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justanothertownie
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:39 marvellosity wrote: Btw, I'm not sure what I make of DP read-wise, and I highly, highly doubt I'd push for his lynch today, so I'm not sure how productive it is to talk about it now, especially as he's not here to explain it himself. Well as we're nearing deadline, who do you think the topics of conversation should be? LM/Ray? Anyone else? I wouldn't be surprised if it comes down to those two and they both end up simply being newbie town, and I don't feel good about that. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:43 justanothertownie wrote: So, who are the lynch candidates worth looking into right now? Ray/Koshi/?... I won't be here for the lynch (impossible time for me) so I will have to find a target soon. Don't lynch Koshi. He is town. | ||
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Stutters695
2610 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:35 marvellosity wrote: Thanks Stutters. I can't even explain why I asked you that very well, but yeah. Thanks anyway haha. Given the Ray/LM interactions, what does that do to your read on both of them? Basically doesn't change my opinion of LM, but I'd say Ray looks a lot better from it Not saying it's impossible they're both mafia, but that interaction doesn't feel staged. | ||
yamato77
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:45 yamato77 wrote: If people don't feel good about lynching Ray, I'd be more than happy leading the gallows to Mocsta. Yes! He posted a baby seal and it is against the law to post babyseals when you are town. | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
Sorry, coming from you that is not very convincing.^^ I am really missing your aggressive light hearted playstyle. You seem to be very passive this game. | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:30 yamato77 wrote: I explained that Koshi said he was sheeping me in voting you; this is not something that is extraordinary for town Koshi to do, in my opinion. If you think he's scum, what other reasoning would you put forward to justify this read, aside from that? Town make bad posts, yes, but scum make posts like yours. It's not a singular game of experience that I draw from, it is from vast experience in 20+ mafia games of my own in addition to the wonderful analysis Ver gave of my own opening post as scum in Sicilian that made me rethink how I view starting posts. You have a lot of history with koshi, but this is my first time playing with him. With that being given, do you think my read on him was reasonable? Right now, I still believe koshi may be scum. I might be willing to accept that he just followed your vote in the first place, but he's active in this thread right now, I'm inviting him to give me some analysis on why he's voting me, and there still hasn't been anything yet. I still disagree with your analysis on my first post. You may have an extensive experience, but that doesn't mean you are correct. In this case, you definitely do have a misread on me, but I hope that we can resolve that now instead of post game. At the same time, I made a lot of rookie mistakes that caused you to have such a strong scumread on me. I would like to win this game so if there's any way that I could make myself easier to read for you and everyone else here, feel free to say it. If I could improve now, that may mean the difference between a win and a loss. Otherwise I'll probably be seeking your help postgame. Right now my radar is still on koshi despite you disagreeing with me. However if you are confident that he's town, then I could use some of your analysis as well on why he is, so I have a more educated vote. I still would like to hear from koshi on why he's voting me. | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
Koshi, why are you STILL passive as fuck? You promised us a whirlwind of activity. | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:47 justanothertownie wrote: Sorry, coming from you that is not very convincing.^^ I am really missing your aggressive light hearted playstyle. You seem to be very passive this game. Why can't I be town without being aggressive & light hearted? | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote: You have a lot of history with koshi, but this is my first time playing with him. With that being given, do you think my read on him was reasonable? Right now, I still believe koshi may be scum. I might be willing to accept that he just followed your vote in the first place, but he's active in this thread right now, I'm inviting him to give me some analysis on why he's voting me, and there still hasn't been anything yet. I still disagree with your analysis on my first post. You may have an extensive experience, but that doesn't mean you are correct. In this case, you definitely do have a misread on me, but I hope that we can resolve that now instead of post game. At the same time, I made a lot of rookie mistakes that caused you to have such a strong scumread on me. I would like to win this game so if there's any way that I could make myself easier to read for you and everyone else here, feel free to say it. If I could improve now, that may mean the difference between a win and a loss. Otherwise I'll probably be seeking your help postgame. Right now my radar is still on koshi despite you disagreeing with me. However if you are confident that he's town, then I could use some of your analysis as well on why he is, so I have a more educated vote. I still would like to hear from koshi on why he's voting me. This is a reasonable position, we may yet work from here. Koshi, do you have any other reason for voting Ray than because you think I am town? I am not infallible. | ||
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raynpelikoneet
Finland43270 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:24 Koshi wrote: Cool. Chairman Ray wants to lynch me. Now look at your townreads. Do they want to lynch me? Is mocsta a townread for you? Is VA? wtf has my townreads / Chariman Ray wanting/not wanting to lynch you have to do with your alignment (or his alignment)? Whenever has VA wanted to lynch you? I don't have a scumread on Mocsta atm, can't say he's town either. Btw when did you exactly drop your scumread on WoS and why? | ||
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Koshi
Belgium38799 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:47 Chairman Ray wrote: You have a lot of history with koshi, but this is my first time playing with him. With that being given, do you think my read on him was reasonable? Right now, I still believe koshi may be scum. I might be willing to accept that he just followed your vote in the first place, but he's active in this thread right now, I'm inviting him to give me some analysis on why he's voting me, and there still hasn't been anything yet. I still disagree with your analysis on my first post. You may have an extensive experience, but that doesn't mean you are correct. In this case, you definitely do have a misread on me, but I hope that we can resolve that now instead of post game. At the same time, I made a lot of rookie mistakes that caused you to have such a strong scumread on me. I would like to win this game so if there's any way that I could make myself easier to read for you and everyone else here, feel free to say it. If I could improve now, that may mean the difference between a win and a loss. Otherwise I'll probably be seeking your help postgame. Right now my radar is still on koshi despite you disagreeing with me. However if you are confident that he's town, then I could use some of your analysis as well on why he is, so I have a more educated vote. I still would like to hear from koshi on why he's voting me. How can you be still on me? You had 2 reasons to be on me? 1) I voted you without reason Answer: I voted you because I sheeped total townread yamato. People that think yamato is scum are not very intelligent. 2) I asked for consolidation and you thought that was bad for town. Anwser: It isn't bad for town. So your 2 shitty reasons were denied and you are still on me? wtf is that all about? | ||
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marvellosity
United Kingdom36161 Posts
On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote: I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try. Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though. ##Vote: Umasi Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote: Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! | ||
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Chairman Ray
United States11903 Posts
##Unvote I'll brb in an hour or so | ||
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justanothertownie
16322 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:48 Koshi wrote: Why can't I be town without being aggressive & light hearted? I don't know if you can - I didn't play with scum Koshi. It just doesn't feel like the town Koshi I know. | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
I've re-read through Sentinel three times and I'm seeing the bigger picture here, gonna unvote him. He's at least talking and while his vote towards Yamato is weak, his previous votes are all fine for what they are. I also buy his response regarding the vote thing. ##unvote: [UoN]Sentinel | ||
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yamato77
11589 Posts
On September 23 2013 07:54 ObviousOne wrote: Talk to us about Mocsta. I've re-read through Sentinel three times and I'm seeing the bigger picture here, gonna unvote him. He's at least talking and while his vote towards Yamato is weak, his previous votes are all fine for what they are. I also buy his response regarding the vote thing. ##unvote: [UoN]Sentinel Read my posts about Mocsta. Do you agree or disagree with my evaluation of his play and its implications? | ||
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ObviousOne
United States3704 Posts
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