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Hello everyone! yes am new :3
I was having this idea on my mind for like 1week now so i will finally ask is any of you guys (silver/bronze) interested to play in a tournament with a prize pool ? i was considering to organize one unfortunally i dont have alot of friends ;/ if there is any hype for it just send me a pm or answer here Have a great day.!
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Hello!
LAGTV has organized bronze/silver tournaments as well! Feel free to YouTube them for some ideas.
Also, I feel your pain because I don't have any friends who are into SC2 as I am...
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Can check in to that thanks
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On January 29 2015 03:20 hansonslee wrote: LAGTV has organized bronze/silver tournaments as well! Feel free to YouTube them for some ideas.
Aren't those usually cheese only?
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y just checked it out was cheesy x)
@edit Well i hope some of you guys from here would sign up was thinking about a 16bracket or something with maybe casting the whole thing would be quite cool, any of you guys got any tips on the prize pool ?
@edit2 guys do you possibly know anysite like teamliquid where i could ask players to join my tournament ?
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This has always perplexed me to no end. How can one have a tournament that restricts the higher leagues from playing? Isn't that going against the whole concept of a tournament (being the best player)? Being the best player in silver league doesn't mean anything if there is another guy in gold league who would beat all of them. And being the best gold league player means nothing because there's a guy in platinum who is better. And so on. I might as well drop myself down into silver league so I can participate in a lower-league tournament and wreck them all. Get me some easy money.
I can understand having a tournament format for "fun" because most people who are below masters do not have any idea what playing in a tournament is like... But a prize pool is pretty silly. Why reward the worse players?
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I think scvrush regularly organises tournaments for bronze, silver and gold players. It might be worthwile to check them out.
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On January 29 2015 03:55 Blargh wrote: This has always perplexed me to no end. How can one have a tournament that restricts the higher leagues from playing? Isn't that going against the whole concept of a tournament (being the best player)? Being the best player in silver league doesn't mean anything if there is another guy in gold league who would beat all of them. And being the best gold league player means nothing because there's a guy in platinum who is better. And so on. I might as well drop myself down into silver league so I can participate in a lower-league tournament and wreck them all. Get me some easy money.
I can understand having a tournament format for "fun" because most people who are below masters do not have any idea what playing in a tournament is like... But a prize pool is pretty silly. Why reward the worse players? While I disagree with you about tournaments for bronze and silver league only, I do agree that it would be pretty easy for any master player to use a smurf account and get some easy money.
The biggest problem with having low league tournaments is trying to prevent ringers from taking prize money intended for less skilled players.
To the op, having prize money is great, but its something difficult to manage.
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This has always perplexed me to no end. How can one have a baseball tournament that restricts the higher leagues from playing? Isn't that going against the whole concept of a tournament (being the best player)? Being the best player in tball league doesn't mean anything if there is another guy in minor league who would beat all of them. And being the best minor league player means nothing because there's a guy in major who is better. And so on. I might as well drop myself down into kids teeball league so I can participate in a lower-league tournament and wreck them all. Get me some easy money.
I can understand having a tournament format for "fun" because most people who are below major league baseball do not have any idea what playing in a tournament is like... But a prize pool is pretty silly. Why reward the worse players?
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On January 29 2015 04:37 MrMatt wrote: This has always perplexed me to no end. How can one have a baseball tournament that restricts the higher leagues from playing? Isn't that going against the whole concept of a tournament (being the best player)? Being the best player in tball league doesn't mean anything if there is another guy in minor league who would beat all of them. And being the best minor league player means nothing because there's a guy in major who is better. And so on. I might as well drop myself down into kids teeball league so I can participate in a lower-league tournament and wreck them all. Get me some easy money.
I can understand having a tournament format for "fun" because most people who are below major league baseball do not have any idea what playing in a tournament is like... But a prize pool is pretty silly. Why reward the worse players? Quality post. But you do realize why minor league teams exist right? And why kids Tee-ball exist? Those aren't the same as just hosting a prize pool based lower-league tournament. In fact, the ladder already functions quite sufficiently for creating a skill pyramid.
The point of those minor league teams isn't to give the B-tier players a chance at being a real "winner". They are there solely because they will make money because locals enjoy seeing their local team play. There is a fanbase involved, and there is a large enough profit from that fanbase that it makes the system worthwhile.
And kid's tee-ball? That's just a shitty analogy. These kids are not playing for money. They are PAYING to play, in fact. Which is why I said, "I can understand having a tournament format for fun...." Additionally, kids' tee-ball functions as an introduction to the sport, allowing the kid to work his way up if he so desires. They are also matched against other people their age, creating another "filter" to give your victory some meaning.
Silver and bronze league are introductory leagues, but they are already filtered by the fact that the players are in silver and bronze league. The only thing dividing those players from a gold/plat/diam player is skill. If you want to set up a tournament with your friends, you might be doing it because it's fun and to see who the best is between your friends. There's nothing wrong with that, and if the players supply the pool, then it's fine. It'd be sort of like playing poker with friends.
When you have a tournament, the point is to find out who the "best" player is within certain parameters. So, GSL is asking "Who is the best player in the world?" WCS EU (was) asking "Who is the best player in Europe?". College leagues are asking "Which university is the best in the world at X?" Asking "Who is the best player in silver/bronze league?" does not actually make sense, you see. Because they have already been filtered by their skill.
If people want to setup a Ro32 for lower-leagues so they can play in a tournament format, that's cool, but giving them money for winning is just a joke.
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I can just see smurfs coming into the tournament and slaying of all of you and taking the money, bad idea.
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On January 29 2015 03:55 Blargh wrote: This has always perplexed me to no end. How can one have a tournament that restricts the higher leagues from playing? Isn't that going against the whole concept of a tournament (being the best player)? Being the best player in silver league doesn't mean anything if there is another guy in gold league who would beat all of them. And being the best gold league player means nothing because there's a guy in platinum who is better. And so on. I might as well drop myself down into silver league so I can participate in a lower-league tournament and wreck them all. Get me some easy money.
I can understand having a tournament format for "fun" because most people who are below masters do not have any idea what playing in a tournament is like... But a prize pool is pretty silly. Why reward the worse players?
Yes the concept of a tournament is to figure out the best player in a given group. In this instance the group is bronze and silver. Are you going to write a strongly worded letter to the PGA to tell them to stop the senior tour because these old farts aren't as good as the younger people and shouldn't be awarded any prize money?
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duh...im in bronze this season for some reason...soooooo i hope you guys like macro games
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On January 29 2015 05:53 Tenks wrote:Show nested quote +On January 29 2015 03:55 Blargh wrote: This has always perplexed me to no end. How can one have a tournament that restricts the higher leagues from playing? Isn't that going against the whole concept of a tournament (being the best player)? Being the best player in silver league doesn't mean anything if there is another guy in gold league who would beat all of them. And being the best gold league player means nothing because there's a guy in platinum who is better. And so on. I might as well drop myself down into silver league so I can participate in a lower-league tournament and wreck them all. Get me some easy money.
I can understand having a tournament format for "fun" because most people who are below masters do not have any idea what playing in a tournament is like... But a prize pool is pretty silly. Why reward the worse players? Yes the concept of a tournament is to figure out the best player in a given group. In this instance the group is bronze and silver. Are you going to write a strongly worded letter to the PGA to tell them to stop the senior tour because these old farts aren't as good as the younger people and shouldn't be awarded any prize money? But... Bronze and Silver are completely related to who is better... I just said how that didn't make sense in my above post. You don't try and find who is better when it's already been sorted that way. Like, silver is better than bronze, as proven from the ladder. It has no meaning to find the best player in bronze league, because he's likely to just get promoted to silver.
And the senior tour, like college sports, finds the best players in a certain age group. Note the independent sorting criteria, there. It actually means something to be the best player over 60 years old. Though, I personally find it a bit silly, I can understand the reasoning behind it. But it really is pointless having a competitive tournament based on leagues.
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allright so i do manage to realize that most of the peps dont like the idea, well that's your perspective i wanted to organize it mostly for funsies, and the prize pool well it's my own money right ? if i want to give away money to the "slighty less better players" then so i shall since well it's my cash. i dont really take competetive that serious tbh and i mostly wanted to host a tournament like this cause of my 2 low skill level guys i though it would be a cool idea i guess not after all either way have a great night!
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Now now, don't feel discouraged. It's mostly just me being an ass. You should still do whatever you think would be fun. Or, you can try and do something with the current lower-league tournaments that go on. I'm sure there's something like that available.
Best wishes!
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On January 29 2015 06:56 TheJokah wrote: allright so i do manage to realize that most of the peps dont like the idea, well that's your perspective i wanted to organize it mostly for funsies, and the prize pool well it's my own money right ? if i want to give away money to the "slighty less better players" then so i shall since well it's my cash. i dont really take competetive that serious tbh and i mostly wanted to host a tournament like this cause of my 2 low skill level guys i though it would be a cool idea i guess not after all either way have a great night! I don't think 'most' of us don't like the idea. I like it, but I would be weary of ringers trying to take some easy money. If you don't mind giving your money to a master player disguised as a noob, then by all means organize this tournament.
I will watch for lulz.
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If your tournament is for fun, don't have a prize pool.
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On January 29 2015 05:04 GGuMake wrote: I can just see smurfs coming into the tournament and slaying of all of you and taking the money, bad idea. Sadly, it's this.
When I was a lower league player back in the days, I also participated in some german bronze/silver (gold/plat later) tournaments. And each and every one of them was won by a smurf. Sometimes, it wasn't too obvious, because the smurfs tried to emulate bad play by executing dumb cheeses. But mostly lots of diamond or even master league players simply overran their poor opponents effortlessly.
You just can't prevent smurfs from entering those tournaments. Lots of players have 2nd accounts, which they don't use too often, so it's easy for them to "fake" their league. Some idiots even lose tons of games on purpose to enter a noob tournament. (The more clever ones of them hide this by winning some games in between the loss streaks to look less suspicious.)
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