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I must admit Coetzee isn't anywhere near my to read list. Finally got a copy of Death's End I still need to read 280 pages of Infinite Jest before (it's depressing and funny, but merely good so far), and I have a lent Braudel (first part of "Material civilisation etc") I'll need to plunge into soon. I'm headed toward 100+ read book again this year, 5-6 only really great though. Oh and Polybius is a fascinating read for the interested in imperialism 'n stuff.
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i saw a quote from this book on /r9k/ and decided to read it. I liked it.
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On October 01 2016 17:17 corumjhaelen wrote:I must admit Coetzee isn't anywhere near my to read list. Finally got a copy of Death's End I still need to read 280 pages of Infinite Jest before (it's depressing and funny, but merely good so far), and I have a lent Braudel (first part of "Material civilisation etc") I'll need to plunge into soon. I'm headed toward 100+ read book again this year, 5-6 only really great though. Oh and Polybius is a fascinating read for the interested in imperialism 'n stuff.
I did actually forget that Death's End is out, I've been waiting for this for a year or something thanks for the reminder
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Death's End is gr8. I still think Dark Forest is better overall but both are excellent~
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Mild spoiler about Death's End + Show Spoiler +I like the "never trust women with nuclear weapons" subtext
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Yes, those feminised societies are up to no good lol. I like the book, am three quarters through. I think the second one had a more interesting protagonist and a more interesting personal story, but this one is just really astonishing in scope. Also as usual some really crazy ideas in there. Is there more Chinese Sci-Fi that's this good?
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How the fuck did Bob Dylan win the Nobel Prize.
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I'm happy for Dylan, and watching the "literary" community rip their hair off over the Nobel for the coming months is going to be absolutely hilarious.
It could only be better if Pynchon won and sent another comedian to receive the prize.
On October 14 2016 00:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:06 zulu_nation8 wrote: How the fuck did Bob Dylan win the Nobel Prize. Indeed. And the Q&A is the most vapid nonsense ever. https://www.theguardian.com/books/live/2016/oct/13/nobel-prize-in-literature-2016-liveblogShow nested quote +Q: He’s not written novels, not poetry in the usual sense, you have widened the horizon. Danius: It may look that way but really we haven’t in a way if you look back, far back, 2500 years or so, you discover Homer and Sappho and they wrote poetic texts that were meant to be listened to. They were meant to be performed, often together with instruments, and it’s the same way with Bob Dylan. But we still read Homer and Sappho and we enjoyed it [sic], we enjoy it and the same thing with Bob Dylan he can be read and should be read and he is a great poet in the English tradition, in the grand English poetic tradition. Did she just equate the Iliad with Blowin in the Wind?
I don't think she did; she only highlighted that the line between music and literature is not a clear one. But that has been known at least since the early 20th century(see Pound).
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On October 13 2016 23:06 zulu_nation8 wrote: How the fuck did Bob Dylan win the Nobel Prize. Indeed. And the Q&A is the most vapid nonsense ever.
https://www.theguardian.com/books/live/2016/oct/13/nobel-prize-in-literature-2016-liveblog
Q: He’s not written novels, not poetry in the usual sense, you have widened the horizon. Danius: It may look that way but really we haven’t in a way if you look back, far back, 2500 years or so, you discover Homer and Sappho and they wrote poetic texts that were meant to be listened to. They were meant to be performed, often together with instruments, and it’s the same way with Bob Dylan. But we still read Homer and Sappho and we enjoyed it [sic], we enjoy it and the same thing with Bob Dylan he can be read and should be read and he is a great poet in the English tradition, in the grand English poetic tradition.
Did she just equate the Iliad with Blowin in the Wind?
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On October 14 2016 00:33 corumjhaelen wrote: I approve of Bob Dylan. The uproar it has caused in literary circles alone justifies it. Some people almost make it a life mission to decry awards as unimportant, but when someone they deem undeserving wins a prize they sure get upset.
As someone on reddit said: He speaks in your voice, Music Lyrics, and there's a prize in his eyes that's halfway hilarious.
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Now I'm just waiting for Tom Waits to win.
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On October 14 2016 00:38 dmnum wrote:The uproar it has caused in literary circles alone justifies it. Some people almost make it a life mission to decry awards as unimportant, but when someone they deem undeserving wins a prize they sure get upset. As someone on reddit said: He speaks in your voice, Music Lyrics, and there's a prize in his eyes that's halfway hilarious.
I've spent years defending the importance/relevance of the Nobel lit prize. It's not the end all be all but I always thought it did well as the standard bearer of literature's impact and place in society.
2016 just makes me feel like an idiot. Everyone who has said the Nobel is a farce has been proven correct.
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On October 14 2016 00:19 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2016 23:06 zulu_nation8 wrote: How the fuck did Bob Dylan win the Nobel Prize. Indeed. And the Q&A is the most vapid nonsense ever. https://www.theguardian.com/books/live/2016/oct/13/nobel-prize-in-literature-2016-liveblogShow nested quote +Q: He’s not written novels, not poetry in the usual sense, you have widened the horizon. Danius: It may look that way but really we haven’t in a way if you look back, far back, 2500 years or so, you discover Homer and Sappho and they wrote poetic texts that were meant to be listened to. They were meant to be performed, often together with instruments, and it’s the same way with Bob Dylan. But we still read Homer and Sappho and we enjoyed it [sic], we enjoy it and the same thing with Bob Dylan he can be read and should be read and he is a great poet in the English tradition, in the grand English poetic tradition. Did she just equate the Iliad with Blowin in the Wind?
lol they were meant to be listened to cuz writing hadn't been invented.
I guess it'll be Patti Smith's turn next year.
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That Q and A is embarrassing lol
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Pynchon despises the spotlight and everyone associated with it.
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He wouldn't show up to receive the prize and would probably make a mockery of it, like he did with the National Book Award.
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