EPTAlso, greaat job Vonthin! You played a good cop, I'm really mad that I didn't realize you were cop earlier... but nice checks! I actually thought E00 was cop and checked OWB.
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Balla24
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Also, greaat job Vonthin! You played a good cop, I'm really mad that I didn't realize you were cop earlier... but nice checks! I actually thought E00 was cop and checked OWB. | ||
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Vonthin
United States2864 Posts
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Hapahauli
United States9305 Posts
On November 08 2013 12:15 Balla24 wrote: Holy crap mafia guys you guys are wayyyyyyy to calculated. Just post more, go with the flow, whatever your fake reads (real) take you go with it... don't worry so much!!! FirmTofu told me on my first game as mafia just do whatever you would do as town just 3x less... also while it might seem like a great idea early on, do NOT ignore your mafia teammates. It was WAYYYYY too easy to make scumpairs in this game... ... I think the bolded sums up the game very well. Mafia were playing too scared/passive, and let the town organize themselves too well. As mafia, it's not enough to just "blend in". You have to create chaos. disrupt the town, and create a terrible atmosphere for anyone to be productive. If you sit back and let the town talk amongst themselves without pushing your own agenda, you're just going to get run over. It's definitely tough, and I understand that playing as mafia can be really stressful, but you'll be come much better as mafia when you learn to relax and post a bit more freely. | ||
onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Balla24
2322 Posts
NEVER GIVE UP as mafia. Even when a scary town is pushing you. Attack the weak points, give reasoning about other things, admit "mistakes" when you can't really give reasoning and say what you should have done instead. Try to buddy up with someone who knows you and is thus more likely to write you off. Also, defend yourself and bring up a COUNTER-TARGET always, try to direct town, look at how storr was doing this constantly as town, scum should do this too. Do not tunnel. It's bad as town right? So why do it as mafia... anyways NEVER GIVE UP. Nah these were my first games too, only experience I have with mafia is sc2mafia (completely useless garbage piece of shit) and watching eSports Mafia with StorrZerg and Koibu and people from this forum. You just have to be more confident. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
On November 08 2013 12:32 Balla24 wrote: @OWB just never give up... the train got started on you early enough that you could have posted tons and acted like town. Give some fake reasoning on why you didn't switch to poofter (recommendation: when you say you read someone's filter, READ THEIR FILTER, even if they are on your team, it helps when you need to post something you can post a soft-defense of them, soft-accusation anything like that, counter someone's point whatever...) NEVER GIVE UP as mafia. Even when a scary town is pushing you. Attack the weak points, give reasoning about other things, admit "mistakes" when you can't really give reasoning and say what you should have done instead. Try to buddy up with someone who knows you and is thus more likely to write you off. Also, defend yourself and bring up a COUNTER-TARGET always, try to direct town, look at how storr was doing this constantly as town, scum should do this too. Do not tunnel. It's bad as town right? So why do it as mafia... anyways NEVER GIVE UP. Nah these were my first games too, only experience I have with mafia is sc2mafia (completely useless garbage piece of shit) and watching eSports Mafia with StorrZerg and Koibu and people from this forum. You just have to be more confident. Damn...that makes me feel really shitty. I suck at this game T_T | ||
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Balla24
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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Balla24
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Umasi
United States1399 Posts
obzy is lazy (or busy) balla is a baller johnny was kind of rude and then was less rude qed | ||
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Balla24
2322 Posts
. . It is proved. QED. | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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cakemanofdoom
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WaveofShadow
Canada31494 Posts
http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/YFRvPLhdGUM Jonny - you played very well in my opinion---be careful about being overly aggressive like we talked about imo. You asked the right questions and at least I was able to provide a FEW answers. Sorry to the hosts for this, I really assumed I had more time than I did. I also probably won't be able to do much analysis of their play considering I missed a good half of the game. I won't be coaching again for a while. Sorry again, and GG town! You did it completely without my help. (not that that's surprising or anything) http://www.quicktopic.com/50/H/86fx5hBEMApg | ||
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
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OdinOfPergo
United States840 Posts
Wave, wth have you done?! I've gone from a scv to a marine because of you. Explain this. | ||
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onlywonderboy
United States23745 Posts
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JonnyLaw
United States3482 Posts
On November 08 2013 12:26 Hapahauli wrote: As mafia, it's not enough to just "blend in". You have to create chaos. disrupt the town, and create a terrible atmosphere for anyone to be productive. If you sit back and let the town talk amongst themselves without pushing your own agenda, you're just going to get run over. It's definitely tough, and I understand that playing as mafia can be really stressful, but you'll be come much better as mafia when you learn to relax and post a bit more freely. This is exactly how Odin came into the game and the reason I wanted to lynch him so badly on day 1. Nice job guys, I would not have wanted OWB lynched. Killing Van and me helped the town more than anything I think. | ||
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Obzy
United States525 Posts
On November 08 2013 12:50 Umasi wrote: post game analysis by the amazing umasi (who hardly read the game and was totally wrong) obzy is lazy (or busy) balla is a baller johnny was kind of rude and then was less rude qed that's only your analysis because that's what i told you All in all, this game felt a lot like my first newbie (in retrospect) - very townie people were active with discussion, quieter people were open with reads and thought process, and scum didn't have control of the atmosphere, as Hapa already mentioned. Sorry for raging at you a bit Jonny ^^ I hate getting flamed, even though you were right about Odin lol :x It made me take a break for a few days, but in that time the game basically got solved so - all's well that ends well? :l Although I think all of us played acceptably - special shoutout to Balla; who was so active that I was sort of paranoid. If we had gotten to lylo and for some reason you and I had been left alive, I almost certainly would've snap voted you out of sheer "There's no way mafia lets him get to lylo. None." Very well played as a town leader imo ^^ | ||
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Bereft
United States1007 Posts
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