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On September 23 2013 08:14 geript wrote:
Oh yah, and I didn't get a towny feel from Mattchew but i forget why.
I feel so left out =[
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On September 23 2013 08:16 marvellosity wrote:
geript, can you explain your Mocsta read please?
He's using Moc logic which is something he only does as town.
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On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming.
I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that 
Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia".
Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi?
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On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.
No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?'
I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give.
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On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming. I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi?
I do , and he should probably explain that---it may have something to do with the fact that Umasi (I THINK it was Umasi) had at that point only played scum in all of his newbie games or something, and that was ingrained into his reads of Umasi somehow?
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On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming. I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi?
FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though.
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On September 23 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things. No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?' I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give.
Not in my opinion. How I see it is like me you care but don't want to.
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geript, MocLogic is not a good enough explanation.
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On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things.
Wut
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On September 23 2013 08:20 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming. I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi? I do , and he should probably explain that---it may have something to do with the fact that Umasi (I THINK it was Umasi) had at that point only played scum in all of his newbie games or something, and that was ingrained into his reads of Umasi somehow?
Ya. It's why I'm enormously annoyed that LM just fucked off. Notice how he didn't even give ONE REASON in this game why Umasi is mafia. He's biased against him - that's possibly bullshit, possibly true, but why is Umasi mafia this game? Why run away? If he's town this behaviour is pretty disgraceful as being from Finland he's probably not going to be back before deadline. It stinks but I'm not sure if it's lynchable-stinks right now.
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On September 23 2013 08:20 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:18 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:17 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:10 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 08:05 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 07:51 marvellosity wrote:On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
##Vote: Umasi
Here for a while if you want to ask me something. By the way, this is total bullshit. On June 11 2013 05:11 LoneMeow wrote:On June 10 2013 23:43 LoneMeow wrote:
I'm really not so sure about StiMaDDict anymore, though, I'm more tempted to think one of Umasi/Xzavier is a better candidate. Umasi has been relatively noncommittal and sheeping a lot for the whole game, while Xzavier's actions since the Firere345 lynch have been almost non-existent which is very suspicious given how he was one of the driving forces for discussion during day 1. The problem here is, I think only one of them is scum but I can't tell which. Still can't really tell which, though if I had to choose I'd pick Umasi. Both being scum is also possible but I don't consider that super likely right now. ##Vote: Umasi This is the only time (as town) LoneMeow has ever mentioned Umasi. "Notoriously biased" based on this? Really?! He's probably talking about their newbie game interaction, marv. Come on, it's not rocket science. Read what I wrote again, learn to read, then respond again. Thanks Wave. Hint: check the timestamp of the 2nd quote. Do you mean it is literally the only time LM EVER mentioned Umasi? I assumed you meant in this game. Don't condescend to me marv. It's unbecoming. I won't condescend if you don't assume I'm being an ass when I'm not known for being dumb like that Yes, I mean it's literally the only time ever. Lone has played two towngames, of which Umasi was in one, and that quote (and the nested one inside it) were the only times he mentioned Umasi. And the mentions were "i kinda think maybe he's scum or maybe this other player, i guess umasi is mafia". Do you understand now why I have my eyebrows massively raised at his contention that he's massively biased against Umasi? FWIW I either coached or hosted or something one of those games as I remember and IIRC there was a big thing afterwards about Lone always and forever from then on thinking Umasi is scum. I could be wrong though and be attributing that somewhere else though.
Could you do me a favour and try to have a quick look? I can't imagine where it would be and it would be super helpful.
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On September 23 2013 08:14 geript wrote:
Ok I'm back. I've been keeping up reading but not much else.
People I think are town for various reasons:
Koshi
Mocsta
Yamato
Marv
Rayn
People I'm happy to see lynched
DarthPunk--Obv scum
Tofu--hella weird game, I'm leaning towards scum over super butthurt
Vayne--GTFO 2 posts not even attempting to play the game. If I were a host I'd modkill him and ask for a ban for not even trying to play
WoS--I don't see him really taking any sort of responsibility in this game and that's something I associate with his town play and something I caught onto in his last game (3P) I'd be happy with a lynch there. Plus, he hasn't been bitching about the complete lurkage or really trying to push me either direction. Would shoot after DP.
Complete Lurker List
Xzavier
Cephiro
Zenatsu
gumshoe
Onegu
I'm betting that there's 2-3 scum in this list so the "safe lynch" would be among these guys as I'm mostly ok with everyone's posting.
People I want to see more out of:
Pandain--Just crazy shit left and right; feels like he's disinterested which makes far more sense from a scum perspective right now
Chairman--All I see is a mental struggle in what/how to post but that's something I expect. Need more thought process.
Lol I'm impressed---I've actually been holding back regarding lurker bitching this game because people tend to call me out for it for dumbass reasons. Suffice it to say I'm still plenty pissed we're going to have like 5 modkills, but outside of those the lurk isn't THAT bad. If you look through my filter though I did make a post on what I feel should be done with lurkers.
Why is DP obvscum, G-ript?
And since DP refused to do it, do you mind looking at my analysis of FT's first post and telling me what you think?
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On September 23 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:11 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 08:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Yeah let's do Mocsta. Why? The reasons you came up with are not lining up for me. Because he's disruptive and a jerk and It will make me feel good.
Can you expand this reasoning to include specific references?
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On September 23 2013 08:23 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 08:11 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 08:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Yeah let's do Mocsta. Why? The reasons you came up with are not lining up for me. Because he's disruptive and a jerk and It will make me feel good. Can you expand this reasoning to include specific references?
No thanks. I'm good.
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On September 23 2013 08:21 geript wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:19 WaveofShadow wrote:On September 23 2013 08:16 geript wrote:On September 22 2013 13:15 Mattchew wrote:
I am not allowed to read into wave's confidence right cause apparently he is always on fucks given level -100? Oh yah, this is why. There's no way to really know how many fucks a player gives unless you know his alignment. This just seems like a really weird statement from a town perspective as a 1 of in the middle of things. No, he's basing this on our VOICE MAFIA games, in which it was explained to him that I give zero fucks as any alignment. I have stated that I don't find a great deal of correlation between VOICE MAFIA play and forum mafia play though aside from certain cases though (kush), but I don't think Mattchew knows my stance on that. I do remember reading this and thinking, 'Wait, is he really reading me based on the two VM games we played together?' I tend to give more fucks in forum mafia though the more I play, the fewer fucks I give. Not in my opinion. How I see it is like me you care but don't want to.
Can you rewrite that so it's understandable by someone who isn't living in your head?
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On September 23 2013 08:24 ObviousOne wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:23 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 08:11 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 08:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Yeah let's do Mocsta. Why? The reasons you came up with are not lining up for me. Because he's disruptive and a jerk and It will make me feel good. Can you expand this reasoning to include specific references? No thanks. I'm good.
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On September 23 2013 08:25 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:24 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 08:23 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote:On September 23 2013 08:11 yamato77 wrote:On September 23 2013 08:08 ObviousOne wrote:
Yeah let's do Mocsta. Why? The reasons you came up with are not lining up for me. Because he's disruptive and a jerk and It will make me feel good. Can you expand this reasoning to include specific references? No thanks. I'm good. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Look, when I'm mafia, I LOVE THAT HE'S IN THE GAME. His hubris fucks up towns so bad that it's like he's an extra teammate. Now, I want him gone.
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Also wave im not basing it on just my vm games, its based on every person in the game saying you are confident as fuck regardless of alignment
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Marv, how do you feel about hanging an asshole aussie?
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On September 23 2013 08:02 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 08:01 Koshi wrote:
@yamato77: Well, his first post was a really easy way for scum to enter the thread. Say some stuff about himself mainly that his reads are bad and that you shouldn't pay too much attention to him. Ending with being open for questions if there are any.
@rayn: WoS made a big ass post about secret taktics and it reminded me of his sekret tactics in Persona.
@marv: I am here, reading everything. I don't know what to do.
@JAT: Yes, I play different this time. I think it is because it is a big game now. I don't remember what I did right in Aperture that I am not doing now, probably activity. Read through his vote on LoneMeow and give me your honest interpretation.
On September 23 2013 04:31 Chairman Ray wrote:Show nested quote +On September 23 2013 04:14 LoneMeow wrote:
I can't get a scum read on anyone but Umasi, and I'm notoriously biased against him so that's almost guaranteed to be wrong. I'll vote him anyway since I have to vote someone. Not sure I'll wake up for the deadline but I'll try.
Chairman Ray is lynchbait like in my last newbie, so probably town. IMHO his "last hour shenigans" plan is terrible, though.
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Here for a while if you want to ask me something. Why would you say that voting Umasi is a terrible idea, yet vote him anyways? It seems to me like you are scum trying to get achieve a town mislynch D1, but unable to muster up any strong cases on anybody. So instead of posting a weak case against them and have everyone call you out on it, you beat us to the punch by telling us your case is poor to begin with. If you are really town, then a town who intentionally makes a bad vote is still hurting town.##Vote: LoneMeow
I actually have no problem with the reason why CR voted LM. But that last sentence is really strange. Remove that last sentence and I actually like it, but that last sentence is just strange. Don't know why that was added.
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