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raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2018 20:44 GMT
#1761
Oh god i fucked up. Should have lynched df.
table for two on a tv tray
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:45 GMT
#1762
On March 23 2018 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.


No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple.

If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go).


So me townreading possibly the only other legitimate wagon that would save my hide is somehow making me scummy.. okay. You play your game and I'll play mine.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:45 GMT
#1763
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:46 GMT
#1764
And, just another bit of advice if you're town here (or even if you're mafia, though my last game probably makes me unqualified to give mafia advice) waiting for people to ask you what your reads are is also not going to get you townread. Nor do I see how you think that's helping town.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:46 GMT
#1765
On March 23 2018 05:45 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.


No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple.

If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go).


So me townreading possibly the only other legitimate wagon that would save my hide is somehow making me scummy.. okay. You play your game and I'll play mine.


Lol this is bullshit.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 22 2018 20:47 GMT
#1766
What a bull shit read on me rsoul.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:48 GMT
#1767
On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.


Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum.

The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:49 GMT
#1768
On March 23 2018 05:47 Holyflare wrote:
What a bull shit read on me rsoul.


It's okay. We can just make bull shit reads on each other then \o/ I'm not going to pretend that I even want to bother to try to figure out your alignment right now only to wafflebot all over the place on it the rest of the game lol >< Suffice it to say I can't confidently townread you.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 22 2018 20:51 GMT
#1769
HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling.


This is quite categorically false. I made a case on mocsta, I told you to vote him, I pointed out inconsistencies and repeatedly tried to get him lynched while you waved pretty French meat at people and did... Nothing?

I didn't argue with mocsta either so if you want to put out that read to diminish my reasons to vote mocsta then back it up. Prove I did that instead of casing and giving mafia motivations.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1770
*sigh* don't think your getting the point.
The not voting mocsta thing is indeed more likely town.
I am just using the out-of-nowhere tr on him as an example that you could pull whatever reads out of nowhere because you cant be hold accountable cause there is nothing in your filter.
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1771
On March 23 2018 05:46 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:45 Conversion wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:44 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.


No one that I'm aware of is calling you scum for not making a list. A read coming out of nowhere with nothing behind it is scummy, especially at EoD when they're one of the wagons. That simple.

If you want to not get scumread for that sort of thing, post your reads (in a list or just as you go).


So me townreading possibly the only other legitimate wagon that would save my hide is somehow making me scummy.. okay. You play your game and I'll play mine.


Lol this is bullshit.


Kinda sounds like your read on me this whole game. You literally placed me as equally to a dude who made 0 posts and then got replaced. Not scummier or townier, literally in the exact same spot.

That's the last post I'm making to you this cycle and most likely the next.
disformation
Profile Joined July 2009
Germany8352 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1772
but yeah whatever, go and be productive
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1773
My read on you is that you're underwhelming and did nothing to give more reasons to lynch rels at deadline. Your read on yourself is that you were emotional and didn't do much at deadline to figure out rels. So either you agree with me on yourself or you're needlessly niggling at me
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1774
On March 22 2018 22:25 Palmar wrote:
But yeah, HF seems to be pretty bad at getting things done this game, but for HF that isn't necessarily a scumtell, it might even be a towntell because he tends to try to wrestle for control in games when he's mafia.

This isn't true in my opinion. Mocsta got almost lynched, that was in fact quite close. And that lynch came literally out of nowhere and only because of Holyflare.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:52 GMT
#1775
On March 23 2018 05:48 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.


Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum.

The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours.


DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative.

- There were other lynch options
- Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together

Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
Conversion
Profile Joined April 2010
United States3308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:54 GMT
#1776
On March 23 2018 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:48 Conversion wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.


Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum.

The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours.


DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative.

- There were other lynch options
- Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together

Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest.


If you can't see why your point is stupid then we'll end it here. Enjoy!
Holyflare
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United Kingdom30775 Posts
March 22 2018 20:55 GMT
#1777
On March 23 2018 05:52 Holyflare wrote:
My read on you is that you're underwhelming and did nothing to give more reasons to lynch rels at deadline. Your read on yourself is that you were emotional and didn't do much at deadline to figure out rels. So either you agree with me on yourself or you're needlessly niggling at me


Right. You've just said you're hedging on me so whatever. Don't make up accusations because you can't read me. Just lynch mocsta.

No way anyone other than me is dying tonight anyway.
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:56 GMT
#1778
On March 23 2018 05:51 Holyflare wrote:
Show nested quote +
HF...I'm not feeling amazing about HF. I think he could believe his pushes on NK and then on mocsta. So there's that. His occasional sideways barbs at me are getting my hackles up, and it felt like he was more interested in shitfighting with mocsta than where the votes were falling.


This is quite categorically false. I made a case on mocsta, I told you to vote him, I pointed out inconsistencies and repeatedly tried to get him lynched while you waved pretty French meat at people and did... Nothing?

I didn't argue with mocsta either so if you want to put out that read to diminish my reasons to vote mocsta then back it up. Prove I did that instead of casing and giving mafia motivations.


I don't need to prove anything? It was my impression of EoD. I was townreading mocsta and frankly didn't care about your insistance that you having a case on NK means he should townread you point -shrugs- It's just not a good point.

I think you're calling casing and giving mafia motivations is what I'm calling arguing, so whatever. Really not in the mood to open your filter right now.
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
raynpelikoneet
Profile Joined April 2007
Finland43270 Posts
March 22 2018 20:57 GMT
#1779
On March 23 2018 02:57 ExO_ wrote:
Rayn when you switched vote to Rels, can why did you do this? What was your reasoning?.

I thought df claimed cop, i think that should be quite clear if you have read any of my posts N1.
table for two on a tv tray
rsoultin
Profile Blog Joined November 2014
Netherlands15308 Posts
March 22 2018 20:58 GMT
#1780
On March 23 2018 05:54 Conversion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 23 2018 05:52 rsoultin wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:48 Conversion wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:45 disformation wrote:
On March 23 2018 05:38 Conversion wrote:
honestly I don't see the necessity of sharing my reads with other people in a list? this is such a terrible reason to scum read me. None of you even bothered asking me what my progression on the game was, and I wanted to play without giving a useless list post. That does not make me mafia.

common. that is not what I've meant. please don't start making list posts.

problem is:
when I open your filter to see what your read/opinion on person x is, there is a fairly high chance that I don't find anything. so I have the feeling that you have no opinion/don't care about person x's alignment.
which then makes me very confused when you are are like "hey mocsta, bro, u totally town". cause I am not sure why or where that comes from.
and you avoiding to post stuff unless directly asked about something is not very trust inspiring.


Right, and when I open your filter I see a bunch of waffling here and there. My heuristic says that scum do this more than town. Do I attribute this heuristic now to fit you as scum? No, I don't, because I use this thing called critically thinking to try and see what the context of the your filter makes you scum.

The fact that both you and rsoultin are seriously trying to tell me that that fact that I townread Mocsta out of nowhere is scummy is hilarious. I'll cede the point of not posting reads/lists/whatever you two want as scummy as your heuristic, and I won't argue with that. But calling me scummy for not trying to countervote Mocsta? Go ahead and get me lynched. I don't care. As I said to rsoul, I'll play my game and you play yours.


DF was another viable lynch option at EoD. Your reluctance to lynch mocsta out of nowhere does not win you any town points with me and I'm not sure why you're so determined to push this narrative.

- There were other lynch options
- Even if there weren't, you could be mafia together

Go ahead and play your game, but that doesn't make my point invalid in the slightest.


If you can't see why your point is stupid then we'll end it here. Enjoy!

If it is, you should explain to me how it is? I don't agree that you not wanting to lynch mocsta makes you town. I've explained why. How am I wrong?
"rsoultin: Mafia Suicide Inducer...you have unlimited shots because you are so god-damn relentless." - marvellosity (2015)
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