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On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote: MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins. That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making.
no it was micro, from the initial defense, to the 4gate defense, to the 2 base defense with the FFs, and the final engagement at the watch tower it was ALL micro.
MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP
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On June 12 2011 18:54 blah_blah wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:53 Kira__ wrote: he didn't actually gg, he just wanted a pause. He won that game.
Clearly writing 'gg' in chat doesn't mean what it used to. Obviously he won the game, it's still ridiculous that they played it out.
ive seen people type gg at the start of the game instead of gl, should they stop the game right there too?
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On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote: MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins. That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making. Yeah, failing a cannon rush, letting him getting up an expansion and get like 30 supply ahead... great decision making.
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On June 12 2011 18:55 Caesarion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:53 Kira__ wrote:On June 12 2011 18:52 blah_blah wrote:On June 12 2011 18:50 Kira__ wrote:On June 12 2011 18:49 blah_blah wrote: Wow, lovecd is a joke take a look at the bracket to see which players he went through. He is obviously a very good player, but there were at least 3 spots in that game where MC gifted him an absolutely dominant position, and he completely squandered it every time. Then add the GG in game 2 to that. he didn't actually gg, he just wanted a pause. He won that game. What do you mean? He typed "gg", isn't that universal for .. gg.
He's chinese. I think the fact that he paused instead of leaving should be more telling of his intentions.
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when did he say that he's ont tilt?
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On June 12 2011 18:55 Frugalicious wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:53 cheesemaster wrote: Lovecd making lag excuses after losing emberrasingly that last game. If you are watching both the streams, there appears to be some skipping (lag) occurring, but not enough for there to be a lag window to be shown. As for the delay, pretty impossible to see from a spectator's POV. So it is at least indicative that their connection isn't perfect. Yea i was mostly joking, im sure hes lagging, it must be something wrong with his computer though if MC is fine and they are on the same connection.
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I wonder what their APM was, anyone watching the Chinese stream ? Some guy said MC and XiaoT hit 400APM during one of their fights yesterday, would be nice to see what LoveCD is like.
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On June 12 2011 18:55 ChickenLips wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote: MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins. That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making. no it was micro, from the initial defense, to the 4gate defense, to the 2 base defense with the FFs, and the final engagement at the watch tower it was ALL micro. MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP I didn't watch the entire game but the final battles weren't about micro whatsoever, MC had a better concave, better upgrades and better army organization and that was it, period.
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On June 12 2011 18:56 cheesemaster wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:55 Frugalicious wrote:On June 12 2011 18:53 cheesemaster wrote: Lovecd making lag excuses after losing emberrasingly that last game. If you are watching both the streams, there appears to be some skipping (lag) occurring, but not enough for there to be a lag window to be shown. As for the delay, pretty impossible to see from a spectator's POV. So it is at least indicative that their connection isn't perfect. Yea i was mostly joking, im sure hes lagging, it must be something wrong with his computer though if MC is fine and they are on the same connection.
Oddly enough, this has happen between Jinro and MC in this tournament. Jinro had lag issues while playing with MC, both playing in the same area.
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On June 12 2011 18:57 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:55 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote: MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins. That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making. no it was micro, from the initial defense, to the 4gate defense, to the 2 base defense with the FFs, and the final engagement at the watch tower it was ALL micro. MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP I didn't watch the entire game and the final battles wasn't about micro whatsoever, MC had a better concave, better upgrades and better army organization and that was it, period.
Actually they were both at even upgrades during the battles, mc only had the upgrade advantage during the downtime
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On June 12 2011 18:58 Frugalicious wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:56 cheesemaster wrote:On June 12 2011 18:55 Frugalicious wrote:On June 12 2011 18:53 cheesemaster wrote: Lovecd making lag excuses after losing emberrasingly that last game. If you are watching both the streams, there appears to be some skipping (lag) occurring, but not enough for there to be a lag window to be shown. As for the delay, pretty impossible to see from a spectator's POV. So it is at least indicative that their connection isn't perfect. Yea i was mostly joking, im sure hes lagging, it must be something wrong with his computer though if MC is fine and they are on the same connection. Oddly enough, this has happen between Jinro and MC in this tournament. Jinro had lag issues while playing with MC, both playing in the same area. but they were playing on the chinese server in korea, so that sounds more plausible.
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lmfao pinnacle didn't turn off the betting for this final o_o
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So by the way, is love a team or clan?
i know wegiga is the sponsored team but O_o
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On June 12 2011 18:55 Caesarion wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:53 Kira__ wrote:On June 12 2011 18:52 blah_blah wrote:On June 12 2011 18:50 Kira__ wrote:On June 12 2011 18:49 blah_blah wrote: Wow, lovecd is a joke take a look at the bracket to see which players he went through. He is obviously a very good player, but there were at least 3 spots in that game where MC gifted him an absolutely dominant position, and he completely squandered it every time. Then add the GG in game 2 to that. he didn't actually gg, he just wanted a pause. He won that game. What do you mean? He typed "gg", isn't that universal for .. gg.
Considering how he paused right after he typed it, I don't see why you would assume anything other than the fact that he just wanted the pause, regardless of what he typed.
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On June 12 2011 18:57 TYJ.Aoy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:55 ChickenLips wrote:On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote: MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins. That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making. no it was micro, from the initial defense, to the 4gate defense, to the 2 base defense with the FFs, and the final engagement at the watch tower it was ALL micro. MC has said it himself, the one with better micro wins win PvP I didn't watch the entire game but the final battles weren't about micro whatsoever, MC had a better concave, better upgrades and better army organization and that was it, period. ....... you do realize that top level players don't just 1 a and just use a few abilities right? there's a lot of target firing, blinking, and obviously positioning like you said and that IS micro; both these guys are going at 300 legitimate apm in those fights
there were so many times that game where MC outmicro'd lovecd REALLY hard when he had a worse army
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On June 12 2011 18:56 Dommk wrote:I wonder what their APM was, anyone watching the Chinese stream ? Some guy said MC and XiaoT hit 400APM during one of their fights yesterday, would be nice to see what LoveCD is like.
Yep, I said that, but that was only the peak APM. Average was around 300 for MC and 200 for XiaoT. They keep throwing up the APM tab on the chinese stream, apparently they seem to make a big deal of it.
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On June 12 2011 18:56 Fanta_Rules wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 18:54 TYJ.Aoy wrote:On June 12 2011 18:53 Fanta_Rules wrote: MC's micro is superior, that's why he wins. That wasn't nearly as much micro as it was decision making. Yeah, failing a cannon rush, letting him getting up an expansion and get like 30 supply ahead... great decision making. You act like it is easy. PvP is the one match up where both sides have the least information on each other. The map is quite literally dark, your only source of information is whatever unit you can sneak and having amazing game sense and knowledge. Making the right decision in PvP is one of the hardest things to do.
You list off dot points and act as if any other Protoss could have done better, its hilarious.
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On June 12 2011 18:56 Dommk wrote:I wonder what their APM was, anyone watching the Chinese stream ? Some guy said MC and XiaoT hit 400APM during one of their fights yesterday, would be nice to see what LoveCD is like.
MC tends to hover around 250-300 in fights and lovecd is 150-200.
They both have the occasional spikes to 300+, but in general that's where they stay around in fights.
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