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On April 30 2013 11:56 Sermokala wrote: I was quite disipointed by this. Jackie Robinson (first black athlete in US sports with white people) was a superstar in the prime of his career when he strove forward race relations in this nation. He was spat on and insulted by every other team and the fans across the nation.
This guy is going to cash in greatly, never have to play another game again in his life, received a phone call from the president, and will be able to push out of the business anyone who says an odd word to him now, all from day 1 of coming out at the end of anything public that he had to do in his life.
But of course they're the same thing for civil rights in america.
Edit: I'm not trying to take anything away from the guy, he obviously made the best decision he could ever have made. Being in the NBA for that long takes a ton of talent, work ethic, and skill. I just don't see the real difference between him and the other retired openly gay professional athletes that have come out over the years when their career was over. The guy simply isn't an active Athlete in a major american sport. To be honest, I prefer (less)-deserved fame to death threats, slurs, and physical injury.
America's come quite a way since Jim Crow. I'm glad we can handle it this way nowadays.
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On April 30 2013 12:33 RCMDVA wrote: He's probably going to get picked up by somebody next year.
Minimum payroll is going to rise from 85% to 90% of the cap. And the cap itself is expected to go from $50 to $60 or so million.
And the way the veteran minimum salaries work... if he signs for 1-yr 1.5 million the team would count only around $900k to the cap.
And I'm far from a NBA cap guru.. but could he be fishing for some kind of Over-36/Mid-level exemption...so a team would sign him for like 2yrs/$10mil... would that be worth the PR for some team?
If he wants to play he'll have zero problem finding a team. 7 footers can play as long as they actually care to. You can't teach 7 foot.
Good on him coming out. Yeah, he's not Michael Jordan but who cares? It shouldn't matter if he's gay or straight, but pro sports seem way behind the rest of the US in this regard. Either way its a step in the right direction.
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On April 30 2013 11:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:47 DannyJ wrote: Too bad he's essentially an absolute nobody. Yes making it in the NBA isn't like a challenge or anything.
Making it into the NBA doesn't make you a somebody... Sure it's amazingly tough to do but nobody knows you unless you're a star or good.
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On April 30 2013 13:28 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On April 30 2013 11:47 DannyJ wrote: Too bad he's essentially an absolute nobody. Yes making it in the NBA isn't like a challenge or anything. Making it into the NBA doesn't make you a somebody... Sure it's amazingly tough to do but nobody knows you unless you're a star or good.
The better way to say it is being successful in the NBA (aka holding your job without getting demoted to the D-league or to another country's basketball league for a good amount of time) doesn't automatically make you a star. I'm sure he's a somebody to his family, friends, and even teammates.
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On April 30 2013 13:28 GreEny K wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On April 30 2013 11:47 DannyJ wrote: Too bad he's essentially an absolute nobody. Yes making it in the NBA isn't like a challenge or anything. Making it into the NBA doesn't make you a somebody... Sure it's amazingly tough to do but nobody knows you unless you're a star or good.
Rather be an NBA nobody making a few million a year then a nobody on a forum....
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Sweet another gay Thread !
User was warned for this post
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Wow I just lost alot of respect for Chris Broussard....shame. He was one of my favorite sports analysts. Sports and religion should not mix...if you think gay people are going to hell just keep it to yourself.
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i don't get this kind of topics. what is this suppose to mean: if someone can live/train/play with/near/along a gay player for XX years without having previous knowledge of his sex status, means that he can do the same thing for XX years while knowing that said player is gay?. it doesn't make sense to me. of course it's going to be different; maybe not worse, not better, but different for sure.
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Chris Broussard: I believe that’s walking in open rebellion to God and to Jesus Christ. So I would not characterize that person as a Christian because I don’t think the Bible would characterize him as a Christian. He's probably breaking a lot of laws written in the bible himself, he just probably wasn't paying enough attention to them (wearing mixed fibers, just to state one).
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On April 30 2013 13:05 crazyweasel wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 11:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On April 30 2013 11:47 DannyJ wrote: Too bad he's essentially an absolute nobody. Yes making it in the NBA isn't like a challenge or anything. hes still a nobody among the greats who make it in the NBA, im sure most people didnt even know he was a pro in nba. that said, I'm glad he did it, its great for the world of sport, known to be a place for hyper-masculinity(patriachal) socialization. and its great for the society, helps acknowledge and accept differences that are still taboo, and strong particularly in the black community. hmm I think the first openly gay pro was a footballer(soccer), at least i know there was this guy in MTL' impact (MLS team) who came out last year. He's a nobody who's had a steady 10+year career in the NBA. Good for Collins.
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Well this is a good time to show that the vocal minority can't show this person more hatred than the liberal masses support him.
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On April 30 2013 13:43 nicknack wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2013 13:28 GreEny K wrote:On April 30 2013 11:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:On April 30 2013 11:47 DannyJ wrote: Too bad he's essentially an absolute nobody. Yes making it in the NBA isn't like a challenge or anything. Making it into the NBA doesn't make you a somebody... Sure it's amazingly tough to do but nobody knows you unless you're a star or good. Rather be an NBA nobody making a few million a year then a nobody on a forum....
Lol no reason to be so snide. In an attempt to mask your own insecurity by calling out "a nobody on a forum", you miss the point of that post completely. He wasn't bashing this guy, he was just saying that while it's good that he's come out of the closet, it's not massively significant or ground-breaking, since he wasn't a famous superstar; that's a completely reasonable thing to say.
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Topic title is terribly misleading! That being said, I have no idea who he is, nor do I have an interest in the sport, but I have a huge amount of respect for him and his story from what I've read, and the support he's garnered from prominent peers is very heartening.Homophobia in sport has been endemic in the UK for quite some time, and although it's been improving, there is still a long way to go. Hopefully that this act can improve the culture in US sport, as it's improved in the UK, and encourage others to take that step without fear.
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A brave man, first of many hopefully (of the hidden homosexuals).
Let's hope he doesn't get fucked up by homophobia, atleast he's fucking buff and a top athlete, hopefully it'll decrease the chances of him being beat up / discriminated against some.
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Regardless of his achievements be it big or small, heterosexism and homophobia is still pretty bad in sports. One guy I dated who is bisexual is still scared to death to come out because he is a hockey player amongst a really macho group of friends and even though they are all supportive of gay rights (this is Canada btw), they still see homosexuality almost as a girly thing.
Also, we know what happened to Justin Fashanu, whether it was indeed rape or not, the homophobia was prevalent and the language and chants you often hear from footballers and hockey players at times...
However, I have high hopes that this case will be like Gareth Thomas.
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Fuck, I hate these narrow minded remarks, especially that awful crap that Chris Broussard spouted. What has religion to do with this? And who are you to judge people.
Tweets like that only empower the ignorance, hate and phobia of all the blindly following sheep. I have never been able to comprehend how you can hate a person because of his sexual preferences. What's next, we're all going to hate everyone that likes the color orange? Or everyone that likes vanilla ice cream?
I wish Anonymous would take some action against these 'public haters'!
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All the haters saying he is just looking to cash in can go fuck themselves. Jason and his twin brother spent a lot of time at a relative's house when they were growing up and my grandfather knows them reasonably well. Jason is a brilliant and humble guy and he is definitely doing this for the right reasons
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On April 30 2013 22:01 TaphrWesley wrote: Fuck, I hate these narrow minded remarks, especially that awful crap that Chris Broussard spouted. What has religion to do with this? And who are you to judge people.
Tweets like that only empower the ignorance, hate and phobia of all the blindly following sheep. I have never been able to comprehend how you can hate a person because of his sexual preferences. What's next, we're all going to hate everyone that likes the color orange? Or everyone that likes vanilla ice cream?
I wish Anonymous would take some action against these 'public haters'!
welcome to america
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Honestly I dont know why any heterosexual guy would insult gay guys. They are fucking great. Every gay guy means more girls left for the rest of us.
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