game 1 - winner wins in pretty convincing fashion, watch if you hav etime game 2 - not so great. game 3 was pretty fun. set 4 sick stuff by winner. nice and quick game set 5 decent game, nothing that special though set 6 nothing special, just your average [insert matchup here (due to spoiler issues )] here set 7 lol...seriously?
It's kinda sad to see these BW matches get so little attention nowadays, especially considering that these streams and threads are being made last-minute and stuff.
Oh well. It is a late hour to be up and awake in the US...
Then again, a Jaedong AK after losing to Hydra in MSL would be quite refreshing. Probably as refreshing as watching Stork get his revenge against Fantasy in the post-OSL Proleague match. Hopefully, the Dong will not disappoint.
[edit] nvm about the streams question. Thanks Sins!
they would never do that, they wouldnt start until they picked the right race, but i imagine if somehow there was a mistake they'd just remake the game as nothing would be lost
Im pretty sure that happened once. Was a while ago (within last year) but someone chose the wrong race just before game launched and they had to restart lolol.
I'm assuming that's Jaedong (though I'm probably wrong), so does it mean he's not playing tonight?
In that case, Hiya has this ezpz.
Don´t know, doesn´t look like Jaedong in my eyes... And the decision itself would not be clever since I feel even having Jaedong on the team bench may be a moral boost for the team.
I'm assuming that's Jaedong (though I'm probably wrong), so does it mean he's not playing tonight?
In that case, Hiya has this ezpz.
Don´t know, doesn´t look like Jaedong in my eyes... And the decision itself would not be clever since I feel even having Jaedong on the team bench may be a moral boost for the team.
that is definitely savior
or a clever body double trained to handle assassination attempts
Killer attacks Jaehoons fourth and destroys it. That was critical for Jaehoon I feel... On the other hand, he restarts the nexus immediatly and is still on three to four bases for Killer
That was a really good game by killer. Jaehoon played pretty well, but Killer's defense was always up just in time and he kept Jaehoon busy for long periods with cheap units despite the large protoss army. Good micro, excellent choices. Fun game to watch overall.
I'm assuming that's Jaedong (though I'm probably wrong), so does it mean he's not playing tonight?
In that case, Hiya has this ezpz.
I thought it looked like Savior when I posted it lol
He's a Savior look-alike. In January he came to a match and people got excited, but after they posted side shots, people came to the conclusion that it wasn't him.
On February 14 2011 19:05 pylonsalad wrote: Games like this show why Sea doesn't get far in starleagues. He's barely beat a very mediocre zerg. He would be outmatched vs most A-class zergs.
Er no. Sea's TvZ this season has been shaky compared to previous seasons.
Lurker gets dropped just before overlord dies, but doesn't burrow for about 10 seconds. It finally burrows right next to some tanks but dies almost instantly.
Sea brings all his forces to defend the 6' base but JD is running him over with ultra/hydra/ling and swarms/plagues all over the tanks from a different path after he fails to break the defense.
I bet Light's smiling happily on the inside now and rubbing his hands together gleefully. Now he just has to wait for his other teammates to fall to the Dong.
On February 14 2011 19:41 hifriend wrote: Wtf is the audience like 75% female today?
Isn't that about normal for PL games?
Dunno I've been off bw for so long. Typically there would be a couple of girls and the camera men would be creepy and film the few girls over and over making them feel super awkward.
On February 14 2011 19:20 Holgerius wrote: Sea is being quite passive in this game.
Yeah. Kind of hard to, you know, be not passive with mech vs z. The slowest vs the fastest unit combination against each other
I actually wrote that before he switched. He made no attempt to pressure before mutas, and then he made quite a lof of turrets. He was playing defensive from the beginning, even with his bio.
On February 14 2011 19:46 Art.FeeL wrote: I hope the elimination of Jaedong from both leagues, will trigger his inner monster to rise and show us once more who is the tyrant. Go Jaedong!
As long as that inner monster means more wins without broken keyboards.
On February 14 2011 19:46 Art.FeeL wrote: I hope the elimination of Jaedong from both leagues, will trigger his inner monster to rise and show us once more who is the tyrant. Go Jaedong!
Watching the contrast between this game and Sea vs Action, wow, just wow. It just highlights how easily Action should have won that game if he hadn't played like an idiot.
On February 14 2011 19:46 sixfour wrote: what the hell was that msl final advert about
The MSL staff are making fun of themselves for making a "fail" finals with some Zerg vs. some Zerg again. And great's all like, "Don't be depressed man. It might be interesting."
Btw, what was the Hydra commercial like? Was it like the same thing?
On February 14 2011 19:46 sixfour wrote: what the hell was that msl final advert about
The MSL staff are making fun of themselves for making a "fail" finals with some Zerg vs. some Zerg again. And great's all like, "Don't be depressed man. It might be interesting."
Btw, what was the Hydra commercial like? Was it like the same thing?
Similar beginning but instead MSL PD goes into a lift. Lift door opens at the next floor and Hydra gives PD a hug.
On February 14 2011 19:46 sixfour wrote: what the hell was that msl final advert about
The MSL staff are making fun of themselves for making a "fail" finals with some Zerg vs. some Zerg again. And great's all like, "Don't be depressed man. It might be interesting."
Btw, what was the Hydra commercial like? Was it like the same thing?
Similar beginning but instead MSL PD goes into a lift. Lift door opens at the next floor and Hydra gives PD a hug.
On February 14 2011 19:46 sixfour wrote: what the hell was that msl final advert about
The MSL staff are making fun of themselves for making a "fail" finals with some Zerg vs. some Zerg again. And great's all like, "Don't be depressed man. It might be interesting."
Btw, what was the Hydra commercial like? Was it like the same thing?
Similar beginning but instead MSL PD goes into a lift. Lift door opens at the next floor and Hydra gives PD a hug.
Ahahah, I see I see, he's all like, "Thanks for letting me be able to go to the finals! :D" then. I gotta see that. XD
And a male fan holding up a sign in the audience: "Do you think I can get a girlfriend if I ask that bear doll?" GO FOR IT, MAN.
On February 14 2011 19:46 sixfour wrote: what the hell was that msl final advert about
The MSL staff are making fun of themselves for making a "fail" finals with some Zerg vs. some Zerg again. And great's all like, "Don't be depressed man. It might be interesting."
Btw, what was the Hydra commercial like? Was it like the same thing?
Similar beginning but instead MSL PD goes into a lift. Lift door opens at the next floor and Hydra gives PD a hug.
Ahahah, I see I see, he's all like, "Thanks for letting me be able to go to the finals! :D" then. I gotta see that. XD
And a male fan holding up a sign in the audience: "Do you think I can get a girlfriend if I ask that bear doll?" GO FOR IT, MAN.
More like Hydra was consoling him. There was a pat on the shoulder (like Great's) before the hug.
On February 14 2011 19:46 sixfour wrote: what the hell was that msl final advert about
The MSL staff are making fun of themselves for making a "fail" finals with some Zerg vs. some Zerg again. And great's all like, "Don't be depressed man. It might be interesting."
Btw, what was the Hydra commercial like? Was it like the same thing?
Similar beginning but instead MSL PD goes into a lift. Lift door opens at the next floor and Hydra gives PD a hug.
Ahahah, I see I see, he's all like, "Thanks for letting me be able to go to the finals! :D" then. I gotta see that. XD
And a male fan holding up a sign in the audience: "Do you think I can get a girlfriend if I ask that bear doll?" GO FOR IT, MAN.
More like Hydra was consoling him. There was a pat on the shoulder (like Great's) before the hug.
On February 14 2011 19:59 Cpadolf wrote: Haha, massive fucking baller. Great to see that his loss against Hydra doesn't seem to have fazed him too much :D
Yeah, talk about bouncing back fast. :D That game was made of pure win. JD is a herooooo!
Yeah, I was like, "Hyun, how did you get so cocky here against the Dong?!??" but then I realized my fail too late. D; Whoopsies, but Jaedong, that was cocky indeed.
On February 14 2011 20:12 radialis wrote: 9-3 tvz? never knew light was that good at tvz... he's still 15-14 overall lol
I guess you should watch his games against JD then, he is a monster of mm force, and yes, Light is better than Flash imho, when it comes to pure bio macro in TvZ. Its just he is not that consistent maybe
On February 14 2011 20:12 radialis wrote: 9-3 tvz? never knew light was that good at tvz... he's still 15-14 overall lol
I guess you should watch his games against JD then, he is a monster of mm force, and yes, Light is better than Flash imho, when it comes to pure bio macro in TvZ. Its just he is not that consistent maybe
I'd say Flash has just as good bio control and macro as Light. I don't think either of them can really be considered better. Flash has much better vessel control against scourge, though. If you watch Flash's bio TvZ, they rarely get to late game now because he just continually denies the zerg expos with multiple drops and pressure.
On February 14 2011 20:20 Holgerius wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that Light is better than Flash at anything.
He has really sick MnM play though, and I'd definitely hold him as #2 in the world at TvZ.
Ver says it best.
However, Flash is not Light. Brilliant as he is in every other aspect, Flash lacks the multitasking ability, the sense of timing, and the overall understanding of how to play in the positions Light finds most comfortable: aggressive 3 base lategame positions. Clearly Jaedong understood Flash's weakness and managed to force the latter into a position he was very uncomfortable in, just as Flash had done to him with his original midgame strategy.
However, Flash is not Light. Brilliant as he is in every other aspect, Flash lacks the multitasking ability, the sense of timing, and the overall understanding of how to play in the positions Light finds most comfortable: aggressive 3 base lategame positions. Clearly Jaedong understood Flash's weakness and managed to force the latter into a position he was very uncomfortable in, just as Flash had done to him with his original midgame strategy.
That was written before Flash began godmode last year. If you watch his more recent TvZ bio games, it's nothing like that. He's literally everywhere on the map with his starsense and multitasking.
Light sneaks 2 dropships full of marines into JD's main and starts demolishing all his tech. JD barely manages to save his Queen's Nest and Pool with a quick plague and hydra reinforcements.
On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite...
i would hardly call light "elite", but yeah i've noticed JD hasn't beaten a really good player in months
Light is TvZ elite, so this sentenence is true. Zero has beaten Light not long ago. JD ist consistent not to lose to scrubs, but against the best he is not capable of nowadays.
On February 14 2011 20:20 Holgerius wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that Light is better than Flash at anything.
He has really sick MnM play though, and I'd definitely hold him as #2 in the world at TvZ.
Ver says it best.
However, Flash is not Light. Brilliant as he is in every other aspect, Flash lacks the multitasking ability, the sense of timing, and the overall understanding of how to play in the positions Light finds most comfortable: aggressive 3 base lategame positions. Clearly Jaedong understood Flash's weakness and managed to force the latter into a position he was very uncomfortable in, just as Flash had done to him with his original midgame strategy.
That was written before Flash began godmode last year. If you watch his more recent TvZ bio games, it's nothing like that. He's literally everywhere on the map with his starsense and multitasking.
...He wrote that in his recap/analysis of Bigfile MSL.
JD's build ran along a wire's edge, going to four bases whilst relying on his muta fake to keep Terran in his base and wasting resources on turrets and such. When Light pushed out and took out JD's 4th before JD was ready for it, the game was already looking not so good for JD, you can't just blame it on "lol drops imba".
On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite...
i would hardly call light "elite", but yeah i've noticed JD hasn't beaten a really good player in months
In TvZ, Light is elite, no problem. As for Light/Flash, they have pretty different palystyle, but I'd say Light's standard lategame bio is better than Flash's. For the rest though...
On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite...
This is all so Fucking disappointing, its so called "inability" is just "veteran days and well earned rest are at the door". Sigh! first + Show Spoiler +
On February 14 2011 20:20 Holgerius wrote: I don't think it's fair to say that Light is better than Flash at anything.
He has really sick MnM play though, and I'd definitely hold him as #2 in the world at TvZ.
Ver says it best.
However, Flash is not Light. Brilliant as he is in every other aspect, Flash lacks the multitasking ability, the sense of timing, and the overall understanding of how to play in the positions Light finds most comfortable: aggressive 3 base lategame positions. Clearly Jaedong understood Flash's weakness and managed to force the latter into a position he was very uncomfortable in, just as Flash had done to him with his original midgame strategy.
That was written before Flash began godmode last year. If you watch his more recent TvZ bio games, it's nothing like that. He's literally everywhere on the map with his starsense and multitasking.
...He wrote that in his recap/analysis of Bigfile MSL.
How can you seriously argue this when Flash just beat Jaedong in two goddamn finals, where Light has never gotten past Jaedong in a series. Light is not as good as Flash at anything, especially not at lategame.
Light is better at bio and Flash is better at Mech. But like I pointed out in my Light writeup, the loss against Kwanro at Nate was the turning point, since then Light's TvZ in the past year is at 79%.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
You guys arguing how many angels can dance on a needle's head. Though they play different styles I would say Light and Flash are equal at TvZ. They are the favourite vs all zergs bar none. Light's play is more fun to watch though.
On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite...
Jaedong losing to S-class players in PL is nothing new. Even in 2010, I don't think he ever beat Light/Flash/Stork/Bisu in PL but that still didn't stop him from clearly being the 2nd best player.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
Light's TvZ pre-2010 was not nearly as consistent as it is now so if you're going to look at a career winrate of course Flash's is higher.
I'm just wondering how anyone can say Light has more raw skill than Flash. I thought it's been known for YEARS that Flash has more raw skill than any player in the game and it was just a matter of him applying him. That's what we saw last year when he literally won everything. I find it plain incomprehensible that you can say an older, less accomplished, less impressive player can be said to have more raw skill.
It's like how not too long ago people were saying Fantasy had the best TvP whenever he won an impressive game, and they'd give all these vague, unsupported reasons. Same with Skyhigh and TvT (this one is closer than others, though). It just doesn't make sense or hold any water, not when you look at individual games, how much they've accomplished in the matchups, innovated in the matchups, how well they play, nothing.
On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite...
Jaedong losing to S-class players in PL is nothing new. Even in 2010, I don't think he ever beat Light/Flash/Stork/Bisu in PL but that still didn't stop him from clearly being the 2nd best player.
Exactly this. I'm not sure why people seem to forget this but Jaedong has always got his PL wins mostly against lesser players and dominated in series play. His winrate against S-Class and many top A-class players in PL hasn't really ever been that good.
On February 14 2011 20:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: I'm just wondering how anyone can say Light has more raw skill than Flash. I thought it's been known for YEARS that Flash has more raw skill than any player in the game and it was just a matter of him applying him. That's what we saw last year when he literally won everything. I find it plain incomprehensible that you can say an older, less accomplished, less impressive player can be said to have more raw skill.
Oh give it a rest. People are allowed different opinions.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
one fairly well played game? have watched Light's TvZ in the last 6 months
On February 14 2011 20:46 TwoToneTerran wrote: I'm just wondering how anyone can say Light has more raw skill than Flash. I thought it's been known for YEARS that Flash has more raw skill than any player in the game and it was just a matter of him applying him. That's what we saw last year when he literally won everything. I find it plain incomprehensible that you can say an older, less accomplished, less impressive player can be said to have more raw skill.
Oh give it a rest. People are allowed different opinions.
Except for me, I guess? They voiced their opinion so I voice mine.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
oh come on, Stop your fanboyism, nobody is trying to hurt Flash TvZ dominance, ok? we just saying Light bio standart style is more impressive, and if you wont be lazy and watch some of his vs JD games you'll see it, Flash wins are due to his timing sence and, chit, overall game understanding is waaay better, but in mm he's just good, not something that makes you open your mouth.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
Light's TvZ pre-2010 was not nearly as consistent as it is now so if you're going to look at a career winrate of course Flash's is higher.
Flash actually has a much better winrate vZ for 2010 than Light does if you exclude Effort, who seemed to have some uncanny knack for taking Flash out from being one of his top practice partners, even though his ZvT was not that great overall.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
one fairly well played game? have watched Light's TvZ in the last 6 months
Yeah, and he's been absolutely less impressive than Flash. Didn't he lose to Gorush recently? (though Gorush played well that game iirc). He just...loses more often, to weaker and better opponents alike, and doesn't play at the same level Flash does. He's clearly the #2 TvZer, I just don't get how you can say he has more raw skill when that has been Flash's calling card for years.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
oh come on, Stop your fanboyism, nobody is trying to hurt Flash TvZ dominance, ok? we just saying Light bio standart style is more impressive, and if you wont be lazy and watch some of his vs JD games you'll see it, Flash wins are due to his timing sence and, chit, overall game understanding is waaay better, but in mm he's just good, not something that makes you open your mouth.
I wish I had saved Mr. Hoons gifs of Flash vs Lurkers. He has the most beautiful MnM micro.
Lone wraith takes out quite a bit and allows Light to push back, but Hiya's reinforcements show up and range upgrade kicks in just in time to snipe the wraith.
On February 14 2011 20:32 Elefanto wrote: light has the best tvz, sorry flash fans
I think it's somewhat fine to argue that he has the best MnM play, but a statement like this... nah. Come back when he can 3-0 JD in a Bo5.
Flash has incredible Bo5 preparation of course but light's raw TvZ skills are superior to Flash
No he isn't, Flash is a better TvZer in proleague, too. So, Flash is better in series play, in play where you don't know your opponent, in winrate, in elo, AND in gameplay (flash has flabbergasted us at everything for a year now, don't say Light is better because of one fairly well played game). There's absolutely nothing to prove that Light is the better TvZer other than bias.
Light's TvZ pre-2010 was not nearly as consistent as it is now so if you're going to look at a career winrate of course Flash's is higher.
Flash actually has a much better winrate vZ for 2010 than Light does if you exclude Effort, who seemed to have some uncanny knack for taking Flash out from being one of his top practice partners, even though his ZvT was not that great overall.
And why exactly would we do that?
Although, I'll still say that Flash's vZ stats from 2010 are more impressive considering he faced JD in 4 Bo5s.
I'm gonna stop arguing about Light vs Flash in TvZ. I've really got nothing to prove, sorry for derailing guys. I just see the "Light #1 TvZ comments" and it gets my blood boiling. It's fantasy TvP all over again! It's okay though, I'll live.
On February 14 2011 20:39 Ryo wrote: Light is better at bio and Flash is better at Mech. But like I pointed out in my Light writeup, the loss against Kwanro at Nate was the turning point, since then Light's TvZ in the past year is at 79%.
From 8 Jan 2010 to now, Light's TvZ is 76.92%: 40 wins - 12 losses
Same timeframe, Flash is 70.00%: 42 wins - 18 losses
Considering your cutoff is exactly after Light got 3-0'd by Kwanro, that 76.92% is more like 72.73%. Flash gets a slightly bump to 70.31% given the revised date.
As for Light's supposed vZ dominance in team leagues, his vZ winrate is actually lower than Flash given the aforementioned cutoff. 83.87% (26-5) vs 86.96% (20-3).
Light follows up a moderately effective vulture drop by pushing Hiya's tank line back. He's established position over 1/3 of the map, looks like it's anyone's game again.
On February 14 2011 20:33 flamewheel wrote: The continuation of Jaedong's inability to win against the other elite...
Jaedong losing to S-class players in PL is nothing new. Even in 2010, I don't think he ever beat Light/Flash/Stork/Bisu in PL but that still didn't stop him from clearly being the 2nd best player.
holy shit, i just looked up jaedong's pl and sl records against bisu and stork:
vs. bisu/stork in PL: 1-13 vs. bisu/stork in SL: 18-10
jaedong has never lost a series against either player except during wcg
On February 14 2011 20:55 TwoToneTerran wrote: I'm gonna stop arguing about Light vs Flash in TvZ. I've really got nothing to prove, sorry for derailing guys. I just see the "Light #1 TvZ comments" and it gets my blood boiling. It's fantasy TvP all over again! It's okay though, I'll live.
Ok,ok nobody saying he is #1, its all about one particular part of his TvZ game like mm managing, today his game was, fucking awesome, I was disappointed by JD, but still Light was waay too good
Don't really care about who's 1st or 2nd, i prefer light's bio tvz more and i prefer fantasy's tvp vulture harass more cause they appeal more to ne. Don't stop the lr-ing, im outside and i cant watch it
Hiya throws away all his wraiths into a pack of goliaths while trying to ambush Light's army from the side, but he makes another new fleet to snipe dropships and an ebay.
On February 14 2011 21:02 TwoToneTerran wrote: Hiya's got this sealed up with those wraiths. Light takes massive tank losses, has to make goliaths, and has no map presence.
Light takes out 11 and *immediately* plants his CC on the base's corpse. Hiya takes the opportunity to steal back a share of the center. After the dust settles, the map is split almost perfectly, with Light having a small edge.
Light does a huge drop on Hiya's 5 but Hiya cleans it up quickly. At the same time, he pushes the mid and sets up his line where Hiya previously had one.
Hiya does a huge drop on the 10.5 and 11 as Light tries to intercept it with his fleet of dropships, but has to back off. He puts the physics lab under pressure. Light decides to counter drop on Hiya's 5.5 and 6 bases.
Light tries to finish off 6 with his 2 BCs, but dropships come and deny it. He gets yamato off on 2 dropships and kills them both, but Hiya drops the center of the map. Light drops the 4 at the same time.
On February 14 2011 20:39 Ryo wrote: Light is better at bio and Flash is better at Mech. But like I pointed out in my Light writeup, the loss against Kwanro at Nate was the turning point, since then Light's TvZ in the past year is at 79%.
From 8 Jan 2010 to now, Light's TvZ is 76.92%: 40 wins - 12 losses
Same timeframe, Flash is 70.00%: 42 wins - 18 losses
Considering your cutoff is exactly after Light got 3-0'd by Kwanro, that 76.92% is more like 72.73%. Flash gets a slightly bump to 70.31% given the revised date.
As for Light's supposed vZ dominance in team leagues, his vZ winrate is actually lower than Flash given the aforementioned cutoff. 83.87% (26-5) vs 86.96% (20-3).
People don't want games to go very long and TvT has a tendency to have neither player willing to make a big drop attack and thus cause stalemates. I think it's mostly the length, though.
On February 14 2011 21:23 TwoToneTerran wrote: People don't want games to go very long and TvT has a tendency to have neither player willing to make a big drop attack and thus cause stalemates. I think it's mostly the length, though.
I don't quite get that tho.
Long games are often sooo good.
Well, I guess TvT is more about positioning and tactics than action packed. That's probably the reason.
Long TvT's are like chess matches. You put units in the right places, you win. We need more players like Turn to say: fuck it, I'm going to end the match in 5 minutes.
On February 14 2011 21:30 Holgerius wrote: It's pretty weird how some players can have such big difference in skill between two MU's as Light and his TvZ/TvP.
damn, I hate Light, I'm sorry to hurt somebody's feelings, but I hate this player on personal basis. There is something eerie about him, that I naturally don't like, and now, when he plays so well and kills my team, I hate him even more!
On February 14 2011 21:32 letian wrote: damn, I hate Light, I'm sorry to hurt somebody's feelings, but I hate this player on personal basis. There is something eerie about him, that I naturally don't like, and now, when he plays so well and kills my team, I hate him even more!
On February 14 2011 21:30 Holgerius wrote: It's pretty weird how some players can have such big difference in skill between two MU's as Light and his TvZ/TvP.
It's really not unusual, for players at every level. Bisu's PvZ vs. PvT, Fantasy's TvP vs. TvZ, and every mediocre zerg's ZvP vs. everything else. Different matchups take different skillsets.
the best part abt that match was when my stream lagged and 2 zeals + probe in Light's base suddenly turned into 2 dragoons + 2 zeals + 1 probe in his base :DDDD
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
I don't think they're being serious. At least I hope they aren't...
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
not 'people' 'person'
o lol i thoguht aimaimam quoted 'khersai' or something saying "so low" so i thoguht both of them thought the same thing
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
I was watching this alongside the stx vs ace. I watched the 6 match here and the 6 match on ace. Came back and the ace match was already over T_T. Figured that was how it was gonna go. Wear Light down with a ridiculously long standard TvT and then if he doesnt lose that, get up in his face with a strong rush. Props to Oz for using their match lead to their advantage.
On February 14 2011 21:44 Holgerius wrote: It seems to me that MBC's atmosphere when they lose is really really bad. Worse than other teams. O_o
Huh?
Like when Jaehoon came out all raging at someone after his loss vs Flash, and now Light seemed pretty damn annoyed too. And then you have this talk about a schism between Sea and Jaehoon. The atmosphere just doesn't seem good.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
On February 14 2011 21:44 Holgerius wrote: It seems to me that MBC's atmosphere when they lose is really really bad. Worse than other teams. O_o
Huh?
Like when Jaehoon came out all raging at someone after his loss vs Flash, and now Light seemed pretty damn annoyed too. The atmosphere just doesn't seem good.
Nah. Jaehoon's nickname is "gloom" and he's kind of under pressure as the new captain.
Light is pissed because he knows his TvP is holding him back from advancing further in individual leagues.
On February 14 2011 21:44 Holgerius wrote: It seems to me that MBC's atmosphere when they lose is really really bad. Worse than other teams. O_o
Huh?
Like when Jaehoon came out all raging at someone after his loss vs Flash, and now Light seemed pretty damn annoyed too. The atmosphere just doesn't seem good.
Nah. Jaehoon's nickname is "gloom" and he's kind of under pressure as the new captain.
Light is pissed because he knows his TvP is holding him back from advancing further in individual leagues.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
On February 14 2011 21:44 Holgerius wrote: It seems to me that MBC's atmosphere when they lose is really really bad. Worse than other teams. O_o
Huh?
Like when Jaehoon came out all raging at someone after his loss vs Flash, and now Light seemed pretty damn annoyed too. The atmosphere just doesn't seem good.
Nah. Jaehoon's nickname is "gloom" and he's kind of under pressure as the new captain.
Light is pissed because he knows his TvP is holding him back from advancing further in individual leagues.
I would be annoyed if i managed to beat 2 of the best players in the opposing team and then losing to some guy who only managed to play ok this season and was a scrub last season
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
You know I should have seen this loss coming. Why? Because MBC goes 5-4 EVERY round. They were 5-3 before facing Oz today. It's just the way things are atm. LOL
I really hope they will break this "5-4" curse. They already broke the "no wins on Sundays" curse this round so maybe next round they will do better than 5 wins. MBC hwaiting!
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
Nah I'm not mad. If I were I would be typing long paragraphs trying to argue my point. You have to try better if you want to taunt me into an argument with you.
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
Nah I'm not mad. If I were I would be typing long paragraphs trying to argue my point. You have to try better if you want to taunt me into an argument with you.
1) Get mad 2) Call someone else mad 3) Deny being mad when outed as mad
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
Nah I'm not mad. If I were I would be typing long paragraphs trying to argue my point. You have to try better if you want to taunt me into an argument with you.
1) Get mad 2) Call someone else mad 3) Deny being mad when outed as mad
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
Nah I'm not mad. If I were I would be typing long paragraphs trying to argue my point. You have to try better if you want to taunt me into an argument with you.
To be fair, saying long posts = rage is similar to saying short posts = trolling. There's a coorelation but it's not necessarily true!
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
Nah I'm not mad. If I were I would be typing long paragraphs trying to argue my point. You have to try better if you want to taunt me into an argument with you.
He is right tho.. long post does not mean rage...
To keep on topic, PM still destroying Light's spotlight in 2011
On February 14 2011 21:39 alffla wrote: lol @ the people saying its 'dirty' to send a player good against the player thats nearly winning vs your team...
It's not fair sending Tosses against Light!
Teams should only send Zergs!
Unless they 3-0 him in a Bo5! In which case, we ignore those games and restart his "Bestest TvZ Ever!" streak at 0-0!
What if he shits the bed AGAIN in a single league? Then FUCK SINGLE LEAGUES, Light is still the "Recent proleague when using bio TvZ" GOD
Fanboys will be fanboys.
You got all that from a comment from one person? LOL
I got that from how this thread got derailed into some ludicrous notion about how Light is better than Flash TvZ*
*Under arbitrary and downright ridiculous stipulations that put Light in the best, ahem, light.
So a few people think Light has better TvZ and among those people only one person made the comment about "dirty tactics". You're overreacting with a lot of rage it seems.
I'm not raging in the slightest. I responded to someone who was surprised by the "dirty" comment, with the point being that fanboys will construe all sorts of excuses for a players failures. Just like they conflate their successes. Light isn't definitively better than Flash TvZ, and Oz wasn't dirty for sending a Protoss. Both of these are examples of fanboys exaggerating the truth to align with their beliefs. One's more extreme than the other, but they come from the same train of thought.
You've just proven my point with your long post. Thank you.
Literacy = rage
Looks like we have someone here who's mad that Light lost lmao
Nah I'm not mad. If I were I would be typing long paragraphs trying to argue my point. You have to try better if you want to taunt me into an argument with you.
To be fair, saying long posts = rage is similar to saying short posts = trolling. There's a coorelation but it's not necessarily true!
You see, I can actually tell he's mad, since only he managed to take my original reply to alffla as an actual attack on Light, as opposed to the facetious joke that everyone else plainly saw.
OZ on 5(?) game winning streak now? Seems like they finally get their shit together. Thank god for WL. And it's really nice to see that even though it's WL the success is not solely based on jaedong but the whole team stepping up.
Well, this one was tough to swallow and it's taken me a while to get over that ace match (still can't believe he lost to Perfectman sheesh). However I can't be pissed at Light after his magnificent performances in games 5-6. I think MBC is still fine, hopefully they can bounce back with a win next match.
On February 14 2011 21:43 RJGooner wrote: So let me get this straight light. You beat the best zerg in the world, then you beat Hiya, and then you lose to fucking Perfectman in the ace?
On February 14 2011 21:43 RJGooner wrote: So let me get this straight light. You beat the best zerg in the world, then you beat Hiya, and then you lose to fucking Perfectman in the ace?
Seriously?
When did Light beat Hydra?
LOL it's mind-blowing how one Bo5 can change things.
On February 14 2011 23:15 RJGooner wrote: Well, this one was tough to swallow and it's taken me a while to get over that ace match (still can't believe he lost to Perfectman sheesh). However I can't be pissed at Light after his magnificent performances in games 5-6. I think MBC is still fine, hopefully they can bounce back with a win next match.
MBC FIGHTING!
Hmm... come to think of it Light is the only MBC player to actually play well today. Jaehoon was quite average and Sea & Hyun were poor.
But a discrepancy THAT big? Perfectman's 3 wins or w/e it was at the beginning of the season might have made people forget how awful perfectman is. He's horrible, possibly the worst player to play televised games for Oz. Wtf
I snorted when I saw that the result of perfectman vs light was a win for the protoss player. Light is so good, but so limited as well. Great call from Oz.
[12:55] <Milkis> PERFECTMAN [12:55] <Milkis> HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH [12:56] <Milkis> "I read an interview with Light where he said that he was only aiming for Jaedong. I was surprised and wondered if he already forgot his losses to me [laugh]" [12:56] <Milkis> and then [12:57] <Milkis> "I still have a long way to go. But that's then and now is now, but I think I'm strong against Light. [Killer and Jaedong starts cracking up] Either way I was waiting to play him and today was the day" [12:57] <Milkis> hahahahahahahaha
Oz is one confusing team to cheer for. Sending PM out last was actually not a bad idea, I think, given Light's relatively weak (or inconsistent, not sure which) TvP.
Anyone translating the winner's interview? Sounds pretty interesting from what Milkis posted.
Haha this is ridiculous, shows off the T > Z > P > T thing more than anything else could. Light is a total one matchup wonder like all those Zergs who roll over P's like nothing.
On February 15 2011 03:01 SubtleArt wrote: But a discrepancy THAT big? Perfectman's 3 wins or w/e it was at the beginning of the season might have made people forget how awful perfectman is. He's horrible, possibly the worst player to play televised games for Oz. Wtf
You've clearly forgotten Spear and Tazza. I don't see how you can't like Perfectman: even though he's bad, he's got attitude, and that makes it hilarious.
That Jaedong vs. Light game is game of the year material. First Jaedong does the Zero-esque Muta-fake and Light builds turrets in his base anticipating the mutalisks - only to have lurkers burrowing in his natural choke. At this point he had no army to his name! Enter siege tanks, vultures and vessels to keep him alive a little bit longer. Seeing lurkers and hydralisks, Light decides to DROP THE MECH PLAY and go SK-Terran! Such a fun game to watch. Awesome.
On February 15 2011 06:10 Emon_ wrote: That Jaedong vs. Light game is game of the year material. First Jaedong does the Zero-esque Muta-fake and Light builds turrets in his base anticipating the mutalisks - only to have lurkers burrowing in his natural choke. At this point he had no army to his name! Enter siege tanks, vultures and vessels to keep him alive a little bit longer. Seeing lurkers and hydralisks, Light decides to drop the mech play and go SK-Terran! 6 rax at the natural because he feared a lurker drop in the main while Jaedong techs up to hive. Such an awesome game and a great show!
well.. wouldnt SK be idiotic against lurkers and hydras? theoretically its really bad against it.. I didnt watch the match.
On February 15 2011 06:10 Emon_ wrote: That Jaedong vs. Light game is game of the year material. First Jaedong does the Zero-esque Muta-fake and Light builds turrets in his base anticipating the mutalisks - only to have lurkers burrowing in his natural choke. At this point he had no army to his name! Enter siege tanks, vultures and vessels to keep him alive a little bit longer. Seeing lurkers and hydralisks, Light decides to DROP THE MECH PLAY and go SK-Terran! Such a fun game to watch. Awesome.
At no point in the game did Light not have Tanks after his first batch. That's not SK terran.
What I don't understand is why Light wasn't sent out earlier. I mean, why send out Hyun against Jaedong when Light's TvZ is wonderful and taking into account JvZ?
On February 15 2011 12:21 RJGooner wrote: What I don't understand is why Light wasn't sent out earlier. I mean, why send out Hyun against Jaedong when Light's TvZ is wonderful and taking into account JvZ?
On February 15 2011 18:49 Emon_ wrote: Maybe Hyun had trained for sniping JD. Odd choice indeed because Hyun has a decent ZvP
Yes, I was thinking about that too. Probably the coaches were thinking Icarus is slightly Z>T. But honestly Hyun had no chance of beating Jaedong and MBC Terrans do poorly on Fortress. Should have just trusted Light's TvZ on Icarus. Coaching blunder perhaps.
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