems to be enjoying himself.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
November 16 2012 20:36 GMT
#434
On November 17 2012 05:28 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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On November 17 2012 05:26 corumjhaelen wrote:
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.

I took your advice. Now we wait. :p

I dismissed the report for this post as this entire topic is a moderation writeoff in my opinion. If you would like a second opinion though then feel free to contact any other mod (Falling was active in this topic earlier).

On an unrelated note I also saw a report for this while I was there
On November 16 2012 12:00 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
it's a shame, that house was the bomb

and actually gave it a pass because if I moderated him for that then I'd have to hand you one for this
On November 17 2012 02:55 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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On November 16 2012 12:00 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
it's a shame, that house was the bomb

Oh boy, here come the puns! This will be a blast.

and then there would be no end to your complaining in this topic.
Consider yourself warned regarding that, just thought I'd give you some mod transparency there.
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jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-16 20:41:58
November 16 2012 20:38 GMT
#435
On November 17 2012 05:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
jd, due to your abl posting i am biased in your favor, but you have driven off every single person inclined ideologically to defend you, due to your insistence that mods are out to get you. You have a bad moderation history, and your reap what you sow. I would much rather side with you than some of the people attacking you, but you make it really hard.

This is the absolute last time I'm going to respond to this claim. I never once said that the mods were out to get me. What I said is that personal bias and emotion can come into moderation, which is undeniable. That is precisely what you yourself are admitting, that your view of me in your mind is painting your response to my posts or arguments in an unreasonably negative fashion. I have never said there is a conspiracy or mods out to get me.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 16 2012 20:40 GMT
#436
On November 17 2012 05:36 KwarK wrote:
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On November 17 2012 05:28 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:26 corumjhaelen wrote:
Report bannable posts.
Also you are a retard.

I took your advice. Now we wait. :p

I dismissed the report for this post as this entire topic is a moderation writeoff in my opinion. If you would like a second opinion though then feel free to contact any other mod (Falling was active in this topic earlier).

On an unrelated note I also saw a report for this while I was there
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On November 16 2012 12:00 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
it's a shame, that house was the bomb

and actually gave it a pass because if I moderated him for that then I'd have to hand you one for this
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On November 17 2012 02:55 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 16 2012 12:00 LaSt)ChAnCe wrote:
it's a shame, that house was the bomb

Oh boy, here come the puns! This will be a blast.

and then there would be no end to your complaining in this topic.
Consider yourself warned regarding that, just thought I'd give you some mod transparency there.

Why would you moderate him for that in the first place? I've seen dozens of times a string of pun jokes in a thread without warnings.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
JingleHell
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States11308 Posts
November 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#437
On November 17 2012 05:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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On November 17 2012 05:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
jd, due to your abl posting i am biased in your favor, but you have driven off every single person inclined ideologically to defend you, due to your insistence that mods are out to get you. You have a bad moderation history, and your reap what you sow. I would much rather side with you than some of the people attacking you, but you make it really hard.

This is the absolute last time I'm going to respond to this claim. I never once said that the mods were out to get me. What I said is that personal bias and emotion can come into moderation, which is undeniable. That is precisely what you yourself are admitting, that your view of me in your mind is painting your response to my posts or arguments in an unreasonably negative fashion. I have never said there is a conspiracy or mods out to get me.


On November 15 2012 14:11 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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On November 15 2012 14:02 KwarK wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:58 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:41 xDaunt wrote:
Honestly, the politics threads are so unevenly (and sometimes horrifically) moderated that I'm rather disinclined to continue posting in them. The double standard is ridiculous.

Thanks for having the guts to admit this openly. Glad I'm not alone in thinking this.

This is website feedback, you can say pretty much whatever you like in here and not get banned. Feel free to call us godless liberals if you want.

The flipside of this is that I can be more than usually blunt in addressing your concerns, the freedom to be frank with each other goes both ways.

I'm pretty sure a number of the bans I have gotten are directly related to the grudge some people have held due to a website feedback thread I made regarding double standards. I would actually advise anyone against giving their honest feedback about moderation on this site. I've seen other people receive harsher moderation too after making threads in website feedback. That's just my honest opinion, you can tell me I am wrong, but I see what people get away with around here and the things I have been banned for, and they are not consistent to say the least.


What do you call this?
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States42957 Posts
November 16 2012 20:43 GMT
#438
On November 17 2012 05:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
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On November 17 2012 05:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
jd, due to your abl posting i am biased in your favor, but you have driven off every single person inclined ideologically to defend you, due to your insistence that mods are out to get you. You have a bad moderation history, and your reap what you sow. I would much rather side with you than some of the people attacking you, but you make it really hard.

This is the absolute last time I'm going to respond to this claim. I never once said that the mods were ought to get me. What I said is that personal bias and emotion can come into moderation, which is undeniable. That is precisely what you yourself are admitting, that your view of me in your mind is painting your response to my posts or arguments in an unreasonably negative fashion. I have never said there is a conspiracy or mods out to get me.

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On November 15 2012 16:10 jdseemoreglass wrote:
I've seen that sort of "discussion" myself. I've received ridiculous bans before, and when someone questioned them in ABL they received the stock answer "he's got history you don't know" and they are forced to be content with that. It's not a matter of calling out the mods in particular, it's about being harsher on people they don't like, for whatever reason. In my own case it started with criticism of moderation, I noticed an immediate change after that.

you claim that the mods have gotten you with unreasonable bans and that they do it because they are harsher on people they don't like and that you are someone that the mods don't like which all started when you criticised moderation.

My reading of this is that you believe that the mods collectively do not like you because you criticised moderation and have subsequently been harsher on you (and anyone else they don't like). You also think some of the bans given to you were ridiculous (presumably examples of this persecution).
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
jdseemoreglass
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States3773 Posts
November 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#439
On November 17 2012 05:43 JingleHell wrote:
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On November 17 2012 05:38 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 17 2012 05:32 Jaaaaasper wrote:
jd, due to your abl posting i am biased in your favor, but you have driven off every single person inclined ideologically to defend you, due to your insistence that mods are out to get you. You have a bad moderation history, and your reap what you sow. I would much rather side with you than some of the people attacking you, but you make it really hard.

This is the absolute last time I'm going to respond to this claim. I never once said that the mods were out to get me. What I said is that personal bias and emotion can come into moderation, which is undeniable. That is precisely what you yourself are admitting, that your view of me in your mind is painting your response to my posts or arguments in an unreasonably negative fashion. I have never said there is a conspiracy or mods out to get me.


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On November 15 2012 14:11 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 15 2012 14:02 KwarK wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:58 jdseemoreglass wrote:
On November 15 2012 13:41 xDaunt wrote:
Honestly, the politics threads are so unevenly (and sometimes horrifically) moderated that I'm rather disinclined to continue posting in them. The double standard is ridiculous.

Thanks for having the guts to admit this openly. Glad I'm not alone in thinking this.

This is website feedback, you can say pretty much whatever you like in here and not get banned. Feel free to call us godless liberals if you want.

The flipside of this is that I can be more than usually blunt in addressing your concerns, the freedom to be frank with each other goes both ways.

I'm pretty sure a number of the bans I have gotten are directly related to the grudge some people have held due to a website feedback thread I made regarding double standards. I would actually advise anyone against giving their honest feedback about moderation on this site. I've seen other people receive harsher moderation too after making threads in website feedback. That's just my honest opinion, you can tell me I am wrong, but I see what people get away with around here and the things I have been banned for, and they are not consistent to say the least.


What do you call this?

What I said is that personal bias and emotion can come into moderation, which is undeniable.
"If you want this forum to be full of half-baked philosophy discussions between pompous faggots like yourself forever, stay the course captain vanilla" - FakeSteve[TPR], 2006
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34493 Posts
November 16 2012 20:44 GMT
#440
Game, set, match.

on a somewhat unrelated note, i actually think kwark likes these threads. it allows him the opportunity to call everyone retards and insult them. =) he seems to be enjoying himself.

You have no idea.
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