I mean at the Animajor they lost against the winner(LGD) in the upper bracket and the runner-up(EG) in the lower bracket and in the TI-qualifiers they lost two-times against OG who have been their cryptonie for such a long period. That they give it another try after TI10...fair enough. But now, it might be time again to cut off some old braids and revamp the whole team and start grinding games again to get a feeling for the Meta. There was a time when the old Liquid-squad had three of their player in the Top10, a fourth was within the Top50 + Kuro on 6k MMR.
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
I mean at the Animajor they lost against the winner(LGD) in the upper bracket and the runner-up(EG) in the lower bracket and in the TI-qualifiers they lost two-times against OG who have been their cryptonie for such a long period. That they give it another try after TI10...fair enough. But now, it might be time again to cut off some old braids and revamp the whole team and start grinding games again to get a feeling for the Meta. There was a time when the old Liquid-squad had three of their player in the Top10, a fourth was within the Top50 + Kuro on 6k MMR. | ||
Geisterkarle
Germany3256 Posts
On December 15 2021 17:49 Rufus Dupres wrote: But now, it might be time again to cut off some old braids and revamp the whole team and start grinding games again to get a feeling for the Meta. There was a time when the old Liquid-squad had three of their player in the Top10, a fourth was within the Top50 + Kuro on 6k MMR. damn, sorry... posted to fast... ahm, yes. This maybe. I think because basically all players have a "history" of being incredible talented and skillfull. I added " " because they still are. Problem: The opponents catched up! Sometimes I feel they go into a fight with (I exaggerate) "It's difficult and dangerous but we are too good for them and get it!"and the edge is not there anymore; at least to take the "wrong" fights! | ||
Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
On December 15 2021 19:51 Geisterkarle wrote: I think because basically all players have a "history" of being incredible talented and skillfull. I added " " because they still are. Problem: The opponents catched up! Sometimes I feel they go into a fight with (I exaggerate) "It's difficult and dangerous but we are too good for them and get it!"and the edge is not there anymore; at least to take the "wrong" fights! True, but to keep up with the young guns and best of the best, you have to play pubs on a daily basis. Their apparent lack of scrimming/grinding pubs can be seen as you mentioned when taking fights which they should not. Instead of cutting their losses when a core is getting caught, they are still trying to fight and in most cases they are losing even more and very often they cannot recover from it. | ||
juuto
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On December 15 2021 17:49 Rufus Dupres wrote: He did not lack the courage to replace Matu with w33 after they qualified for TI9 and he did not hesitate to replace w33 as well when things went bad after the restart of the season. I can understand that you are trying to keep some stability for your roster and players, so that they can focus on their game and not have to think about being replaced at the first opportunity. When you are playing for such a long time together, you are not only ingame-friends but also outside of the game which makes it probably so hard to change things up. I mean at the Animajor they lost against the winner(LGD) in the upper bracket and the runner-up(EG) in the lower bracket and in the TI-qualifiers they lost two-times against OG who have been their cryptonie for such a long period. That they give it another try after TI10...fair enough. But now, it might be time again to cut off some old braids and revamp the whole team and start grinding games again to get a feeling for the Meta. There was a time when the old Liquid-squad had three of their player in the Top10, a fourth was within the Top50 + Kuro on 6k MMR. All those decisions actually came way too late. Matu as a mid wasn't working and mid at that time was completely centered around space creation so Miracle didn't want to play it. w33 kick took an entire year after they failed to qualify for the final minor/major before the pandemic hit. I understand it's hard to kick people that you've been playing with for a long time but it's better than dragging everyone down including your fans, and I don't understand where iltw comes into this because he hasn't been on the team that long and he's a bad player on top of that. They're professional teammates first before they're a group of long term friends, that's the reality of the situation. If things aren't working out on the competitive side of things, hard decisions should be made to keep the team competitive instead of Kuro doing everything in his power to protect his friendships. The Animajor was one decent result in a sea of horrible results that is Nigma's existence. Iltw and MC played horribly during the TI qualifiers and should've been kicked immediately afterwards, and Kuro should've taken advantage of the roster shuffles to refresh his team rather than keeping team mates were very clearly dragging the rest of the team down like his horrible decision making. Anyways, I wholeheartedly believe that the fear of being replaced at the first opportunity is actually good encouragement for players to take their careers seriously. Fuck roster stability. Literally every team is doing better than Nigma right now for a very good reason. | ||
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derElbe
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Just keep it rolling like this, you can do it! | ||
juuto
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Rufus Dupres
Germany1071 Posts
Questions is, will they take a possible tie-breaker seriously or just let it go? | ||
juuto
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type_Zero_00
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KURO love you bro. but you should retire. Or at least PLAY SOME MORE PUB to polish your skill. you play like DOGSHIT. MC love you bro. but you should leave or change pos to pos 1. you play offlane but you take all farm from your pos 1, then blame that pos 1. miracle + GH. for the love of God. leave nigma and find better team. you 2 deserve better. ILTW i dont know about you the most. either you're bad or your team just doesnt support you DAMN... divison 2? REALLY?? | ||
Firebolt145
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juuto
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type_Zero_00
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Now what? wanna blame fata now? | ||
juuto
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Kuro was simply being too cheap to pay a top player's salary so he pulled cheap player out of other's teams trash. | ||
Archeon
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Then again the only top team that played an acceptable season 2 in tier 1 EU was TL. Like no offense to GG but the only player who played in a relevant team before was Ace afaik. I still have no idea who plays in OG outside of Taiga. Entity is a pubstack. I don't think the group is strong enough to just blame going 0:6 on one person. And from the games I've seen Kuro makes a lot of critical mistakes and MC still struggles to do anything without a lot of farm. Miracle is still hit or miss and the only player with some consistency is still GH. They just don't look competitive. I also don't really see how Fata fits into the lineup, unless Kuro wants to take more of a backseat role. I think Fata has proven that his strengths lie more in supporting and team captaining and both roles are covered in NG. I don't think he's exceptional enough as a core to keep the ship afloat while his other two cores are farming. | ||
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