On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote: Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...
Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least
We've had this conversation before, AfreecaTV counts GSL vs the World as a GSL.
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote: Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...
Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least
I don't see why it shouldn't count as a GSL, it's in the name. It's certainly neither a GSL Code S nor a Starleague though which is what really counts.
shouldn't they swap the ro4 dates? I mean maru, gumiho, stats, zest play Ro8 on Sunday and winners play Ro4 3 days later while Neeb and TY plays on Sep 8th, which conflicts with WCS Montreal. If they swap the dates then Neeb avoids the schedule clash while the other side of the bracket gets more time to prepare.
On September 01 2018 03:21 argonautdice wrote: shouldn't they swap the ro4 dates? I mean maru, gumiho, stats, zest play Ro8 on Sunday and winners play Ro4 3 days later while Neeb and TY plays on Sep 8th, which conflicts with WCS Montreal. If they swap the dates then Neeb avoids the schedule clash while the other side of the bracket gets more time to prepare.
They should swap dates also because they just swapped so Maru could go to Asian Games. If Neeb beats TY though, he should definitely skip Montreal to prepare for GSL finals to make history.
On September 01 2018 03:21 argonautdice wrote: shouldn't they swap the ro4 dates? I mean maru, gumiho, stats, zest play Ro8 on Sunday and winners play Ro4 3 days later while Neeb and TY plays on Sep 8th, which conflicts with WCS Montreal. If they swap the dates then Neeb avoids the schedule clash while the other side of the bracket gets more time to prepare.
Artosis said on the Pylon show they are already working on scheduling around Neeb's conflict with WCS Montreal.
On August 30 2018 14:41 Proko wrote: People are really going hard at Rogue, but he planned the series and executed his builds. When you get bad build matchups it can make you look extremely weak and unprepared like Rogue looked at times. I think people are underselling how poorly his build choices matched up against Neeb's. Even the game where Rogue successfully went Muta showed it. Neeb was pulling out some slightly offbeat stuff that hit Rogue well most of the time (reviving DT double archon drop for example.)
yeah, armchair experts trash-talking pros. I completely agree, Rogue came in with a plan, it s clear he practiced these builds and thought they re gonna work out, and indeed they had to work in practice sessions else he wasnt gonna throw them out in RO8. It went horribly horribly wrong (game 1 and 4). If it went according to plan people would praise his genius and creative play-style
But is Rogue actually known for his "genius and creative play" or because of his solid fundamentals and strong lategame? I am not an expert but not playing to your strenghts is actually a very poor plan for any competitive athlete.
Well, he was known for strategies and builds in HotS.
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote: Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...
Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least
We've had this conversation before, AfreecaTV counts GSL vs the World as a GSL.
And my response is the same as it was last time. Do they really? They give INno 3 medals when he goes into matches, not four.
GOM also wanted Mvp's to count I guess, but that was purely for G5L hype.
On August 30 2018 14:41 Proko wrote: People are really going hard at Rogue, but he planned the series and executed his builds. When you get bad build matchups it can make you look extremely weak and unprepared like Rogue looked at times. I think people are underselling how poorly his build choices matched up against Neeb's. Even the game where Rogue successfully went Muta showed it. Neeb was pulling out some slightly offbeat stuff that hit Rogue well most of the time (reviving DT double archon drop for example.)
yeah, armchair experts trash-talking pros. I completely agree, Rogue came in with a plan, it s clear he practiced these builds and thought they re gonna work out, and indeed they had to work in practice sessions else he wasnt gonna throw them out in RO8. It went horribly horribly wrong (game 1 and 4). If it went according to plan people would praise his genius and creative play-style
But is Rogue actually known for his "genius and creative play" or because of his solid fundamentals and strong lategame? I am not an expert but not playing to your strenghts is actually a very poor plan for any competitive athlete.
Rouge is known for his genius and creative play, in the past that's what defined him as a player it's only recently, like last year that he started to bring his mechanics up to the level they are today. Rouge used to be the Zerg that did all sorts of weird but smart builds that allowed him to win games. I think his loss is more attributed to his smart plays not working out vs what been brought than anything else.
On August 31 2018 19:14 Mun_Su wrote: Obviously neither INno or Mvp or Serral wins at GSL vs the world count as a GSL. Both tournaments can't be more different...
Everyone apart from those who run liquipedia seem to think so at least
We've had this conversation before, AfreecaTV counts GSL vs the World as a GSL.
And my response is the same as it was last time. Do they really? They give INno 3 medals when he goes into matches, not four.
GOM also wanted Mvp's to count I guess, but that was purely for G5L hype.
Mvp's wasn't GSL vs the World, it was GSL World Championship and was specifically referred to as equivalent to a GSL Code S by GOM from the start of 2011. GSL vs the World was never advertised as that and never treated as that by Afreeca.
The biggest difference is, of course, that GSL WC was qualifier based (even if the qualifiers were pretty dire for its time), and GSL vs the World had players who were invited. If WC was held today, it obviously wouldn't be counted by Afreeca, but it was always intended to be a GSL at the time, unlike GSL vs the World.