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On September 23 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
LoneMeow and/or Stutters, are you around?
Sup yo
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On September 23 2013 07:11 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:52 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:45 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 06:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm basically rallying for Sentinel btw. He played more effectively when he was in 4 games at a time during Smurf. 5* In which game was that? Smurf? I posted the bare minimum to keep up and piggybacked on other people's reads And yet you looked town! I can't say that here. That's like job #1, right? Bullshit I looked town. I tunneled Eccleston, showed up only when someone knew I was missing, tried my hardest not to look suspicious, and the only reason I stayed alive as long as I did was because I defended myself decently well and nobody could pin anything on me. That's also what I did in Roulette which I played concurrently IIRC, with Vayne swapped in for Eccleston Lol fuck Maybe you looked town because I knew you were town (as PT2.0). Let me get to my computer, do some reading. If not you, then who? Is it you vs Koshi and some Chairman Ray campaigners? Well there's yamato but that's out of the question for you, right? And then there's LoneMeow bandwagon, but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment. If you seriously think I am mafia, you need to explain yourself better than you have so far. What I don't understand is how you easily rule out the possibility that Ray does truly have no idea what's going on, and the difficulty with coming up with arguments other than sheeping the easiest lynch is a symptom of that problem. Yes, it would be a scumread in a more experienced player, but looking at Ray's profile history he's come out of a newbie game recently. I don't get why you don't pursue your other reads more. I think if you read his posts, he has a clear understanding of what's happening in the game.
I just read his entire filter and he looks exactly like a guy who's playing his second (second? can't be more than fourth since he was previously in a newbie, someone confirm this) game. I don't see what would make him scummy.
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On September 23 2013 07:16 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:00 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 06:56 ObviousOne wrote:
WoS who you want to talk about?
Town sentiment is irrelevant if you're town. I'm glad you think so but I've posted 4-5 things in this game that have gone completely ignored because they weren't 'current topics.' yamato I'm kind of surprised at Rayn/Mocsta being your top two. Do you think you can get either of them lynched today? Why are you surprised? yamato's pushes look better than I'm used to seeing from him on day 1 actually (sorry yam). I've found what he's written quite persuasive.
Because I thought it was Rayn, not Ray, and I didn't remember him attempting to push Rayn at all which is why I was asking if he thought he could get either lynched.
Marv I knwo you're a slow start kinda guy sometimes, but this game has been exceptionally slow for you thus far, it seems.
What geevs?
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On September 23 2013 07:16 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:07 marvellosity wrote:
LoneMeow and/or Stutters, are you around? Sup yo
Kinda random question, how would you personally say your town and mafia play differs?
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On September 23 2013 07:13 ObviousOne wrote:You're calling Umasi scum for something you are doing yourself, is what I'm implying, if my reading comprehension is working.
Umasi pushed a LM lynch then got off when he couldn't find anything to push him with. I was never on the LM wagon to start with.
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This is the pace I'm working at, WoS. Nothing more, nothing less ^_^
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Okay, can you just vote for Koshi everyone? He's scum.
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On September 23 2013 07:15 ObviousOne wrote:
Sent what's your case on Yamato? I see the reasoning as "third scum read" and that was it.
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.
But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.
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On September 23 2013 07:16 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:15 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.
Yes, I think I can get him lynched. Oh, flerp. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah, you probably can get him lynched. I'm not sold on him being scum>bad town though. I'd probably lean towards him being bad town but I also have a bad track record of giving people the 'bad town' benefit of the doubt when they may not deserve it. I feel more strongly about Lonemeow being 'bad town' than Ray and Ray himself seems to be comfortable with his LM vote.... On September 23 2013 05:47 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 05:46 Mattchew wrote:
Yamato i voted you to see how angry you would get... I dont sense the fury in that post I'm intentionally not tilting this game. It's easier to do in forum mafia than in Voice. If you OMGUS and yell at your accusers, you become DP. What I really want to talk about is DP v FT because I'm still pretty bothered by many of DP's reactions this game. I am aware you're currently still leaning town on him but I wonder if you know what a mafia DP is capable of? I have never played in a game where DP was mafia. Generally even bad town don't continually make posts that effectively say nothing. I'm not leaning town on DP. I'm firmly null on him. My official stance is "not going to pursue any further because accusing him doesn't help his alignment become much clearer." At what point will his alignment become clearer? I'm not a fan of 'wait a few days and if they're still alive, lynch' because we're already going to have quite a few of those in this game. Have you played with a mafia DP before?
I have, twice.
In Personality 2, all he did was bitch about people pressuring him to contribute as a replacement and coast along until endgame.
In Catch 22, he made shitty pushes (namely on me for accusing him) and continually claimed there was no way to catch him because he plays town and scum exactly the same.
Sound similar? Hence my initial suspicion.
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On September 23 2013 07:20 raynpelikoneet wrote:
Okay, can you just vote for Koshi everyone? He's scum.
Can you be less bad? At this point it is annoying.
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Also people know you want to lynch me rayn. What are your other reads?
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On September 23 2013 07:19 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:13 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 07:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are you implying there? You're calling Umasi scum for something you are doing yourself, is what I'm implying, if my reading comprehension is working. Umasi pushed a LM lynch then got off when he couldn't find anything to push him with. I was never on the LM wagon to start with.
This coffee still hasn't hit my brain so you can confirm/deny this so I can have it straight:
Umasi: Intent to vote LM --> no support --> drops it
Sentinel: Intent to vote LM --> LM not here to defend himself --> drops it
I am drawing this parallel, but I am also noting that you called Umasi scum for it. So does that QED you are scum?
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On September 23 2013 07:17 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:11 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 07:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:52 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:45 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 06:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:On September 23 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm basically rallying for Sentinel btw. He played more effectively when he was in 4 games at a time during Smurf. 5* In which game was that? Smurf? I posted the bare minimum to keep up and piggybacked on other people's reads And yet you looked town! I can't say that here. That's like job #1, right? Bullshit I looked town. I tunneled Eccleston, showed up only when someone knew I was missing, tried my hardest not to look suspicious, and the only reason I stayed alive as long as I did was because I defended myself decently well and nobody could pin anything on me. That's also what I did in Roulette which I played concurrently IIRC, with Vayne swapped in for Eccleston Lol fuck Maybe you looked town because I knew you were town (as PT2.0). Let me get to my computer, do some reading. If not you, then who? Is it you vs Koshi and some Chairman Ray campaigners? Well there's yamato but that's out of the question for you, right? And then there's LoneMeow bandwagon, but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment. If you seriously think I am mafia, you need to explain yourself better than you have so far. What I don't understand is how you easily rule out the possibility that Ray does truly have no idea what's going on, and the difficulty with coming up with arguments other than sheeping the easiest lynch is a symptom of that problem. Yes, it would be a scumread in a more experienced player, but looking at Ray's profile history he's come out of a newbie game recently. I don't get why you don't pursue your other reads more. I think if you read his posts, he has a clear understanding of what's happening in the game. I just read his entire filter and he looks exactly like a guy who's playing his second (second? can't be more than fourth since he was previously in a newbie, someone confirm this) game. I don't see what would make him scummy.
"I think he's noob/bad town" is a bad excuse for ignoring what is ultimately quite scummy play.
Explain how his fluff posts and weak scumreads are more likely to come from noob town than noob scum. The latter is a real option, mind you, and the one that I tend to gravitate toward.
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On September 23 2013 07:22 Koshi wrote:
Also people know you want to lynch me rayn. What are your other reads?
Sentinel, Chairman Ray, Risen.
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On September 23 2013 07:21 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:16 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:15 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.
Yes, I think I can get him lynched. Oh, flerp. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah, you probably can get him lynched. I'm not sold on him being scum>bad town though. I'd probably lean towards him being bad town but I also have a bad track record of giving people the 'bad town' benefit of the doubt when they may not deserve it. I feel more strongly about Lonemeow being 'bad town' than Ray and Ray himself seems to be comfortable with his LM vote.... On September 23 2013 05:47 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 05:46 Mattchew wrote:
Yamato i voted you to see how angry you would get... I dont sense the fury in that post I'm intentionally not tilting this game. It's easier to do in forum mafia than in Voice. If you OMGUS and yell at your accusers, you become DP. What I really want to talk about is DP v FT because I'm still pretty bothered by many of DP's reactions this game. I am aware you're currently still leaning town on him but I wonder if you know what a mafia DP is capable of? I have never played in a game where DP was mafia. Generally even bad town don't continually make posts that effectively say nothing. I'm not leaning town on DP. I'm firmly null on him. My official stance is "not going to pursue any further because accusing him doesn't help his alignment become much clearer." At what point will his alignment become clearer? I'm not a fan of 'wait a few days and if they're still alive, lynch' because we're already going to have quite a few of those in this game. Have you played with a mafia DP before? I have, twice. In Personality 2, all he did was bitch about people pressuring him to contribute as a replacement and coast along until endgame. In Catch 22, he made shitty pushes (namely on me for accusing him) and continually claimed there was no way to catch him because he plays town and scum exactly the same. Sound similar? Hence my initial suspicion.
I hard bussed him because he bussed me without permission. He's still mad about it. That's why he got lynched D1. You're welcome!
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Here's something interesting guys. Remember I posted about this?
On September 21 2013 13:16 DarthPunk wrote:Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 21 2013 13:02 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 21 2013 12:58 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i say this, you should listen to me. I am the king of unreasonable arguments... How is my argument unreasonable? He clearly used meta and then flat out denied it. tbh i read blabla than bölalalal then blalansaös. Seemed like a shitfest for nothing. Wanna lynch Koshi btw? Not particularly. Although you are the Koshi master. What is it about him that you don't like? Koshi is devolving in this game. Look at his last town games (in chronological order). Compare them to this game and GoT. Wasn't he town in Persona 4? Can't really tell the difference. But if you are really confident in your read of koshi I will back you later.
Well, rayn was confident later, and DP didn't back him.
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On September 23 2013 07:23 raynpelikoneet wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 07:22 Koshi wrote:
Also people know you want to lynch me rayn. What are your other reads? Sentinel, Chairman Ray, Risen.
Cool.
Chairman Ray wants to lynch me.
Now look at your townreads. Do they want to lynch me?
Is mocsta a townread for you? Is VA?
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On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.
Yes, I think I can get him lynched.
Since we still have a few hours left, I would like to discuss the reads you have one me right now so I don't get voted on impulse very last second.
I don't buy your reasoning on why I should be the one lynched. I think that anyone can make any sort of opening post, whether they are scum or town. So what if there's one mafia in one of your previous games that made a terrible first post? In your history of mafia, has there never been a town that made a terrible first post? Also, what is your opinion on my reads so far? I appreciate that you commented on my LM read, and hopefully I managed to answer your question. I hope that maybe we could discuss things a bit more rather than you just shrugging off my reads as poor attempts of scumhunting.
Right now I think there are far better people to lynch, like koshi. I just f5ed the thread, and he still hasn't made any mention on why he's voting me. I respect you for voting me, and following up with a lot of good analysis and valid questions, but all koshi did was vote me in the voting thread, and never even mentioned it here. What's that's supposed to accomplish? It doesn't put any more pressure on me, it doesn't give any information, or anything. He's probably hoping that it would go unnoticed. I'm starting to think that he's scum and he's joining the bandwagon on me.
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On September 23 2013 07:24 marvellosity wrote:Here's something interesting guys. Remember I posted about this? Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:16 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 21 2013 13:02 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 21 2013 12:58 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i say this, you should listen to me. I am the king of unreasonable arguments... How is my argument unreasonable? He clearly used meta and then flat out denied it. tbh i read blabla than bölalalal then blalansaös. Seemed like a shitfest for nothing. Wanna lynch Koshi btw? Not particularly. Although you are the Koshi master. What is it about him that you don't like? Koshi is devolving in this game. Look at his last town games (in chronological order). Compare them to this game and GoT. Wasn't he town in Persona 4? Can't really tell the difference. But if you are really confident in your read of koshi I will back you later. Well, rayn was confident later, and DP didn't back him.
Well, DP read some of my filters from other games and decided not to lynch me.
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On September 23 2013 07:24 marvellosity wrote:Here's something interesting guys. Remember I posted about this? Show nested quote +On September 21 2013 13:16 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:12 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 21 2013 13:02 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 13:00 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 21 2013 12:58 DarthPunk wrote:On September 21 2013 12:53 raynpelikoneet wrote:
If i say this, you should listen to me. I am the king of unreasonable arguments... How is my argument unreasonable? He clearly used meta and then flat out denied it. tbh i read blabla than bölalalal then blalansaös. Seemed like a shitfest for nothing. Wanna lynch Koshi btw? Not particularly. Although you are the Koshi master. What is it about him that you don't like? Koshi is devolving in this game. Look at his last town games (in chronological order). Compare them to this game and GoT. Wasn't he town in Persona 4? Can't really tell the difference. But if you are really confident in your read of koshi I will back you later. Well, rayn was confident later, and DP didn't back him.
Was he reminded of this since?
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