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On December 22 2007 19:17 alffla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 19:15 Kaolla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:11 Last Romantic wrote:On December 22 2007 19:10 Kaolla wrote: lol if jeadong wins its great play if stork wins its bad play by jeadong in case you guys didnt notice that was just as horrible play by stork, going for the wrong strat... stork haters... nothing amazing there just bad play by stork... wasted alot of zeals early on (altho they also did some dmg they coulda done much more) and way too little anti air...
3 drones and several lings for 3 zealots? off of one-gate? that's an excellent advantage to P early game. also it's not like his zeals really came into play after that at all; having those 3 zealots would not have saved him from muta 4 zeal i think, being a good trade off doesnt mean that it couldnt have been better... he just wasted them when they died... and no they wouldnt have helped him against muta but as also mentioned he didnt counter it well enough but instead guessed on a more powerful build for lateron... thing is that he was already ahead... nothing great by jeadong there some muta on attack move and some scourge... think most of us could have done the same thing... timing wasnt that special either he had to go asap else it was just waiting for defeat not rly any point in that... WTF no way u could do that shit so well the scourge cloning was beautiful and it wasn't ASAP ATTACK the commentators were like FUCKNG HAN TIMING HAN TIMGIN (ONE TIMING ONE TIMING) so jaedong just went in before theres like 5019205 cannons and corsairs omgay
well 1 minute later and it woulda been about the same he was just not prepared... and he just was too confident on those few sairs he had as someone else mentioned... the comentators also have to be superexcited since it is the finals... this was definately not one of those super timing moments as you all seem to want ppl to believe.. just a mediocre game like game 1 or a great game like game 1 whatever you want... oh and no need to flame... bunch of 15 yr olds here...
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Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 19:17 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:On December 22 2007 19:14 Proposal wrote: No one likes stork I do. I do too! I do, either.
GO GO STOCK!
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On December 22 2007 19:19 samachking wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 19:17 dragoonkf wrote: Whats weird is, why didnt stork get some DRAGOONS at least ? i mean he did scout the spire it cant be a fake =/ If stork managed to stop that attack, he would stand a chance. 2nd'd Some goons wouldve been better than those all in zeals I mean all in zeals vs all in muta wtf? You're missing the point of storks build. You don't build dragoons. You build pure sair/zeal/temp and completely rape the late game. Unfortunately stork failed to protect from early game timings and didnt get to that point. THat doesnt mean goons wouldve been a good idea. He simply needed more cannons and earlier.
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Now that I see the replay, that was excellent tactics by Jaedong. First he tried to lure the corsairs out by attacking the cannon on the edge of the base. It worked, but Stork retreated them too fast for the scourgaes. But then, Jaedong presses the attack. He uses mutas to take down the cannons while running his scourges into the corsairs.
If Stork had made his cannons target the scourges, the mutalisks would have torn up his cannons and the remaining scourge would have killed his corsairs.
If Stork had targeted the mutas with his corsairs the scourge would have killed them while they were stationary.
So Stork targeted the mutas with his cannons and ran his corsairs away, which gave the mutas free reign over his base.
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United States20661 Posts
stork no gas
his main geyser died obviously
he made 2 temp 1 dt 5 sair 2 goon which was pretty much all his gas
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On December 22 2007 19:20 BluzMan wrote: As absurd as it might seem, muta tech is the way to play against sair debuts.
I wouldn't say that necessarily. Fast gates harass forge cannons, then tech is just uneblievably slow. Stork used to do this and that's why he lost so much. He could have had much more corsairs.
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On December 22 2007 19:17 Scooter wrote: AHAHA! OH MY GOD!! Anyone else see that parody of Love Actually with Jaedong and his coach? Freaking genius!! Someone youtube that shit.
Yeah a little too cool, plese upload, nice ;-)
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United States20661 Posts
HANA DUL SET LEEJAEDONG HWAITING
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On December 22 2007 19:22 Kaolla wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 19:17 alffla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:15 Kaolla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:11 Last Romantic wrote:On December 22 2007 19:10 Kaolla wrote: lol if jeadong wins its great play if stork wins its bad play by jeadong in case you guys didnt notice that was just as horrible play by stork, going for the wrong strat... stork haters... nothing amazing there just bad play by stork... wasted alot of zeals early on (altho they also did some dmg they coulda done much more) and way too little anti air...
3 drones and several lings for 3 zealots? off of one-gate? that's an excellent advantage to P early game. also it's not like his zeals really came into play after that at all; having those 3 zealots would not have saved him from muta 4 zeal i think, being a good trade off doesnt mean that it couldnt have been better... he just wasted them when they died... and no they wouldnt have helped him against muta but as also mentioned he didnt counter it well enough but instead guessed on a more powerful build for lateron... thing is that he was already ahead... nothing great by jeadong there some muta on attack move and some scourge... think most of us could have done the same thing... timing wasnt that special either he had to go asap else it was just waiting for defeat not rly any point in that... WTF no way u could do that shit so well the scourge cloning was beautiful and it wasn't ASAP ATTACK the commentators were like FUCKNG HAN TIMING HAN TIMGIN (ONE TIMING ONE TIMING) so jaedong just went in before theres like 5019205 cannons and corsairs omgay well 1 minute later and it woulda been about the same he was just not prepared... and he just was too confident on those few sairs he had as someone else mentioned... the comentators also have to be superexcited since it is the finals... this was definately not one of those super timing moments as you all seem to want ppl to believe.. just a mediocre game like game 1 or a great game like game 1 whatever you want... oh and no need to flame... bunch of 15 yr olds here... I'm not flaming but the first line of this post clearly shows you have no clue. A minute late stork wouldve repelled the attack easily because he wouldve had 2 more sairs. And at least another cannon. Not only that but he wouldve had time to get an archon out most likely as well.
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United States20661 Posts
AGAIN RED JAEDONG SIN GAEMA GOWON
Stork gets Brown Protoss at Xenosky
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OH NO JAEDONG SCOUTING THE WRONG DIRECTION, STORKS PROBE WILL RAPE HIM AGAIN
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crucial game right here, i hope jaedong can secure this one
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United States20661 Posts
On December 22 2007 19:23 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 19:22 Kaolla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:17 alffla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:15 Kaolla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:11 Last Romantic wrote:On December 22 2007 19:10 Kaolla wrote: lol if jeadong wins its great play if stork wins its bad play by jeadong in case you guys didnt notice that was just as horrible play by stork, going for the wrong strat... stork haters... nothing amazing there just bad play by stork... wasted alot of zeals early on (altho they also did some dmg they coulda done much more) and way too little anti air...
3 drones and several lings for 3 zealots? off of one-gate? that's an excellent advantage to P early game. also it's not like his zeals really came into play after that at all; having those 3 zealots would not have saved him from muta 4 zeal i think, being a good trade off doesnt mean that it couldnt have been better... he just wasted them when they died... and no they wouldnt have helped him against muta but as also mentioned he didnt counter it well enough but instead guessed on a more powerful build for lateron... thing is that he was already ahead... nothing great by jeadong there some muta on attack move and some scourge... think most of us could have done the same thing... timing wasnt that special either he had to go asap else it was just waiting for defeat not rly any point in that... WTF no way u could do that shit so well the scourge cloning was beautiful and it wasn't ASAP ATTACK the commentators were like FUCKNG HAN TIMING HAN TIMGIN (ONE TIMING ONE TIMING) so jaedong just went in before theres like 5019205 cannons and corsairs omgay well 1 minute later and it woulda been about the same he was just not prepared... and he just was too confident on those few sairs he had as someone else mentioned... the comentators also have to be superexcited since it is the finals... this was definately not one of those super timing moments as you all seem to want ppl to believe.. just a mediocre game like game 1 or a great game like game 1 whatever you want... oh and no need to flame... bunch of 15 yr olds here... I'm not flaming but the first line of this post clearly shows you have no clue. A minute late stork wouldve repelled the attack easily because he wouldve had 2 more sairs. And at least another cannon. Not only that but he wouldve had time to get an archon out most likely as well.
Agreed. The timing was such that RIGHT when the cannons/sairs all died the templar popped and were immediately sniped. It was beautiful.
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Hong Kong20321 Posts
On December 22 2007 19:23 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:Show nested quote +On December 22 2007 19:22 Kaolla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:17 alffla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:15 Kaolla wrote:On December 22 2007 19:11 Last Romantic wrote:On December 22 2007 19:10 Kaolla wrote: lol if jeadong wins its great play if stork wins its bad play by jeadong in case you guys didnt notice that was just as horrible play by stork, going for the wrong strat... stork haters... nothing amazing there just bad play by stork... wasted alot of zeals early on (altho they also did some dmg they coulda done much more) and way too little anti air...
3 drones and several lings for 3 zealots? off of one-gate? that's an excellent advantage to P early game. also it's not like his zeals really came into play after that at all; having those 3 zealots would not have saved him from muta 4 zeal i think, being a good trade off doesnt mean that it couldnt have been better... he just wasted them when they died... and no they wouldnt have helped him against muta but as also mentioned he didnt counter it well enough but instead guessed on a more powerful build for lateron... thing is that he was already ahead... nothing great by jeadong there some muta on attack move and some scourge... think most of us could have done the same thing... timing wasnt that special either he had to go asap else it was just waiting for defeat not rly any point in that... WTF no way u could do that shit so well the scourge cloning was beautiful and it wasn't ASAP ATTACK the commentators were like FUCKNG HAN TIMING HAN TIMGIN (ONE TIMING ONE TIMING) so jaedong just went in before theres like 5019205 cannons and corsairs omgay well 1 minute later and it woulda been about the same he was just not prepared... and he just was too confident on those few sairs he had as someone else mentioned... the comentators also have to be superexcited since it is the finals... this was definately not one of those super timing moments as you all seem to want ppl to believe.. just a mediocre game like game 1 or a great game like game 1 whatever you want... oh and no need to flame... bunch of 15 yr olds here... I'm not flaming but the first line of this post clearly shows you have no clue. A minute late stork wouldve repelled the attack easily because he wouldve had 2 more sairs. And at least another cannon. Not only that but he wouldve had time to get an archon out most likely as well.
thank you
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United States20661 Posts
isn't that like first in the manual
ALWAYS SCOUT VERTICALLY?
goddam
alright pylon at nat for Stork
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DUDE THAT CHICK
TEAMLIQUID.NET
who was that? instant +5 to hotness factor, does anyone here know who that was?
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OH MY GOD! TEAM LIQUID.NET SIGN!!!
sorry for all the caps people, but that was amazing o...o
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