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Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
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Illaoi, the Kraken Priestess, will be released later during patch 5.23. To learn more about League's next champion, check the following links:
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So I have no interest in playing league at the moment, but I have been watching it. One thing I've seen on the odd occasion is mid laners grabbing Frost Queen's Claim as their mana regen item. It now offers 150% mana regen and a 'better' active. It then acts a gold generation item as well, which isn't bad. The trouble is it only offers 10% CDR and 50 AP. The build up also seems a bit troublesome, with the passive being useless when last hitting (until the item is completed ofc)
Any thoughts on this?
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Australia18228 Posts
Illaoi jungle is pretty good, you can set-up 3 tentacles to hit red and 2 to hit krugs on blue side (haven't tried red). Finished Krugs -> Red -> Blue no leash around 3:00
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So Illaoi is the blunt version of Shaco?
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so I found out today that MF dirk rush is actually pretty legit, if you get the minion kill on the first hit of Q the 2nd hit will not only get the bonus damage, but it will also get the passive damage from dirk, only problem is you delay your crit which seems to be overly important on this patch.
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On November 25 2015 17:59 JazzVortical wrote: So I have no interest in playing league at the moment, but I have been watching it. One thing I've seen on the odd occasion is mid laners grabbing Frost Queen's Claim as their mana regen item. It now offers 150% mana regen and a 'better' active. It then acts a gold generation item as well, which isn't bad. The trouble is it only offers 10% CDR and 50 AP. The build up also seems a bit troublesome, with the passive being useless when last hitting (until the item is completed ofc)
Any thoughts on this?
Spooky ghosts are really really good. If mid goes MIA, it lets you kind of figure out where they might be going and it's actually a really nice peel/ initiate tool. Obviously if you're an assassin or "I want to blow shit up now" midlaner you don't build it instead of stacking AP, but for more utility-ish champs (Lulu springs to mind, could be horrendously wrong) it's a nice item.
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For all the Quinn Jingle Janglers, what do you buy post Warrior? I saw a bunch of people say Shiv but but with the nerf are replacing it with Cannon. I've also seen people say Ghostblade and ER. So, sup?
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yea I stopped posting ideas in here because I feel like you get no feedback.
that said, I do like the idea of FQC morg mid
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Extra CC on a reasonably priced, kinda okay item is pretty OP
And yeah, Morg ez binds ez wins
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On December 02 2015 09:15 krndandaman wrote: ive been testing some frost queen's claim lulu in ranked and I gotta say it feels really damn good. it's been a game changer many times. the fact that I am able to make picks with lulu is just holy shit. even on a team with really shitty engage (lulu nunu zed vayne janna) I was able to create picks by simply using active and letting nunu run at someone and perma slow. we couldn't create fights without it.
another game with naut support literally just run around map and as soon as we spot someone with blue trinket use active and chase down the fool.
the CD is short enough that I was able to use it sometimes 2 times in the span of 1 teamfight.
gold gen is pretty good too. without even really thinking about it I got ~300 gold within 4 min. not bad at all.
I've been going roa -> FQC so literally 0 mana issues. I don't think I'll be going FQC first since roa is just too good now.tho it might be worth a try to see how much gold can be generated and if it makes a significant difference in item 2 timing.
now I wanna try some morgana mid with FQC ;; so easy to proc passive + picks all day
edit: on another note I feel like this thread is like dead and all the gameplay discussion goes on the other thread anyways lol
Do you play Lulu top? Or do you go ROA even with Mid Lulu
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How are you getting the rest of your CDR if you go FQC?
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Ehh, that's assuming blue buff though.
Could you go FQC+Lich Bane instead of FQC+RoA?
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Are you guys still feeling shiv/cannon on non Vayne ads? Played 3 games of twitch last night and shiv feels so terrible early now with the level scaling like winning @ cannon puchase and getting wrecked in trades on shiv purchase.
It made me think a lot about shiv and I feel like it might justbe bad for anything other than pushing now, you need 18 just to do the old to champions damage, honestly im not even sure if i like it on yasuo anymore
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On December 03 2015 08:21 Slusher wrote: Are you guys still feeling shiv/cannon on non Vayne ads? Played 3 games of twitch last night and shiv feels so terrible early now with the level scaling like winning @ cannon puchase and getting wrecked in trades on shiv purchase.
It made me think a lot about shiv and I feel like it might justbe bad for anything other than pushing now, you need 18 just to do the old to champions damage, honestly im not even sure if i like it on yasuo anymore
Shiv/Cannon isn't a great combo for Twitch specifically, since poison makes you not the best for poking under tower (still doable ofc but you have to be careful of where the tower bolt is in it's animation etc). If I wasn't getting both, I'm not sure why I'd ever take Shiv on Twitch instead of Hurricane. They both build out of zeal, provide waveclear and some healing through critheal keystone, but Hurricane is... better, especially on Twitch, where a single extra stack of poison for E will outdamage Shiv.
edit: Cannon itself is great on Twitch though
If you're looking for a safe clear option and not so much the crit scaling, rageblade is ok on Twitch, but it doesnt interact with your ult the way you want it to so it ends up kind of boring. Not something I'd recommend but it's possible I'm missing something about it.
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