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Such a lazy OP, pulling everything from liquipedia
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aaah the region locked tournaments are on once more
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Elazer lategame still not that great. edit: but good enough it seems.
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Milkicow maruing himself
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I will never understand this endless round robin group format. Do people actually enjoy them?
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On May 20 2021 08:09 QOGQOG wrote: I will never understand this endless round robin group format. Do people actually enjoy them? Well the Players certainly do not enjoy them.... I actually like them from a Viewing Perspektive, because the results build up, like a Mini league. I still would prefer if each group would Play out in like 2 days instead, as it would be way less stressfull for the players
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On May 20 2021 15:07 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2021 08:09 QOGQOG wrote: I will never understand this endless round robin group format. Do people actually enjoy them? Well the Players certainly do not enjoy them.... I actually like them from a Viewing Perspektive, because the results build up, like a Mini league. I still would prefer if each group would Play out in like 2 days instead, as it would be way less stressfull for the players
Playing like Code S-style where all the 32 players grouping into 8 different groups at different time will give ample time for each player to prepare for any build against their opponent.
I think the old traditional format feel much more comfortable than this rushing round robin group format.
It is online format after all, so I don't think scheduling should be an issue even it may takes a month long to finish that.
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On May 20 2021 15:07 dbRic1203 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2021 08:09 QOGQOG wrote: I will never understand this endless round robin group format. Do people actually enjoy them? Well the Players certainly do not enjoy them.... I actually like them from a Viewing Perspektive, because the results build up, like a Mini league. I still would prefer if each group would Play out in like 2 days instead, as it would be way less stressfull for the players I guess I can see that appeal kinda, it's just like... impossible to watch. It's purely checking liquipedia for interesting results and usually not getting any.
28 matches per group means 56 to 84 games, for all 2:0 or all 2:1. Or a total of 102-168 games for NA, 204-336 for EU, just for this group stage. For comparison, there were only 118 games in all of the last GSL, and that played out over a month.
No one can watch them all, no one can broadcast them all, no one can commentate them all. I'm amazed players manage to play them all. It's insane. And for what? Qualifier part two of three for the Season Finals?
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On May 20 2021 08:09 QOGQOG wrote: I will never understand this endless round robin group format. Do people actually enjoy them?
I actually enjoy it! As I like the WTL format
My ideal tournament would be inspired by the Italian Serie A of football: round robin bo2s (one map chosen by each player, 2 points for winning the opposite map, 1 for your own). Then the top 8 by points would do a single elimination bracket with the obtained seeding. (I think wardi did something similar once, can't remember for sure)
I feel it would bring out a lot of creative builds where a lesser technical player could beat a champion contender out of strategy and not mean his downfall.
Of course this would be a very long tournament for 16 (or even 24) players and I understand why they would have problems organising it. And maybe most people would not be interested in a weekly appointment in which sometimes just one match is not a steamroll!
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Personally I don't mind the format, but I can see why it can be difficult to follow for the casual audience and just a bit overwhelming in general.
I'd be fine with a change to it tho just because the player criticism seems very reasonable and there's definitely aspects that could be improved for the player experience
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I'm not a fan of this format either, I'm just not interested in all of these players to watch these huge groups spread out over so many days
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This format should be good for mid-tier and upcoming players as they have more matches to show more accurately how their skill level compares to others. Thus I like it but it should feel more like a league than a group stage. The problem is the boring one sided matches that happen as top players face the lesser players.
These matched should probably be spread over longer time show that the matches could seem bit more important because there isn't another match next day. This would allow more preparation and potential to surprises, but on other hand the boring one sided matches would become more apparent as there would not be other matches that may deliver better.
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wow big congrats to JimRising :D
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I'm usually just watching some of the playoffs and the season finale. Even if I had time, it's just not interesting for me. But I can see how this format gives new/ up and coming players more exposure
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On May 20 2021 00:51 Argonauta wrote: aaah the region locked tournaments are on once more
One of the region locked tournaments is already finished. Rogue won it. But only because the reigning World champ couldn't even participate
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On May 21 2021 18:31 Harris1st wrote:Show nested quote +On May 20 2021 00:51 Argonauta wrote: aaah the region locked tournaments are on once more One of the region locked tournaments is already finished. Rogue won it. But only because the reigning World champ couldn't even participate GSL is open for foreigner, its NOT region-locked, because Special is still playing in it while doing ESL DH LA. Try to be correct next time.
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On May 21 2021 20:45 tigera6 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 21 2021 18:31 Harris1st wrote:On May 20 2021 00:51 Argonauta wrote: aaah the region locked tournaments are on once more One of the region locked tournaments is already finished. Rogue won it. But only because the reigning World champ couldn't even participate GSL is open for foreigner, its NOT region-locked, because Special is still playing in it while doing ESL DH LA. Try to be correct next time.
But Korea was (is?) region locked. Nice try though
EDIT: I don't know the intricacies of who is allowed what and have no idea how Special managed to get to Korea (or did he stay there all the time?) I'm mostly trolling the troll comment from Argonauta
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