On February 14 2011 20:52 yoonyoon wrote:
Make a different thread to argue about this and watch Magikarp instead =]
Make a different thread to argue about this and watch Magikarp instead =]
yeah magikarp tearing shit up
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radialis
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On February 14 2011 20:52 yoonyoon wrote: Make a different thread to argue about this and watch Magikarp instead =] yeah magikarp tearing shit up | ||
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DarkMatter_
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On February 14 2011 20:50 Musou wrote: Show nested quote + On February 14 2011 20:44 Ryo wrote: On February 14 2011 20:42 TwoToneTerran wrote: On February 14 2011 20:39 swanized wrote: On February 14 2011 20:33 Holgerius wrote: On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5. Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias. Light's TvZ pre-2010 was not nearly as consistent as it is now so if you're going to look at a career winrate of course Flash's is higher. Flash actually has a much better winrate vZ for 2010 than Light does if you exclude Effort, who seemed to have some uncanny knack for taking Flash out from being one of his top practice partners, even though his ZvT was not that great overall. And why exactly would we do that? Although, I'll still say that Flash's vZ stats from 2010 are more impressive considering he faced JD in 4 Bo5s. | ||
TwoToneTerran
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hauton
Hong Kong743 Posts
On February 14 2011 20:39 Ryo wrote: Light is better at bio and Flash is better at Mech. But like I pointed out in my Light writeup, the loss against Kwanro at Nate was the turning point, since then Light's TvZ in the past year is at 79%. From 8 Jan 2010 to now, Light's TvZ is 76.92%: 40 wins - 12 losses Same timeframe, Flash is 70.00%: 42 wins - 18 losses Considering your cutoff is exactly after Light got 3-0'd by Kwanro, that 76.92% is more like 72.73%. Flash gets a slightly bump to 70.31% given the revised date. As for Light's supposed vZ dominance in team leagues, his vZ winrate is actually lower than Flash given the aforementioned cutoff. 83.87% (26-5) vs 86.96% (20-3). | ||
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Tianx
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Light's gathering wraiths. Hiya has more of the map and is grabbing expansions, but he looks spread thin. | ||
tabula rasa
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On February 14 2011 20:42 DarkMatter_ wrote: Show nested quote + On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite... Jaedong losing to S-class players in PL is nothing new. Even in 2010, I don't think he ever beat Light/Flash/Stork/Bisu in PL but that still didn't stop him from clearly being the 2nd best player. holy shit, i just looked up jaedong's pl and sl records against bisu and stork: vs. bisu/stork in PL: 1-13 vs. bisu/stork in SL: 18-10 jaedong has never lost a series against either player except during wcg | ||
letian
Germany4221 Posts
On February 14 2011 20:55 TwoToneTerran wrote: I'm gonna stop arguing about Light vs Flash in TvZ. I've really got nothing to prove, sorry for derailing guys. I just see the "Light #1 TvZ comments" and it gets my blood boiling. It's fantasy TvP all over again! It's okay though, I'll live. Ok,ok nobody saying he is #1, its all about one particular part of his TvZ game like mm managing, today his game was, fucking awesome, I was disappointed by JD, but still Light was waay too good | ||
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Light finds Hiya's dropships and noms them all up. Man, Light is good at TvT. | ||
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