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Czech Republic12116 Posts
On April 14 2019 18:05 seemsgood wrote: can't believe artosis though that maru scares colossus tech When you lose a half of your most important damage dealers for free(doesn't change the fact Maru had 2 blocks)
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TvP is absolute garbage to watch, it might be near PvP levels as the worst match up.
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On April 14 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:03 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 18:00 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 17:59 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:58 Charoisaur wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 Zambrah wrote: I can finally watch, GO CLASSIC! Tied up feels like maybe the series will be okay? Good even maybe? Well i just wanna watch standard mid-long game tvp honestly. Not this sharp timing attacks/punishing attacks what's a standard mid-long game tvp? You mean a prolonged 2-base all-in? I haven't seen sc2 games in a long time. Does that mean that the old standard tvp is none-existent ? It's not too popular with Terrans. Why is that ? That's why.
You know before this year or late last-year i thought tanks was never a thing in tvp(in WoL and HOTS they were only used for all-ins). Did the immortal rework made them usable ?
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1 raven > at the very least two colossus unless Maru has a seizure, I dont think they are the answer.
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On April 14 2019 18:06 Ej_ wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:06 Penev wrote: Which Protoss is the best at going colossus in the world? Artosis probably
Stats
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On April 14 2019 18:07 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On April 14 2019 18:03 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 18:00 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 17:59 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:58 Charoisaur wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 Zambrah wrote: I can finally watch, GO CLASSIC! Tied up feels like maybe the series will be okay? Good even maybe? Well i just wanna watch standard mid-long game tvp honestly. Not this sharp timing attacks/punishing attacks what's a standard mid-long game tvp? You mean a prolonged 2-base all-in? I haven't seen sc2 games in a long time. Does that mean that the old standard tvp is none-existent ? It's not too popular with Terrans. Why is that ? That's why. You know before this year or late last-year i thought tanks was never a thing in tvp(in WoL and HOTS they were only used for all-ins). Did the immortal rework made them usable ? No, tanks were buffed a lot and they shred units now.
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On April 14 2019 18:06 Penev wrote: Which Protoss is the best at going colossus in the world?
Maybe Stats. Rolled Maru with em in GSL vs TW as I remember
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On April 14 2019 18:07 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On April 14 2019 18:03 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 18:00 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 17:59 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:58 Charoisaur wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 Zambrah wrote: I can finally watch, GO CLASSIC! Tied up feels like maybe the series will be okay? Good even maybe? Well i just wanna watch standard mid-long game tvp honestly. Not this sharp timing attacks/punishing attacks what's a standard mid-long game tvp? You mean a prolonged 2-base all-in? I haven't seen sc2 games in a long time. Does that mean that the old standard tvp is none-existent ? It's not too popular with Terrans. Why is that ? That's why. You know before this year or late last-year i thought tanks was never a thing in tvp(in WoL and HOTS they were only used for all-ins). Did the immortal rework made them usable ?
That, and the damage buff.
Also the fact that the Raven is a good answer to early Robo units also helps a lot.
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On April 14 2019 18:06 Morbidius wrote: TvP is absolute garbage to watch, it might be near PvP levels as the worst match up. True that.
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Ouch, turned on the stream midway through game 3. He saw the army had left with his phoenix but still kept his units at the 3rd. could have at least forced siege and bought time for lance. Would have liked to see that engagement as an actual fight and not a walkover.
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On April 14 2019 18:07 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On April 14 2019 18:03 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 18:00 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 17:59 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:58 Charoisaur wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 Zambrah wrote: I can finally watch, GO CLASSIC! Tied up feels like maybe the series will be okay? Good even maybe? Well i just wanna watch standard mid-long game tvp honestly. Not this sharp timing attacks/punishing attacks what's a standard mid-long game tvp? You mean a prolonged 2-base all-in? I haven't seen sc2 games in a long time. Does that mean that the old standard tvp is none-existent ? It's not too popular with Terrans. Why is that ? That's why. You know before this year or late last-year i thought tanks was never a thing in tvp(in WoL and HOTS they were only used for all-ins). Did the immortal rework made them usable ? they are only good in a small timing window. Once protoss gets too many chargelots they become useless
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On April 14 2019 18:07 IshinShishi wrote: 1 raven > at the very least two colossus unless Maru has a seizure, I dont think they are the answer.
You have to intercept the push. Do damage in the middle of the map and force the raven spells out early.
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On April 14 2019 18:07 FrostedMiniWheats wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:06 Penev wrote: Which Protoss is the best at going colossus in the world? Maybe Stats. Rolled Maru with em in GSL vs TW as I remember Ye but it was Artosis' idea so it's still Artosis
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On April 14 2019 18:07 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On April 14 2019 18:03 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 18:00 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 17:59 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:58 Charoisaur wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 Zambrah wrote: I can finally watch, GO CLASSIC! Tied up feels like maybe the series will be okay? Good even maybe? Well i just wanna watch standard mid-long game tvp honestly. Not this sharp timing attacks/punishing attacks what's a standard mid-long game tvp? You mean a prolonged 2-base all-in? I haven't seen sc2 games in a long time. Does that mean that the old standard tvp is none-existent ? It's not too popular with Terrans. Why is that ? That's why. You know before this year or late last-year i thought tanks was never a thing in tvp(in WoL and HOTS they were only used for all-ins). Did the immortal rework made them usable ?
They are quite strong now, particularly defensively or during Terran 2-base attacks. They siege up the nat or third, it's pretty hard for toss if it's done right. This is a typical map for that sort of tank style as well, due to the ledge in the nat that you can siege.
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Austria24413 Posts
On April 14 2019 18:05 Elentos wrote: And this game is why Artosis is a buffoon for suggesting people go colossus against Maru.
Shouldn't do it against anyone. Interference matrix is such a ridiculous counter to any sort of colossus build.
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Damn, looks like a 4-1 so far.
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On April 14 2019 18:07 goody153 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:05 Ej_ wrote:On April 14 2019 18:03 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 18:00 Elentos wrote:On April 14 2019 17:59 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:58 Charoisaur wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 goody153 wrote:On April 14 2019 17:56 Zambrah wrote: I can finally watch, GO CLASSIC! Tied up feels like maybe the series will be okay? Good even maybe? Well i just wanna watch standard mid-long game tvp honestly. Not this sharp timing attacks/punishing attacks what's a standard mid-long game tvp? You mean a prolonged 2-base all-in? I haven't seen sc2 games in a long time. Does that mean that the old standard tvp is none-existent ? It's not too popular with Terrans. Why is that ? That's why. You know before this year or late last-year i thought tanks was never a thing in tvp(in WoL and HOTS they were only used for all-ins). Did the immortal rework made them usable ? Tank pushes have been strong since they got their damage buffed in late 2016. And now people commit real hard with them cause it's preferable to playing a macro game.
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On April 14 2019 18:08 Proko wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2019 18:07 IshinShishi wrote: 1 raven > at the very least two colossus unless Maru has a seizure, I dont think they are the answer. You have to intercept the push. Do damage in the middle of the map and force the raven spells out early.
Yeah people ignoring Classic was sooo out of position
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