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yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 22 2013 21:56 GMT
#1501
On September 23 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 06:52 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:45 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm basically rallying for Sentinel btw. He played more effectively when he was in 4 games at a time during Smurf.


5*

In which game was that? Smurf? I posted the bare minimum to keep up and piggybacked on other people's reads

And yet you looked town! I can't say that here.

That's like job #1, right?


Bullshit I looked town. I tunneled Eccleston, showed up only when someone knew I was missing, tried my hardest not to look suspicious, and the only reason I stayed alive as long as I did was because I defended myself decently well and nobody could pin anything on me.

That's also what I did in Roulette which I played concurrently IIRC, with Vayne swapped in for Eccleston

Lol fuck

Maybe you looked town because I knew you were town (as PT2.0). Let me get to my computer, do some reading. If not you, then who? Is it you vs Koshi and some Chairman Ray campaigners?


Well there's yamato but that's out of the question for you, right?

And then there's LoneMeow bandwagon, but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment.

If you seriously think I am mafia, you need to explain yourself better than you have so far.
Writer@WriterYamato
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 22 2013 21:56 GMT
#1502
WoS just gave me the feels guys.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 22 2013 21:57 GMT
#1503
On September 23 2013 03:26 Chairman Ray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 22 2013 22:20 yamato77 wrote:
On September 22 2013 09:57 Chairman Ray wrote:
Hey everyone, this is my first post here. Sorry I haven't been around since the start since I was pretty busy, but I'm definitely going to dedicate a few hours today and tomorrow doing my best to contribute.

This is my third game of forum mafia. I have played real time mafia as well. Even though I'm a lot less experienced than most people here, I'll pull my weight just fine and I don't expect any newbie lenience.

Last game I learned that it's quite difficult to get strong reads on people during the day. Most my reads at the start were quite off. A lot of town said scummy things, and a lot of scum were quite pro town. However during the final hour when thing started being messy, there were strong reads everywhere. So this game I will try to focus on making things very difficult for scum during the last hour. If a town ends up being lynched day 1, I want as much information to come out of it as possible.

So feel free to ask me anything and I will try to be as transparent as possible. If I see something fishy, I will definitely try to flush you out as well.


This dude is now the best lynch in the game, for quite obvious reasons.

##Vote: Chairman Ray


Why are you voting me? Whatever reasons you believe aren't so obvious to me. Not saying that your reasons are wrong, but if you don't have a lot of confidence that I'm town, we definitely should be discussing this.


Tell me, why should anyone have any confidence that you are town? What do you think you've done that might give someone any sort of townread on you?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 22 2013 22:00 GMT
#1504
On September 23 2013 06:56 ObviousOne wrote:
WoS who you want to talk about?

Town sentiment is irrelevant if you're town.

I'm glad you think so but I've posted 4-5 things in this game that have gone completely ignored because they weren't 'current topics.'

yamato I'm kind of surprised at Rayn/Mocsta being your top two. Do you think you can get either of them lynched today?
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 22 2013 22:00 GMT
#1505
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.

Yes, I think I can get him lynched.
Writer@WriterYamato
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 22 2013 22:06 GMT
#1506
On September 23 2013 07:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 06:56 ObviousOne wrote:
WoS who you want to talk about?

Town sentiment is irrelevant if you're town.

I'm glad you think so but I've posted 4-5 things in this game that have gone completely ignored because they weren't 'current topics.'

yamato I'm kind of surprised at Rayn/Mocsta being your top two. Do you think you can get either of them lynched today?

More information betta.

Okay I'm at my computer now yay!

Full re-assessment on Sentinel on my end starting in the background.

@Sent LoneMeow was the one who was replying to stuff half the game back, right? I did that my first scum game, lol. I think I also did it in a town game as well (Fruity?). That's the major thing I remember about him.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 22 2013 22:06 GMT
#1507
Good god this LoneMeow stuff is weird
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 22 2013 22:07 GMT
#1508
LoneMeow and/or Stutters, are you around?
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 22 2013 22:08 GMT
#1509
On September 23 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:52 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:45 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm basically rallying for Sentinel btw. He played more effectively when he was in 4 games at a time during Smurf.


5*

In which game was that? Smurf? I posted the bare minimum to keep up and piggybacked on other people's reads

And yet you looked town! I can't say that here.

That's like job #1, right?


Bullshit I looked town. I tunneled Eccleston, showed up only when someone knew I was missing, tried my hardest not to look suspicious, and the only reason I stayed alive as long as I did was because I defended myself decently well and nobody could pin anything on me.

That's also what I did in Roulette which I played concurrently IIRC, with Vayne swapped in for Eccleston

Lol fuck

Maybe you looked town because I knew you were town (as PT2.0). Let me get to my computer, do some reading. If not you, then who? Is it you vs Koshi and some Chairman Ray campaigners?


Well there's yamato but that's out of the question for you, right?

And then there's LoneMeow bandwagon, but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment.

If you seriously think I am mafia, you need to explain yourself better than you have so far.


What I don't understand is how you easily rule out the possibility that Ray does truly have no idea what's going on, and the difficulty with coming up with arguments other than sheeping the easiest lynch is a symptom of that problem. Yes, it would be a scumread in a more experienced player, but looking at Ray's profile history he's come out of a newbie game recently. I don't get why you don't pursue your other reads more.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#1510
On September 22 2013 23:54 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
I think despite Umasi's allegations to the contrary, he's been contributing nothing of value. After LoneMeow leaves he decides that since he can't get anymore fuel, he'll unvote. And then really all he talks about is people who aren't scummy looking.

I'm switching from Stutters to him because at least with Umasi, if he does end up flipping red then his filter becomes more useful than Stutters who just pushed kush all day. Since apparently pressuring him isn't working and he's lurking harder than ever. We could vig stutters though.

I don't like yamato's big post either. He calls DP mafia, rayn scummy, and then quotes Ray's fluffpost and says HE'S THE SCUM. And he's really got nothing else to show, especially afterwards he doesn't rationalize anything. I'm leaning red on him. Umasi seems more red to me but yamato has more to show for further analysis if he flips red.

But I'll keep my vote on Umasi for now.

##Unvote
##Vote: Umasi


Otherwise, out of the filter dives I want to say something about WoS but I can't quite put my finger on it. Perhaps I'll say something about him and also Koshi when I get back.

Someone look at this first paragraph with me and tell me how it is or it not analogous to "don't want to vote FT since he can't defend himself"
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#1511
On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.

Yes, I think I can get him lynched.

Oh, flerp. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah, you probably can get him lynched. I'm not sold on him being scum>bad town though. I'd probably lean towards him being bad town but I also have a bad track record of giving people the 'bad town' benefit of the doubt when they may not deserve it. I feel more strongly about Lonemeow being 'bad town' than Ray and Ray himself seems to be comfortable with his LM vote....

On September 23 2013 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 05:46 Mattchew wrote:
Yamato i voted you to see how angry you would get... I dont sense the fury in that post

I'm intentionally not tilting this game.

It's easier to do in forum mafia than in Voice. If you OMGUS and yell at your accusers, you become DP.

What I really want to talk about is DP v FT because I'm still pretty bothered by many of DP's reactions this game. I am aware you're currently still leaning town on him but I wonder if you know what a mafia DP is capable of? I have never played in a game where DP was mafia.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 22 2013 22:09 GMT
#1512
not FT, LoneMeow**
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
September 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#1513
What are you implying there?
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 22 2013 22:11 GMT
#1514
On September 23 2013 07:08 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 06:56 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:55 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:52 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:47 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:45 ObviousOne wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:42 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
On September 23 2013 06:40 ObviousOne wrote:
I'm basically rallying for Sentinel btw. He played more effectively when he was in 4 games at a time during Smurf.


5*

In which game was that? Smurf? I posted the bare minimum to keep up and piggybacked on other people's reads

And yet you looked town! I can't say that here.

That's like job #1, right?


Bullshit I looked town. I tunneled Eccleston, showed up only when someone knew I was missing, tried my hardest not to look suspicious, and the only reason I stayed alive as long as I did was because I defended myself decently well and nobody could pin anything on me.

That's also what I did in Roulette which I played concurrently IIRC, with Vayne swapped in for Eccleston

Lol fuck

Maybe you looked town because I knew you were town (as PT2.0). Let me get to my computer, do some reading. If not you, then who? Is it you vs Koshi and some Chairman Ray campaigners?


Well there's yamato but that's out of the question for you, right?

And then there's LoneMeow bandwagon, but I want to see LM defend himself/post reads before making judgment.

If you seriously think I am mafia, you need to explain yourself better than you have so far.


What I don't understand is how you easily rule out the possibility that Ray does truly have no idea what's going on, and the difficulty with coming up with arguments other than sheeping the easiest lynch is a symptom of that problem. Yes, it would be a scumread in a more experienced player, but looking at Ray's profile history he's come out of a newbie game recently. I don't get why you don't pursue your other reads more.

I think if you read his posts, he has a clear understanding of what's happening in the game.
Writer@WriterYamato
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 22 2013 22:13 GMT
#1515
On September 23 2013 07:11 [UoN]Sentinel wrote:
What are you implying there?

You're calling Umasi scum for something you are doing yourself, is what I'm implying, if my reading comprehension is working.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 22 2013 22:15 GMT
#1516
On September 23 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.

Yes, I think I can get him lynched.

Oh, flerp. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah, you probably can get him lynched. I'm not sold on him being scum>bad town though. I'd probably lean towards him being bad town but I also have a bad track record of giving people the 'bad town' benefit of the doubt when they may not deserve it. I feel more strongly about Lonemeow being 'bad town' than Ray and Ray himself seems to be comfortable with his LM vote....

Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 05:46 Mattchew wrote:
Yamato i voted you to see how angry you would get... I dont sense the fury in that post

I'm intentionally not tilting this game.

It's easier to do in forum mafia than in Voice. If you OMGUS and yell at your accusers, you become DP.

What I really want to talk about is DP v FT because I'm still pretty bothered by many of DP's reactions this game. I am aware you're currently still leaning town on him but I wonder if you know what a mafia DP is capable of? I have never played in a game where DP was mafia.

Generally even bad town don't continually make posts that effectively say nothing.

I'm not leaning town on DP. I'm firmly null on him. My official stance is "not going to pursue any further because accusing him doesn't help his alignment become much clearer."
Writer@WriterYamato
ObviousOne
Profile Joined April 2012
United States3704 Posts
September 22 2013 22:15 GMT
#1517
Sent what's your case on Yamato? I see the reasoning as "third scum read" and that was it.
Fear is the only darkness. ~Destiny Fan Club operator~
yamato77
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
11589 Posts
September 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#1518
@Marv

What do you think of my updated reads? Please comment on them when you come across them.
Writer@WriterYamato
marvellosity
Profile Joined January 2011
United Kingdom36161 Posts
September 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#1519
On September 23 2013 07:00 WaveofShadow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 06:56 ObviousOne wrote:
WoS who you want to talk about?

Town sentiment is irrelevant if you're town.

I'm glad you think so but I've posted 4-5 things in this game that have gone completely ignored because they weren't 'current topics.'

yamato I'm kind of surprised at Rayn/Mocsta being your top two. Do you think you can get either of them lynched today?


Why are you surprised? yamato's pushes look better than I'm used to seeing from him on day 1 actually (sorry yam). I've found what he's written quite persuasive.
[15:15] <Palmar> and yes marv, you're a total hottie
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
September 22 2013 22:16 GMT
#1520
On September 23 2013 07:15 yamato77 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 23 2013 07:09 WaveofShadow wrote:
On September 23 2013 07:00 yamato77 wrote:
Chairman Ray, not Rayn.

Yes, I think I can get him lynched.

Oh, flerp. That makes a lot more sense. Yeah, you probably can get him lynched. I'm not sold on him being scum>bad town though. I'd probably lean towards him being bad town but I also have a bad track record of giving people the 'bad town' benefit of the doubt when they may not deserve it. I feel more strongly about Lonemeow being 'bad town' than Ray and Ray himself seems to be comfortable with his LM vote....

On September 23 2013 05:47 yamato77 wrote:
On September 23 2013 05:46 Mattchew wrote:
Yamato i voted you to see how angry you would get... I dont sense the fury in that post

I'm intentionally not tilting this game.

It's easier to do in forum mafia than in Voice. If you OMGUS and yell at your accusers, you become DP.

What I really want to talk about is DP v FT because I'm still pretty bothered by many of DP's reactions this game. I am aware you're currently still leaning town on him but I wonder if you know what a mafia DP is capable of? I have never played in a game where DP was mafia.

Generally even bad town don't continually make posts that effectively say nothing.

I'm not leaning town on DP. I'm firmly null on him. My official stance is "not going to pursue any further because accusing him doesn't help his alignment become much clearer."

At what point will his alignment become clearer?
I'm not a fan of 'wait a few days and if they're still alive, lynch' because we're already going to have quite a few of those in this game. Have you played with a mafia DP before?
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