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I'm a bit disappointed to find that the thread that started this all has been removed from public viewing. I guess it makes sense to an extent, so that the issue will hopefully die. On the other hand though, I could see how it could be misinterpreted to say that TL is trying to hide the mess under the rug. I only vaguely remember the thread in question, so I couldn't say how bad it was, but if it had been closed with bans handed out, that might have been the better option.
Still, this is the internet. Yes, I'm sure TL as a whole has its fair share of racists, sexists, trolls, etc. The mods generally do a tremendous job, however, with very little tolerance for truly incendiary comments. That's not to say that a topic that insults one group or another can't live for some time, but it's usually dealt with fairly swiftly or not really as serious as some people make it out to be (once again, don't remember the thread and I know I didn't read past the first few replies, so I couldn't say how bad it was in this case.)
As for the numbers, the comment made me laugh. I thought the quantcast was based on daily views. Though I know TL sees higher traffic than that, it's still fairly funny that they want to call them similar. Their numbers are confirmed, while TL's are estimated. Even so, the estimated numbers are usually about 10x higher than the confirmed numbers. Their max (for a day, I think) is 22.6k, while TL's estimated max is 250k (once again, for a day.)
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she feed the trolls nom nom
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On October 04 2010 00:38 Scaramanga wrote: Man feminism never seases to amaze me, i wonder if they would say what they say if they actually thought about it for even a second. This is almost as bad as the person who claimed all sc players were sexist as zerg represented women and are being oppressed. Only way to deal with these people is ignore Haha oh yeah this classic http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=93467
Had forgotten about that thanks.
"A Nydus Canal is a large, vaginal opening, that if a Zerg unit enters, it may emerge at the other end, in a manner that "greatly puzzles most Terran scientists."
"Zerg = female, alongside Zerg = unknowable, evil beast yields a culture who regard female = unknowable, evil beast. This is obviously a problem. Women are human, men are human."
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This just shows that TL is getting popular in the web at the same time getting haters in the club as well
You are all sexist
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Hmmmm. I don't see anything wrong with them using TL as an example of this behavior to write a piece about it. That's one facet of journalism, whether you like it or not. The fact that the blog is no longer viewable though... did an admin seriously remove it because of this? That's pretty tantrumy.
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Some of my favorite quotes from here
From the first article
Perhaps the most ironic comment in the thread is: “Good luck with your female only team. Negative connatations from someone wishing someone good luck? lol ok.
Then an administrator comes in and says: “Most girls on this site that are interested in competitive SC play with guys. DrH nailed it and i really dont see this going any where.”
Anybody getting any meta-messages here? The response, including that from the administrator, is basically, “Sure, bitch, do what you want, but show us your tits and comply with all future sexual demands from all of us, and once you’ve done those chores you can do your little female only thing to your heart’s content in whatever spare time you have left, only we’ll be cyber-harassing all the other bitches, too, so they’ll probably be too busy to join your little club of whores.” Wait what? Does this even make sense to anyone?
This little gem is from her second article:
The possibility that a poster claiming to be a man might be a woman doesn’t even rate a glance, as evidenced by the number of women at both TeamLiquid and my original story claiming to use exactly that strategy to avoid being harassed endlessly.
Yet when i scrolled through both comments for both articles the ammount of people i see talking about posing as a man on teamliquid and posing as a man on other sites is a grand total of zero.
This elaborate (though not very convincing) little ruse from the boyz at TeamLiquid raises an interesting irony: while they’re busy worrying that every poster claiming to be a straightforward woman/girl who games might not be what she seems, these guys are proving themselves liars and deceivers.
Oh the irony, we are the liars right? Ahaha
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lol
What the hell is "the Hathor legacy"?
And why the hell do we care about them?
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A movie called libertarias comes to my mind
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Kennigit
Canada19447 Posts
haters gonna hate
o/
Not that it really matters lol, but here is a traffic comparison from alexa.com
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God, reading this bullshit makes me wanna troll that website so hard.
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It's especially funny as the TL forums are some of the best moderated and more mature forums that I've had the privilege of reading. There's always a few people messing around and the blatant generalization going on in both the articles is astonishing. I then find it even more strange that a general games website like RPS would pick it up as a news item- but I've seen (radical) feminist tendencies from their staff before.
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On December 15 2009 13:06 Xx5k4t3rG0H4NxX wrote: wow
u sound like a fukin ungrateful douchebag. be a man n suck it up cuz life aint gonna get better if u think like dat
u gotta skate this.
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No one accused tl admins of being mannered and professional at all times, but it is a volunteer job and it definitely makes it more interesting when they act like real human beings with real opinions. This is pretty much grade-A trolling to get some hits from the SC community I guess...
@kenniget a site that writes news about another sites admins making a comment can't have more than 5% of their viewers, so this is to be expected.
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On October 04 2010 01:26 Kennigit wrote:haters gonna hate o/ Not that it really matters lol, but here is a traffic comparison from alexa.com
They're just mirin' our gains.
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I posted a couple comments on their 2nd post. Did my best to obey their guidelines. I mostly posted it to see if they will actually publish my comments or not.
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This isn't feminism. This is sensationalism. lol.
Selecting seven biased anecdotes from public internet forums to make personal attacks against a group comprised of over a million readers and 200,000 members.
What a joke.
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Can the initial blog still be accessed? The link didn't work.
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yeah those feminists sure are annoying trolls who have nothing important to say, and we sure are all very considerate and socially well adjusted. we even have a much bigger penis on the penis graph so we must be right.
that said there is nothing but trolling in this thread so I feel bad about posting
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intrigue
Washington, D.C9931 Posts
embarrassing, and it's a legitimate issue that we will be more aware of. still, this kesler lady is wayyyy over the top with her persecution complex and grand self-righteous twisting. how can you respect a writer that deletes any posts that disagree with her?
hathorlegacy is a disaster in representing feminism. i sympathize very strongly with her cause, but her methods are cringe-worthy.
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