Star Citizen | Wing Commander Reborn - Page 16

On December 04 2012 16:31 kollin wrote:


Shhhh.

On December 06 2012 10:42 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
Anything interesting?

On December 06 2012 11:26 mechavoc wrote:
25:00 he talks aboutliving outside the law. NPC and player generated jobs, as well as pirating available. Guilds can hire people to do things, bounties, There will be balance of risk vs reward. Wants to make it viable long term sandbox style with a goal to balance the rewards for different activities. he specfically mentions pirates may make significantly more but for much more risk/cost.

On December 06 2012 11:45 Impervious wrote:

In my view, the best way to balance risk vs reward is to have some kind of completely player-driven free-market system, like EVE has. That way people will naturally balance the risk/reward through trial and error, and decisions they make. It will also make it possible for people who are good at the game to take the bigger risks, because they stand the better chance at succeeding, and will come with much greater rewards.

Seriously, I've never been into any kind of MMO, but once I saw the market system in EVE, I was hooked.

On December 06 2012 11:45 Impervious wrote:

In my view, the best way to balance risk vs reward is to have some kind of completely player-driven free-market system, like EVE has. That way people will naturally balance the risk/reward through trial and error, and decisions they make. It will also make it possible for people who are good at the game to take the bigger risks, because they stand the better chance at succeeding, and will come with much greater rewards.

Seriously, I've never been into any kind of MMO, but once I saw the market system in EVE, I was hooked.

New United NewsOrg

“Does Crime Really Pay?”

The UEE released its annual Crime Report this past week. With more and more people rejecting Citizenship and embracing the darker side of civilization, it raises the age-old question: does crime really pay? When examined as a purely economic business venture, I would have to say, no.

There will always be exceptions, of course. The public eye has seen its share of infamous smugglers and pirates who have made a killing by defying the law. In my research, I learned that the true entrepreneurs of illegality are the ones who aren’t notorious, who don’t get stories and Vids fictionalizing their adventures. They are the ones who you’ve never heard of and, if they get their way, you never will.

This series of articles will ignore the exceptions and focus on what comprises almost ninety-eight percent of the research findings: the every-day working criminal.

While it’s true that the average criminal gets to avoid things like ever-increasing taxes and landing tariffs, guild dues and insurance that burden the legitimate community, you have to keep in mind that they are burdened with persistent expenses of their own:

Ship Repairs

Most haulers, shippers, and average Citizens don’t take kindly to having their livelihood stolen. Latest statistics estimate that eighty percent of bandit attacks lead to a battle of some kind. Since your livelihood depends on attacking others, odds are you aren’t going to get out unscathed. Therefore, you can expect fairly regular trips to your mechanic. Which leads us to the illegal chop shops and patch-up joints around the systems that cater to the criminal element, clientele that won’t want the usual paper trail or will require illegal modifications/repairs. One can expect a significant mark-up price-wise to do business with these types, if they don’t find more profit in shooting you and taking your ship for themselves.

Legal Fees

If you get caught, the amount of Creds needed to mount an average legal defense is pretty staggering. Since most people don’t dream of being dumped on a PrisonWorld, you’ll want to keep a defense fund handy.

Low Offload Prices

One could view theft as the ultimate risk/reward. If pulled off without a hitch, it’s all profit, right? Sadly, the reality is much different. With cargo-tagging on the rise, it’s getting harder to move stolen merchandise so you either need to find a Buyer who’s willing to purchase stolen goods or a Fence who has the tech to re-tag the merch. Bottom line is that you will be getting well under market value for the goods, sometimes as much as 60% less than it is worth in legitimate sale. It’s a buyer’s market out there. You’re the one in possession of stolen goods, not them.

Medical Costs/Dangers

Like your ship, the criminal lifestyle will put you in all sorts of life-threatening predicaments anything from injury sustained during a heist to the ‘deal goes bad’ scenario. Whatever the reason, the odds are high that you will need to be patched up or have body parts replaced. Unfortunately, you can’t just waltz into your local MedStation or CyberDoc without risking suspicious doctors and surveillance feeds to the Advocacy so you are left dealing with underground doctors who will cut you to the bone with medical costs and hush money.

The Price of Identity

The criminal life is like quicksand; the more you ‘work’ the easier it will be to catch you. For every ship you hit, your reputation will grow which means that more local cops will be looking for you. Eventually, the Advocacy will get involved. To stay ahead of them, you have to minimize your identity impression. That means building up a cache of fake ID tags. As you move from system to system, you need to know what identities have been used and when, if there’s a possibility that the tag has “gotten dirty” by being linked to one of your attacks.

Bribes

There will be times where you will need to ‘grease some palms’ for information on shipping routes, cargo manifests, or for unscrupulous political and law enforcement to look the other way. As the UEE statutes on corruption and bribery carry stiff penal and financial penalties, the average criminal should be very careful when attempting to bribe someone regardless of whether it’s their first or fiftieth transaction.

Closing Statement

To me, it seems obviously that the financial strain of criminal endeavors feels vastly inferior to the potential rewards. Not to mention there is also the physical and psychological strain that existing in this world must have on your psyche.

Over the next few weeks, we will delve deeper into the world of the average criminal. Exploring each and every facet of what makes this world work, what draws in more and more men and women every year, and finally how one can hope to escape the whirlpool of the criminal lifestyle.

On December 07 2012 02:43 Mandini wrote:
So yeah, that criminal system seems far more punishing than EVE. It really sounds like it will be a massive pain to be a pirate, and that means it either needs to be rather easy to steal things, or the reward for piracy is high in some way. The way all of those points add either cost or inconvenience says to me that piracy will not be rewarding.

That being said piracy in and of itself in EVE isn't all that rewarding isk wise, but it is quite fun, and the consequences aren't really an inconvenience. If I had to do all of these extra things on my outlaw character, I wouldn't have let myself go outlaw, so there better be something really nice if one lets their SC character go down that route.

On December 07 2012 03:05 tofucake wrote:
imo the TL corp should just form a suicide squad

call ourselves The Scourge and just ram random people until everything explodes

On December 07 2012 03:05 tofucake wrote:
imo the TL corp should just form a suicide squad

call ourselves The Scourge and just ram random people until everything explodes

On December 07 2012 03:05 tofucake wrote:
imo the TL corp should just form a suicide squad

call ourselves The Scourge and just ram random people until everything explodes

On December 07 2012 07:55 Psyonic_Reaver wrote:
From the FAQ

Can I use my insurance as an excuse to simply ram other ships to death knowing I will get my ship back?

You can, but this will be a very bad idea as it is inconvenient and time consuming in getting your replacement ship ready to go again. Additionally there will be an increasing delay in replacing your ship every time you make a claim within a certain period of time.

On December 07 2012 08:11 Impervious wrote:

I'm not sure if that will actually accomplish anything.....

In EVE, I could just buy 100 ships if I had the cash, and when I start running low, I just buy 100 more and ship them where I'm expecting to need them, so I can reship in minutes.

If I can just get my ship back in SC, then why not just have 10 or so available for someone in a suicidal role, and cycle through them...