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Does this take into account DPI?
IE. your 400 DPI mouse a few pixels are pretty huge right? hence these settings being huge.
Im currently using a 3200 DPI mouse on 50% ingame sensitivity. I didn't know until now that you can change sensitivity ingame, i always just used the driver to adjust.
Also my LCD moniter is pretty big too.
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Just buy the Razor SC2 mouse - it is easily the best mouse around.
You can customize everything on this. Hz, sensitivity, hardness of click - everything can be customized.
Diamond 2400.
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I think it's still that SC2 calls standard/default/1:1 sensitivity 50% sensitivity. Obviously it's also stupid to use a 100 scale when there's only 20 settings, but it's just as stupid to use 50% to describe something that's really 100%. Pretty ridiculous
On January 05 2011 06:25 snakzz wrote: i am running 1650 X 1080 delHospital. So what setting should i then use with my 400 dpi mouse? He wasn't asking what resolution you run at, he was telling you to run at a lower resolution. Technically there is no difference between low/normal sensitivity ratio on low resolution and a high sensitivity ratio on high resolution (assuming DPI is kept the same of course), which means his recommendation wouldn't truely help.
Best thing is to still get a new mouse.
One option you have that can help you move the mouse a long distance while still potentially being precise is cursor acceleration. In windows, this is called "enhance pointer precision", which is pretty misleading, but it could sorta offer better precision for a mouse if you had a limited range of motion allowed for the mouse, limited DPI, and required complete screen movement. "enhance pointer precision" isn't some magic fix though, many people don't like it (there are other topics on this you can read about). Personally I had used it for a long time and never had issues with it, just need to be used to it.
As a last resort if 6/11 sensitivity with "enhance pointer precision" isn't enough sensitivity for you, you could increase the scale. Just realize that accuracy WILL suffer, even if it is minute.
On January 05 2011 06:34 TheBB wrote: What does 1:1 ratio even mean? That the distance I have to move my mouse is equal to the distance the cursor travels? Surely not? My mousepad is not made of pixels, after all. DPI to pixel ratio A more proper term would be CPI (counts per inch), and in fact to be the most proper, it is describing the counts to pixel ratio. The term DPI was just used first and it stuck, but it's a dumb term to use for mice (it was originally used in printers and other physical media (scanners) and then jumped to monitors as well as mice.
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Anyone? I have intelli 3.0 400 dpi mouse. I am playing at 1650X1080 I use 8/11 in windows, so what should i use ingame in sc2?
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On January 05 2011 20:00 snakzz wrote: Anyone? I have intelli 3.0 400 dpi mouse. I am playing at 1650X1080 I use 8/11 in windows, so what should i use ingame in sc2?
Whatever is comfortable for you.
Read the post RIGHT above yours to read what someone has already posted in response to your question.
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On January 05 2011 06:25 snakzz wrote: i am running 1650 X 1080 delHospital. So what setting should i then use with my 400 dpi mouse? Use same res in Win and in SC2, turn mouse acceleration (aka enhanced pointer precision) off, set sensitivity to 8th notch in win and 71% or 10th notch and 91%. (Or just set it to whatever you like, afaik IdrA plays with mouse acceleration and he's still quite good.)
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On January 05 2011 22:28 delHospital wrote:Show nested quote +On January 05 2011 06:25 snakzz wrote: i am running 1650 X 1080 delHospital. So what setting should i then use with my 400 dpi mouse? Use same res in Win and in SC2, turn mouse acceleration (aka enhanced pointer precision) off, set sensitivity to 8th notch in win and 71% or 10th notch and 91%. (Or just set it to whatever you like, afaik IdrA plays with mouse acceleration and he's still quite good.)
No way Idra plays with mouse acceleration. I can almost guarantee that no pro players play with mouse accel on. Mouse accel is the worst thing ever to use while gaming in general unless you are a quake super pro who plays with a very small amount.
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Yes wai:
On December 05 2010 14:29 IdrA wrote:Show nested quote +On December 01 2010 17:25 Faraday wrote:On November 30 2010 23:57 IdrA wrote:On November 30 2010 03:29 hyperioNsin wrote:Lol IdrA uses Logitech USB mini mouse and DT35 keyboard classic korean setup. He has kinzu on EG page cos steelseries is his sponsor but in reality he uses logitech mouse. Same goes for many other players theyr setup on clanpage is usually different from actual setup they use. Boxer goes with exactly same setup as idra expect for mouspad EGpad vs KeSPA pad Foxer same as well btw not true, i use a kinzu and 6gv2 keyboard and the eg qck+ pad HA! I knew I was right(print screens don't lie )...But if you have time to answer this: why didn't you choose the XAI? i have little girly hands, kinzu fits a lot better http://faq.steelseries.com/questions/194/Does the Kinzu have mouse acceleration?
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On November 02 2010 15:15 Liquid`HuK wrote: wow this thread is very interesting but very confusing for my tiny mouse like brain so apologies ahead of time. I always have problems at lan and always just wing my mouse sensitivity because sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't; and it seems to vary per computers.
What your saying is my in-game sensitivity should NOT be x5 ? or is it my computer mouse sensitivity shouldn't be x5?
or mystery option 3?
edit: my settings of right now - computer control panel: 7/11 in game: 67%
and my mouse is an basic logitech optical mouse
I've been wondering this for a while now, is there a file in the SC2 folder where all of the gameplay settings are saved? I would love to be able to keep my exact settings forever... But I feel like I always forget some little aspect when working with a different computer. I figure moving this file, if it exists, would be a lot easier.
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I'm going to throw this out there, both for the sake clarifying it for myself and because it looks (to me) as though most people here have missed the point of the OP. Most of the discussion here has been about the different points at which your cursor skips pixels, and which setting is ideal. I think the point of the OP was that selecting specific mouse settings (multiples of 5) will yield inconsistent results. The inconsistency is due to the inability of a player to know the exact speed setting of his/her mouse, not from skipping individual pixels.
If I'm understanding it properly, this wont matter to anyone who always plays on the same computer, never (and I mean never) adjusts the mouse settings within SC2, and is happy with their current settings. But if you have your main computer set to 50% sensitivity in game, and move to an alternate computer, friend's house, or LAN event, you have no way of knowing if 50% there will be the same as 50% at home. That is, there is a discrepancy between the displayed mouse setting in game and the actual setting. If the slider says 50%, it might be set to 50%, or it might be set to 49.1%. Both are displayed the same way (50%), but the actual setting is different (49.1% rounds down to 45%, and 50% is actually 50%). This doesn't affect numbers other than multiples of 5 because 46%, 47.3%, and 48.238348% all round down to 45% (as there are only 20 actual settings, and 100/20=5). The slider display is equally imprecise for all numbers, but it's irrelevant unless you're on that border around multiples of 5.
The OP gives special attention to 50% because it provides that magic 1:1 ratio, where your mouse will never skip a pixel (which is important to some people), but the thrust of his argument applies to all multiples of 5.
I hope this clears up any confusion for non-math-minded people (like me). If I've somehow missed the boat on this, please let me know.
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On January 06 2011 03:14 Omnipresent wrote:I'm going to throw this out there, both for the sake clarifying it for myself and because it looks (to me) as though most people here have missed the point of the OP.
After reading through it myself, I see the same as you do. I don't personally need to worry about it if I have a comfortable mouse speed and am always on the same computer. The time when it would come into play is if I was very sensitive to having a particular mouse speed, and I changed computers. Then I might have a different setting, even though it looks to me like the slider is on 50% in both cases. Luckily, I'm not nearly good enough for it to matter.
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OP: Since it seems you have researched this, do you (or anybody) know if starcraft in Windows uses DirectInput for cursor control in Windows? (As opposed to calls to GetCursorPos())
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Is it possible to use lower settings an achieve 1:1?
I have 1920/1200 resolution on my main monitor (for SC2) razer abyssus windows 7 x64
sc2 in-game 34% windows 6/11
Do I get 1:1? Is it possible to get my windows to match sc2 in-game speed and maintain 1:1? Do I need to set it to 4/11?
Also, what about the razer program settings itself? What should they be? And there is a razer sc2 driver.. what is this for?
Thanks for any help.
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On January 17 2011 14:51 mlbrandow wrote: Is it possible to use lower settings an achieve 1:1?
I have 1920/1200 resolution on my main monitor (for SC2) razer abyssus windows 7 x64
sc2 in-game 34% windows 6/11
Do I get 1:1? Is it possible to get my windows to match sc2 in-game speed and maintain 1:1? Do I need to set it to 4/11?
Also, what about the razer program settings itself? What should they be? And there is a razer sc2 driver.. what is this for?
Thanks for any help.
6/11 in windows is equal to 51-54% in SC2. If you change your windows settings it still does not affect your SC2 settings. Ideally to get 1:1 you want to keep the sc2 sensitivity between 51 to 54% and adjust your mouse settings. You then want to adjust your sensitivity of your mouse to how you want it. You also did not state your current DPI that you use, so I would play with that after also to get it to how you prefer. I am also assuming you disabled mouse acceleration in windows and your razer menu.
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i have tested it with mousemovement recorder i have no red / green lines anywhere
in windows i have also no green red lines because i have excatly 1 to 1 i have 1800 dpi 6/11 windows and Markc mouse fix to get excatly 1 to 1 pixel precise on 50 % starcraft 2 but also on 51 52 53 54 % doesn't matter but maybe you have it topic starter because you not have that fix this nice topic i comeback soon to read the reply :D
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So does this mean that with a higher screen resolution, you can set your mouse more precisely?
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Can anyone explain what 1:1 means?
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this article makes basicly no sense at all. i think you should go back to college and take some maths class? 6/11 means there are 1 2 3 4 5 before 6 and 7 8 9 10 11 after, which means its the "median" of this scale, thus not speeding up and not slowing down, it has nothing to do with it being the rational fraction 6 on 11 AT ALL. same applies for a scale from 0 to 100 obviously, the median is 50. w o w
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On January 28 2011 20:25 Alpina wrote: Can anyone explain what 1:1 means? 1:1 would be that when you move the mouse 1 bit, (the smallest amount it would detect) it would exactly move one pixel on the screen.
For the OP and other people that don't understand why to have a 1:1 ratio is better: This is for the highest precision. You set the mouse to a 1:1 ratio so it wont skip any pixels when moved, and then you change the DPI to change that smallest amount of movement it would detect, so it would take less movement to move the mouse a pixel over the screen. If you do it the other way around, you are basically keeping this amount of distance you need to move the mouse for a movement on screen the same, however this time the mouse move 2 pixels instead of one, so it has the same speed, yet the precision is 50% less.
It's basically like this, if you move the mouse 2 inch, with 800 dpi and 1:1 ratio it would move 1600 pixels. If you have your mouse on 400 dpi and set the starcraft 2 or windows slider as high to achieve the same mouse speed as in the first example, you move your mouse 2 inch, and also move 1600 pixels. However in this scenario the mouse would do this in 800 steps of 2 pixels, rather than 1600 steps of 1 pixel. I think you can think for yourself which of the 2 is the best way to set mouse speed.
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On January 28 2011 20:32 Toxi78 wrote: this article makes basicly no sense at all. i think you should go back to college and take some maths class? 6/11 means there are 1 2 3 4 5 before 6 and 7 8 9 10 11 after, which means its the "median" of this scale, thus not speeding up and not slowing down, it has nothing to do with it being the rational fraction 6 on 11 AT ALL. same applies for a scale from 0 to 100 obviously, the median is 50. w o w I was thinking the same, but if the program the OP used really turns out results showing that 50% would sometimes skip pixels, apparently it works different...
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