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conv: - does like 1-2 reads a day, making him look like minimal effort scum. was about to say that doesn't seem to mind and just does thing in his own pace, but:
On March 22 2018 22:49 Conversion wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 22:42 Palmar wrote: although to be fair, conversion is close to being a lurker, he has no memorable interactions I can think of This is a correct evaluation and where I should be in most people’s minds, IMO. I will play more seriously now for whatever that counts for. sounds kinda self aware n stuff. - his reads aren't that exciting. + I do like his tone in a bunch of his other posts. to quote conf town rel for example:
On March 22 2018 05:32 Rels wrote:Oh yeah, I thought his frustration to Moosy was genuine. Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote: Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly, but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.
But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.
Scum leaning on you for this reason. I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find. And what is it even? Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences. My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 11:19 Conversion wrote:On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote: Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly, but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.
But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.
Scum leaning on you for this reason. I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find. And what is it even? Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences. My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup ##Vote: MoosyDoosy You can't vote for yourself, buddy Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 11:19 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 20 2018 11:19 Conversion wrote:On March 20 2018 11:15 MoosyDoosy wrote:On March 20 2018 10:40 ExO_ wrote:On March 20 2018 08:57 Vivax wrote:On March 20 2018 08:09 ExO_ wrote: Moosy I’m going to try my best to assess you fairly, but damn you’re like a hyperactive kid in a Candy store.
But you come into the thread saying you need someone to explain the setup because you can’t be arsed to read it....after you /out earlier because of number of players.
Scum leaning on you for this reason. I think this is an awful reason to scumread Moosy. ExO picked the first inconsistency he could find. And what is it even? Moosy scum lean cause he wanted setup explained but he /outed earlier because of the amount of players and if he does the first he can't do the latter??? I don't even see the connection between the two sentences. My theory is if he’s /outing because of number of players he’s probably read the setup. And on a personal note it annoys me how moosy can take the time to post a bunch of filler candy crap, but not read the setup ##Vote: MoosyDoosy You can't vote for yourself, buddy ##Vote: MoosyDoosy Show nested quote +On March 20 2018 11:21 Conversion wrote:+ Show Spoiler +
Voting rules: - Voting is mandatory.
- Use the following format (##vote: Calix or ##unvote) when posting your vote in the voting thread.
- You cannot vote for yourself.
- Votes that are not in the correct format will not be counted.
- Votes that are hidden in spoilers are not allowed and will not be counted.
- Plurality lynch is in effect. In the case of a tie, the person who reached the highest number of votes first will be lynched.
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You cannot vote for yourself.
+ Show Spoiler +YOU CANNOT VOTE FOR YOURSELF. / vote on rels was basically for rels having a questionable tr on him. I think as scum you'd rather lynch ppl that scum read you. timing wise he voted rels just as a lot of ppl were jumping off him onto rels rendering that point kinda nai.
sooo. can still vote and if the quantity/quality of his reads stays this way he is likely scum.
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On March 23 2018 04:58 disformation wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote: i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs. i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.
wtf is going on. Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it. Am I smoking something or is this literally the first time in the entire game you actually give a read on mocsta? conv does like 1-2 reads per 24hours.
Sure, but when you're determining who you want to lynch at EoD and tell mocsta hey I'm townreading you bro and it's the first time you've mentioned him? Pretty out of left field for me.
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On March 22 2018 21:54 ExO_ wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 21:15 n00bKing wrote: Or should they not kill anyone, hold their shot, and hope to get off a shot later in the game? I think there's two approaches here I would consider: Shoot Disinfo. Operate on the assumption that Scum won't target him for KP going into Night 1. If he's telling the truth I'll know then. Especially with the way the voting went (chaos after he blue claimed) maybe could use his thoughts and my own thoughts to formulate an educated opinion on who is scum. And if he was lying, easy scum dead. Alternatively I might shoot Vivax. Might just be OMGUS but I don't think Vivax has scum hunted this game. I think his post have largely distracted town and can't make sense coming from a towny point of view. He's scum reading both myself and Keslier -- this doesn't make sense in my opinion. Particularly with the discussion I had with Keslier earlier in the day. And I don't think he's ever given a good explanation. + Show Spoiler +On March 22 2018 03:32 Calix wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count disformation [5]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare n00bking [4]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformationKelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley rsoultin [1]: Alakaslam, Rels ExO_ [1]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosyAlakaslam [1]: rsoultin Rels [1]: Mocsta ykl [0]: AlakaslamMocsta [0]: MoosyDoosyTictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosyPalmar [0]: KoshiNot Voting [5]: ykl, Palmar, sicklucker, disformation, Alakaslam disformation is currently the lynch.
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM. On March 22 2018 03:48 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote KelsierSC At the time, Keslier is the 3rd wagon but 2 votes behind. He hops on the wagon with me, his primary scum read all game. I'm just not sure I believe if he really thinks I'm scum he's going to hop on a wagon with me to try to get traction for a new target (or just throw his vote away on 3rd party). So Vivax or Disinfo. I feel like if I was a better player I would go with Disinfo because potentially more information could be learned by confirming he's blue. However I personally would be more likely to go with Vivxa: I think he's likely to be scum.
Really don’t like this post, not just kus he is suggesting a possible situation where a townVig shoots a townVet but the Vivax read feels pretty off.
Like Vivax’s KSC v Exo being MvM read is almost too weird to be coming from scum, and I feel like he is ignoring a ton of the content Vivax has provided this game.
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On March 23 2018 05:07 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 04:58 disformation wrote:On March 23 2018 04:51 rsoultin wrote:On March 22 2018 07:28 Conversion wrote:On March 22 2018 07:27 Mocsta wrote: i have to vote conversion at this point just to save myself ffs. i dont think i filter-dived him before, so taking a leap of faith.
wtf is going on. Relax, buddy. I won't vote you to save myself. I believe you are town and this wagon picking up steam is definitely not pure, so I think town will be able to get mafia out of it. Am I smoking something or is this literally the first time in the entire game you actually give a read on mocsta? conv does like 1-2 reads per 24hours. Sure, but when you're determining who you want to lynch at EoD and tell mocsta hey I'm townreading you bro and it's the first time you've mentioned him? Pretty out of left field for me. hm did look more at his df and rels reads since he was voting them. but yeah that is kinda the problem with him having like no reads posted. can do whatever he wants ands its super hard to see if that makes sense from his filter/pov or he just pulled it out of thin air.
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On March 23 2018 05:08 Tictock wrote:Show nested quote +On March 22 2018 21:54 ExO_ wrote:On March 22 2018 21:15 n00bKing wrote: Or should they not kill anyone, hold their shot, and hope to get off a shot later in the game? I think there's two approaches here I would consider: Shoot Disinfo. Operate on the assumption that Scum won't target him for KP going into Night 1. If he's telling the truth I'll know then. Especially with the way the voting went (chaos after he blue claimed) maybe could use his thoughts and my own thoughts to formulate an educated opinion on who is scum. And if he was lying, easy scum dead. Alternatively I might shoot Vivax. Might just be OMGUS but I don't think Vivax has scum hunted this game. I think his post have largely distracted town and can't make sense coming from a towny point of view. He's scum reading both myself and Keslier -- this doesn't make sense in my opinion. Particularly with the discussion I had with Keslier earlier in the day. And I don't think he's ever given a good explanation. + Show Spoiler +On March 22 2018 03:32 Calix wrote:
Day 1 Vote Count disformation [5]: Koshi, n00bking, KelsierSC, raynpelikoneet, Holyflare n00bking [4]: Conversion, Holyflare, Mocsta, MoosyDoosy, Tictock, Fecalfeast, disformationKelsierSC [2]: ExO_, darthfoley rsoultin [1]: Alakaslam, Rels ExO_ [1]: Vivax, Tictock, MoosyDoosyAlakaslam [1]: rsoultin Rels [1]: Mocsta ykl [0]: AlakaslamMocsta [0]: MoosyDoosyTictock [0]: Mocsta, MoosyDoosyPalmar [0]: KoshiNot Voting [5]: ykl, Palmar, sicklucker, disformation, Alakaslam disformation is currently the lynch.
The deadline is Wednesday, Mar 21 10:59pm GMT (GMT+00:00) which is in .
If there is an error in the vote count, let us know via PM. On March 22 2018 03:48 Vivax wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote KelsierSC At the time, Keslier is the 3rd wagon but 2 votes behind. He hops on the wagon with me, his primary scum read all game. I'm just not sure I believe if he really thinks I'm scum he's going to hop on a wagon with me to try to get traction for a new target (or just throw his vote away on 3rd party). So Vivax or Disinfo. I feel like if I was a better player I would go with Disinfo because potentially more information could be learned by confirming he's blue. However I personally would be more likely to go with Vivxa: I think he's likely to be scum. Really don’t like this post, not just kus he is suggesting a possible situation where a townVig shoots a townVet but the Vivax read feels pretty off. Like Vivax’s KSC v Exo being MvM read is almost too weird to be coming from scum, and I feel like he is ignoring a ton of the content Vivax has provided this game. yeah I think that is a typical town vivi tinfoil.
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On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote: Pfft.
So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)
I've got some issues with all of them.
-mocsta's palmar and ff reads -df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum -conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere
But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me.
Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong
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Maybe ExO is just scum. That would certainly be helpful
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I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated
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yeah ksc just looks town to me every time i go through his filter. felt the need to poke through it because i'm really not a fan of conversion right now, and he was the one saying the conversion lynch was bad and that he was even tempted to vote his townread mocsta because of it. but i can't really see ksc as scum and it's pure unflipped association anyway
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On March 23 2018 05:20 darthfoley wrote: I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated It will be the other way around when you flip though.
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like game sense or game flow like I kinda think that one of the wagons was indeed scum and that 2-3 ppl on Rels are scum. but its actually fairly hard to figure out which one(s).
well that or it is vivi's tinfoil. xD
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On March 23 2018 05:21 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 05:20 darthfoley wrote: I'm still very hopeful Kelscier is scum. That would make me happy and feel vindicated It will be the other way around when you flip though.
You're simply wrong and that's all there is to it.
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What I don't understand is why Conversion's wagon (if Conversion is indeed town) gained so much cred within 30 minutes of deadline, then all of a sudden lost 5 of the 7 votes within like 5-7 minutes.
Like if he's town, doesn't mafia just get on that wagon a couple times and stay there for *insert reasons.* Idk if I've ever seen a wagon build as quickly as his and crumble as quickly as his. I still think he was a better lynch than Rels.
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n00bking was the better lynch and y’all fucked it up. not my problem wagon tore down. I wasn’t fighting to get people off of it.
I do agree it’s suspicious as fuck though
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that's actually another point. like tons of ppl scumread nk. why wasn't he the lynch? I mean I think palmar, hf and rayn have a scumread on him? usually that would mean a lynch mob
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On March 23 2018 05:18 darthfoley wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote: Pfft.
So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)
I've got some issues with all of them.
-mocsta's palmar and ff reads -df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum -conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere
But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me. Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong
you and me both lol ><
Rels was town. Slam is probably town. I don't want to say Palmar is town yet + Show Spoiler +but I'm beginning to think so which means I had a pretty shitty D1 \o/ Unsurprisingly, but it's still annoying.
KSC and rayn still top my town list. Need to talk to mocsta. You I felt a bit better about around EoD? But the mafia motivation for being more cooperative in an EoD that could end in your lynch is kind of obvious. I'll be honest, I considered lynching you more because of not wanting to lynch the counterwagons and KSC/rayn both thought you were scum than because I really feel strongly about your alignment in any way. That fake claim thing hidden in spoilers doesn't help lessen my suspicions though @.@
HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling. Which reminds me of a scum game of his where he drowned me out that way when I was trying to lay down how one of the claims absolutely COULD NOT be true lol >< I'm not going to bother filter-diving him tonight, though. I don't think I'll be any more confident, for one. That can happen D2 if I'm around still and I feel the need to.
ExO feels different. Almost like most of his posts are tonally apologizing for scumreading me. Doesn't fit with my memories of him. He kind of had a NK tone that grated.
I may have missed it, but what has you suspicious of ExO, df?
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On March 23 2018 05:22 disformation wrote: like game sense or game flow like I kinda think that one of the wagons was indeed scum and that 2-3 ppl on Rels are scum. but its actually fairly hard to figure out which one(s).
well that or it is vivi's tinfoil. xD
Yeah, I don't think all the wagons are town. Unless we just all went wild while scum laughed and did whatever the fuck. Not impossible, I suppose. Less likely.
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honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.
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On March 23 2018 05:32 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On March 23 2018 05:18 darthfoley wrote:On March 23 2018 05:06 rsoultin wrote: Pfft.
So of the three up for lynch (mocsta, df, conversion)
I've got some issues with all of them.
-mocsta's palmar and ff reads -df's spoiler claim just kidding thing, and yeah he's not wrong that we're in wildly different places this game. course the latter doesn't necessarily make him scum -conversion's read on mocsta coming out of nowhere
But I think that night actions might be best utilized on Conversion of the three. It's not just about the NK focus, it's also about the little jabs at people which I thought he was trying to cut out. Feels pretty different from Vendee to me. Honestly feel lost in this game atm and i'm hoping night actions can clear stuff up. I can easily be 100% wrong you and me both lol >< Rels was town. Slam is probably town. I don't want to say Palmar is town yet + Show Spoiler +but I'm beginning to think so which means I had a pretty shitty D1 \o/ Unsurprisingly, but it's still annoying. KSC and rayn still top my town list. Need to talk to mocsta. You I felt a bit better about around EoD? But the mafia motivation for being more cooperative in an EoD that could end in your lynch is kind of obvious. I'll be honest, I considered lynching you more because of not wanting to lynch the counterwagons and KSC/rayn both thought you were scum than because I really feel strongly about your alignment in any way. That fake claim thing hidden in spoilers doesn't help lessen my suspicions though @.@ HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling. Which reminds me of a scum game of his where he drowned me out that way when I was trying to lay down how one of the claims absolutely COULD NOT be true lol >< I'm not going to bother filter-diving him tonight, though. I don't think I'll be any more confident, for one. That can happen D2 if I'm around still and I feel the need to. ExO feels different. Almost like most of his posts are tonally apologizing for scumreading me. Doesn't fit with my memories of him. He kind of had a NK tone that grated. I may have missed it, but what has you suspicious of ExO, df?
Well I've mislynched ExO d1 at least twice and I feel bad lynching lynchbait people D1. I only was really townreading him for scumreading you iirc. I was just siding on the town side of lynchbait rather than mafia side because we shared a couple reads.
I might just sheep people this game tbh
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On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote: honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.
No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple.
If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go).
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