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On July 23 2013 06:53 tribulator wrote: I hope blizzards announcement is something to the liking of "After having received over 250 emails from valve addresses only containing the text "hahahahah", we have decided to reschedule for the weekend after".
Totally made my day, thanks ^^
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The overlap between WCS EU and WCS AM is going to be minimal.
California is 9 hours behind Germany. So if AM at 10am local (guesstimate), it'll be 7pm in EU and potentially already over or in the last series. If you delayed until 11 or 12 it wouldn't be an issue at all.
WCS KR will only be on the Saturday morning as it is just the final, so clashes with EU, but shouldn't be too much of an issue as it should start at least 2 hours before EU does, so should only clash with the first series at worst.
It will be hard to follow both EU and AM for sure, but it's certainly not the first time there has been a large EU event followed by a large AM event.
The only thing that truly sucks is the clash with the International 3 as I know, myself included, that a lot of people watch both games. There is also the largest CoD4 event of the year on the same dates (EU time) just to be truly annoying for some.
I also worry about Twitch, hopefully a large amount of people watch in-game for dota.
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On July 23 2013 18:10 SkelA wrote: TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
Sucks for every SC2 spectator getting fucked if you follow both SC2 and Dota2 and not to mention the 99.99% twitch failure thats bound to happen. At least Dota2 has DotaTV and SC2 has only Twitch to fall back to. I completely agree man.. so disappoint with Blizzard.
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Watch TI3 ingame and everything is fine.
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On July 23 2013 18:24 akaRobin wrote: Watch TI3 ingame and everything is fine.
or on the streaming service from youtube, godz tweeted, that they will use that as well.
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What ever, I rather play sc2 myself and watch most popular VOD's later over the week.
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good thing I don't care about TI3 thing, will make it easy for me but atleast I learned a bit about it in this thread. But Gamescon is just perfect for it and ESL. The TI3 date is known since April, so I rather wonder how this slipped past 3 organizers and Blizzard, atleast I would rather have the Ro32 a bit more cramped rather then the Region Finals colliding with TI.
Atleast next year they will have a few extra month for their triple season, hopefully that will prevent this stuff.
Edit: lol nvm sc2 event after sc2 event, those should have priority to avoid over other things even if its TI.
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TI3 would be streamed via youtube too apparently. source is Godz
Edit : Crap, Godz just backed out, he said it was just word of mouth. Haha
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On July 23 2013 18:51 Anima.pk wrote: TI3 would be streamed via youtube too apparently. source is Godz
in addition to being streamed on twitch, so expect a ton of people to still watch on twitch. Advice for everyone who can watch TI3 ingame, do that. Horrible lag will happen this weekend, dotaTV should be much better than twitch
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On July 23 2013 18:10 SkelA wrote: TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
What happened to SC2 and blizzard in general?
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On July 23 2013 18:56 Sissors wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 18:10 SkelA wrote: TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
What happened to SC2 and blizzard in general?
the new wcs system happened. bnet0.2. do i need to continue?
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What's wrong with the new WCS system? Yeah WCS AM not biggest success, but I thought everyone was really happy about how WCS EU turned out. for KR not much of a change.
Also no idea what happened with bnet that apparantly is so horrible, but if you hate it so much, then you don't watch anyway. So how does it affect you again?
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On July 23 2013 19:00 graNite wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 18:56 Sissors wrote:On July 23 2013 18:10 SkelA wrote: TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
What happened to SC2 and blizzard in general? the new wcs system happened. bnet0.2. do i need to continue? Yes. Throw all your fellings (Hate), it can make you feel better.
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On July 23 2013 19:15 Sissors wrote: What's wrong with the new WCS system? Yeah WCS AM not biggest success, but I thought everyone was really happy about how WCS EU turned out. for KR not much of a change.
Also no idea what happened with bnet that apparantly is so horrible, but if you hate it so much, then you don't watch anyway. So how does it affect you again?
People are just finding things to hate on. The only problem with the new WCS system is that it took far too long for Blizzard to implement in AM and EU, especially when you consider how much money was thrown at the first gsl qualifiers and how this could have been distributed to the other regions more. But back then Kr was still Blizzard's favorite.
As for Bnet, laddering is great but everything else continues to be bland and empty. It still feels very lonely, the complete opposite of WC3 and Age Of Empires 2 at it's height.
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On July 23 2013 19:15 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:00 graNite wrote:On July 23 2013 18:56 Sissors wrote:On July 23 2013 18:10 SkelA wrote: TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
What happened to SC2 and blizzard in general? the new wcs system happened. bnet0.2. do i need to continue? Yes. Throw all your fellings (Hate), it can make you feel better.
Its not hate, its sadness.
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On July 23 2013 19:15 Taipoka wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 19:00 graNite wrote:On July 23 2013 18:56 Sissors wrote:On July 23 2013 18:10 SkelA wrote: TI2 made me switch 100% from watching BW/SC2 last year and I regret nothing seeing what happened with SC2 and blizzard in general.
What happened to SC2 and blizzard in general? the new wcs system happened. bnet0.2. do i need to continue? Yes. Throw all your fellings (Hate), it can make you feel better.
For some people, it's a much more bitter disappointment. Why is that so hard to understand? They have a game they love but the developer does nothing but fuck up (or at least that's what they think). Would you not be pissed?
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I've never watched dota, I have deactivated all dota related stuff on TL, so for me the whole thing is no big deal. But it really, really sucks for people who love both games. What the hell was Blizzard thinking? They'll definitely lose viewers during the times TI will be on.
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On July 23 2013 05:05 Crytash wrote:Show nested quote +On July 23 2013 04:59 Eury wrote:On July 23 2013 04:55 Plansix wrote:On July 23 2013 04:53 Eury wrote:On July 23 2013 04:50 Crytash wrote:On July 23 2013 04:48 Eury wrote:On July 23 2013 04:45 theacox wrote: I would love it if valve ran Sc2 holy shit it would be amazing. Yeah, ask the CS community about that. Dota 2 lives and dies with Gabe. Last time I checked he was still obese. You realy seem like a hater. In the end there will be people competing for over $2,6 Million, so real esports guys will watch the bigger event. I just prefer watching games that require a bit more skill. I felt the same thing about WoW when it was huge. I didn't watch the million dollar Painkiller tournament either nor CoD. So you think that CS requires more skill that dota 2? Or are you just trolling at this point? CS, Quake, Starcraft etc all requires more skill than dota ever did. Dota was made for people that found Warcraft 3 too challenging. You realy realy should learn how to troll right, you can't even touch anyone who plays Dota with this kind of arguments and even if you are sincere, it is sad, that people think the way you do. Not even pathetic, just said. The complexity of Dota lies not only in the mechanical skills but also in the teamchemistry, the leadership and the social competence of a player. A Player can contribute on so many levels, but it seems you don't want to see this way of playing.
Not even taking sides but what you're saying is outright stupid, you say his way of thinking is sad yet what you say looks like it doesnt require team chemistry, leadership and social competence in CS.
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On July 23 2013 19:47 virpi wrote: I've never watched dota, I have deactivated all dota related stuff on TL, so for me the whole thing is no big deal. But it really, really sucks for people who love both games. What the hell was Blizzard thinking? They'll definitely lose viewers during the times TI will be on.
One of the main concern of this stunt is the twitch servers. Last year, TI2 reached over 500.000 concurrent viewers, and this year it is a lot bigger considering hype, prizepool, anticipation and the fact that the game was officially released and opened to a lot more people.
So the twitch servers will have to deal with additional hundred of thousands of viewers during the finals. And where the Dota community can watch through the Dota client, SC community has no such luxury.
Even if you don't want to watch Dota, you should take offense from this poor planning from Blizzard.
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