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dragoonkf
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Singapore1256 Posts
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#261
Whats weird is, why didnt stork get some DRAGOONS at least ? i mean he did scout the spire it cant be a fake =/ If stork managed to stop that attack, he would stand a chance.
Inter.MinD/Free[gm]/Stork fan
alffla
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Hong Kong20321 Posts
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#262
On December 22 2007 19:15 Kaolla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:11 Last Romantic wrote:
On December 22 2007 19:10 Kaolla wrote:
lol if jeadong wins its great play
if stork wins its bad play by jeadong
in case you guys didnt notice that was just as horrible play by stork, going for the wrong strat...
stork haters...
nothing amazing there just bad play by stork... wasted alot of zeals early on (altho they also did some dmg they coulda done much more) and way too little anti air...


3 drones and several lings for 3 zealots? off of one-gate? that's an excellent advantage to P early game.

also it's not like his zeals really came into play after that at all; having those 3 zealots would not have saved him from muta


4 zeal i think, being a good trade off doesnt mean that it couldnt have been better... he just wasted them when they died...
and no they wouldnt have helped him against muta but as also mentioned he didnt counter it well enough but instead guessed on a more powerful build for lateron... thing is that he was already ahead...

nothing great by jeadong there some muta on attack move and some scourge... think most of us could have done the same thing... timing wasnt that special either he had to go asap else it was just waiting for defeat not rly any point in that...


WTF no way u could do that shit so well the scourge cloning was beautiful

and it wasn't ASAP ATTACK the commentators were like FUCKNG HAN TIMING HAN TIMGIN (ONE TIMING ONE TIMING) so jaedong just went in before theres like 5019205 cannons and corsairs

omgay
Graphicssavior[gm] : What is a “yawn” rape ;; Masumune - It was the year of the pig for those fucking defilers. Chill - A clinic you say? okum: SC without Korean yelling is like porn without sex. konamix: HAPPY BIRTHDAY MOMMY!
Scooter
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States747 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 10:17:43
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#263
AHAHA! OH MY GOD!!
Anyone else see that parody of Love Actually with Jaedong and his coach? Freaking genius!! Someone youtube that shit.
My unblocks gets yo curleh mustache wet のωの
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 10:17:46
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#264
On December 22 2007 19:09 game.no wrote:
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On December 22 2007 18:57 game.no wrote:
why is stork changing his build? he better not lose this..


looks like he did. use bisu build! don't change to your old pvz ways.


"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#265
On December 22 2007 19:15 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:13 Hittegods wrote:
On December 22 2007 19:12 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
stork constantly made corsairs thought, it was really nice micro by jaedong imo.

He didn't add a second stargate after scouting the spire though.


o
when did he scout the spire? with probe or when i didnt notice ;x


first sair was sent directly upwards and saw the spire immediately
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SoMuchBetter
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia10606 Posts
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#266
On December 22 2007 19:15 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:13 Hittegods wrote:
On December 22 2007 19:12 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
stork constantly made corsairs thought, it was really nice micro by jaedong imo.

He didn\'t add a second stargate after scouting the spire though.


o
when did he scout the spire? with probe or when i didnt notice ;x

he scouted it with his first corsair, but then got too comfortable with himself and didnt prepare enough for jaedong\'s one and only hope of winning the game and got punished for it
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Sr18
Profile Joined April 2006
Netherlands1141 Posts
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#267
On December 22 2007 19:10 Kaolla wrote:
lol if jeadong wins its great play
if stork wins its bad play by jeadong
in case you guys didnt notice that was just as horrible play by stork, going for the wrong strat...
stork haters...
nothing amazing there just bad play by stork... wasted alot of zeals early on (altho they also did some dmg they coulda done much more) and way too little anti air...


No, you don't understand. If Zerg wins, it's great play by Zerg. If Zerg loses, it's bad play by Zerg. Protoss is a boring constant. Kind of like a wall of defenders with free kicks in football. If the free-kick taker scores, he did well. If he misses, he didn't do well. It's not like you say: "Oh, great work, wall". Less *yawn* protoss, more *yeee* Zerg. :-)

JAEDONG FIGHTING!~~
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Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 22 2007 10:17 GMT
#268
On December 22 2007 19:17 Scooter wrote:
AHAHA! OH MY GOD!!
Anyone else see that parody of Love Actually with Jaedong and his coach? Freaking genius!! Someone youtube that shit.


OH THAT'S WHAT THOSE SIGNS WERE
AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAha
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sgt_cr
Profile Joined November 2007
Costa Rica95 Posts
December 22 2007 10:18 GMT
#269
what games are those showing?>??? damn they look sooo AWESOME!!!
Hittegods
Profile Joined April 2007
Stockholm4641 Posts
December 22 2007 10:18 GMT
#270
On December 22 2007 19:16 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:13 Hittegods wrote:
On December 22 2007 19:12 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
stork constantly made corsairs thought, it was really nice micro by jaedong imo.

He didn't add a second stargate after scouting the spire though.

Its not necessary to add a second stargate. You just need cannons until the sair count gets high enough.

Well, you do either I guess. Stork did neither, and lost.

On December 22 2007 19:17 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:14 Proposal wrote:
No one likes stork

I do.

I do too!
This neo violence, pure self defiance
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
December 22 2007 10:18 GMT
#271
On December 22 2007 19:15 alffla wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:13 Hittegods wrote:
On December 22 2007 19:12 AnOth3rDAy wrote:
stork constantly made corsairs thought, it was really nice micro by jaedong imo.

He didn't add a second stargate after scouting the spire though.


o
when did he scout the spire? with probe or when i didnt notice ;x

I believe he did so with his first sair. If he didnt, it would be a huge mistake and a very poor choice.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
December 22 2007 10:18 GMT
#272
Damn jd's apm is high
samachking
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Bahrain4949 Posts
December 22 2007 10:19 GMT
#273
On December 22 2007 19:17 dragoonkf wrote:
Whats weird is, why didnt stork get some DRAGOONS at least ? i mean he did scout the spire it cant be a fake =/ If stork managed to stop that attack, he would stand a chance.


2nd'd
Some goons wouldve been better than those all in zeals
I mean all in zeals vs all in muta wtf?
"And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse. But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense, or decency, or self preservation, but for friendliness."
TheFoReveRwaR
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States10657 Posts
December 22 2007 10:20 GMT
#274
On December 22 2007 19:17 dragoonkf wrote:
Whats weird is, why didnt stork get some DRAGOONS at least ? i mean he did scout the spire it cant be a fake =/ If stork managed to stop that attack, he would stand a chance.

Well many zerg simply get a spire and make 6 scourge. They then go hyrda while adding 2 evos and taking a third gas + more hatches. They then use hydras to pressure while teching lurk for a mid game win.
Being healthy, it has been said, really consists of having the same disease as everybody else.
BluzMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2006
Russian Federation4235 Posts
December 22 2007 10:20 GMT
#275
As absurd as it might seem, muta tech is the way to play against sair debuts.
You want 20 good men, but you need a bad pussy.
IaniAniaN
Profile Joined September 2007
Canada555 Posts
December 22 2007 10:20 GMT
#276
Looks like Stork is again uncomfortable with using the full Protoss tech like bisu does, ironically it's almost like the opposite of his PvP (where he tries to tech faster usually).
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
December 22 2007 10:21 GMT
#277
"Stork may have been too confident, if he produced some dragoons he wouldn't have suffered as much"
teamsolid
Profile Joined October 2007
Canada3668 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-12-22 10:23:37
December 22 2007 10:21 GMT
#278
On December 22 2007 19:14 Last Romantic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 22 2007 19:13 TheFoReveRwaR wrote:
On December 22 2007 19:09 game.no wrote:
On December 22 2007 18:57 game.no wrote:
why is stork changing his build? he better not lose this..


looks like he did. use bisu build! don't change to your old pvz ways.

Why are you quoting yourself?


why hasn't that fuck been banned yet?

But yea.. I still think its overconfidence. He didn't adapt even after scouting the spire.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
December 22 2007 10:22 GMT
#279
game 3 starting!!
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Plexa
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
Aotearoa39261 Posts
December 22 2007 10:22 GMT
#280
On December 22 2007 19:20 BluzMan wrote:
As absurd as it might seem, muta tech is the way to play against sair debuts.
i have thought this for so long <3
in the early stages of the game, muta (+scourge) >> sairs
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