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drazak
United States479 Posts
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
On November 03 2012 06:09 Promethelax wrote: Does this mean that you have a town read on both Draz and me? If so why? Is Draz's name claim enough for you? What is it about me that makes you so sure? I don't find you or your predecessor particularly scummy. Also even if I wanted to lynch you I don't think realistically you have a possibility of getting lynched today. Buy my flavor theory or not. I'm going to vote for the bandwagon that I think has the best chance of flipping red. that is muso right now even tho I think he's probably town. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
On November 03 2012 06:21 kushm4sta wrote: I don't find you or your predecessor particularly scummy. Also even if I wanted to lynch you I don't think realistically you have a possibility of getting lynched today. Buy my flavor theory or not. I'm going to vote for the bandwagon that I think has the best chance of flipping red. that is muso right now even tho I think he's probably town. Wut? | ||
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
On November 03 2012 06:21 kushm4sta wrote: I don't find you or your predecessor particularly scummy. Also even if I wanted to lynch you I don't think realistically you have a possibility of getting lynched today. Buy my flavor theory or not. I'm going to vote for the bandwagon that I think has the best chance of flipping red. that is muso right now even tho I think he's probably town. Hedge your bets more. Go on, see if you can. So, let me see if I got this right: Because of your flavour theory you are 100% sure Draz is town, you feel the lynch is between him and Muso and since Draz is town you are voting muso. Is this correct? | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
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Promethelax
Canada7089 Posts
Draz: address my post concerning our contributions to the thread and give a read on me. | ||
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drazak
United States479 Posts
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
No to lynching Prom Yes to lynching Muso Almost yes to lynching draz (Facepalm to kush in general) | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
I explained.myself perfectly well I think. I dont think any of the 2 bandwagons are scum. It's pointless to vote for a random scumread I haven't even looked at a lot that no one else is voting for. So I am going with the scummier sounding role name, the liar. But.yeah not happy with either option. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
On November 03 2012 06:03 Promethelax wrote: Missed this, sorry Release. you are misunderstanding what I am saying (which in general means I should have worded it better). 1) His lynch seems like a coin flip, so it only has about a ~50% chance of netting us scum (that is Muso himself) you say 50%. We have no idea how many mafia there are but 4 or less is what i feel is accepted. This means either (not likely imo) you literally mean a coin flip or (more likely imo) you think that he is more scummy than each of the rest of town (except drazak). I don't see why you feel averse to lynching him because 50% is a very strong feeling in such a game as mafia. 2) a secondary point is that it also won't give us any information. you seem to mention this in context of the Muso thing so: so what? The or scum and this together states that you would rather lynch a townie to get information than a mafia that "gives us [no] information" which still, seems scummy. Yes, the wording and sentence structure around "or scum" is poor but this is a glaring slip. The if you are townie and flip w/o giving information: It begs of a "regardless of my alignment, don't lynch me (i just realized this next part) because I have not contributed in a way that would help town were I to die" - to me, that is definitely a slip. Some of this is a bit far-fetched, but those are what i see. we should lynch someone who has a higher chance of flipping scum (Draz) and who, no matter the flip will provide us with more information. The primary goal is the red flip, the secondary goal is what we can learn from the red/green flip. | ||
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Release
United States4397 Posts
Just my response in a different color. | ||
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kushm4sta
United States8878 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
I'm feeling less and less sure of a drazak lynch since he's returned... And as much as I hate to admit it, kush's flavor theory is swaying me a bit. However, I don't know who I would vote for out of everyone else in the game. I think I'm being too liberal with town reads this game... In any case, it looks like muso is likely going to be lynched with or without me, and drazak is less and less likely to be lynched. ##Unvote ##Vote Muso Ahhh, yet another wishy-washy D1 vote for fuba... | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17713 Posts
On November 01 2012 08:22 drazak wrote: While I think millers claiming early is good, I don't think they need to claim early D1, it gives mafia someone NOT to lynch as the miller doesn't have a useful role, we could have as many as 2 millers, not sure how many mafia there are (don't think it said in the op) but if it's 2 that means they have 9 possible lynch candidates, if there's 4 that's 7 lynch candidates. Just realized that explanation sucks, but basically what I'm saying is that it gives mafia a TON of information to claim millers so early. This shows Drazak does not understand the basic consequence of claiming miller. Well, either that, or he's scum and wants to be able to claim miller at a later date. That put Drazak into my "noob learning the ropes list". Gets into a little spat with Release. Usually I rather like that kind of thing, because it gives some good info, but this time I just came up null. Could be town, could be scum. Nothing interesting there. On November 02 2012 23:17 drazak wrote: I don't see any reason to change my vote, I honestly have no freaking clue why muso did what he did, but there's nothing town about it, if he is town, he's doing a very bad job establishing himself as town. I hope he isn't town though, a D1 mafia kill would definitely ensure our town victory. Tunneling on Muso: basically he has set his sights on the guy and will not reconsider new evidence. However, it also ties into the earlier thought that Drazak is fairly new to the game and doesn't understand the possibility of the strategy Muso played, if he's town. On November 03 2012 02:41 drazak wrote: I am actually sick of hearing about this theory, it's about flavor. All of the flavor is probably random, for all me know someone is flavor as a fucking cucumber. this is stupid and not good scum hunting. This post makes me lean town. It has the feel of someone irritated that someone else, who he has a townread on, is being dense. It doesn't feel like scum trying to gain brownie points by getting the discussion back on track. On November 03 2012 02:53 drazak wrote: Well, I'm just a little bit flustered by all the people making role claims and then going back on them and then claiming other shit, that's not how you play mafia. >.< I'll have better reads as night cones, with the flip. Useless post is useless. Not a scumtell to be confused, though. On November 03 2012 06:07 drazak wrote: Release actually tried to scumhunt, I'm seeing town on him, even though he still wants to vote for me. I don't think he's done anything to cause confusion, and I think he really wants to find a mafia right now, which is what I'm trying to do. Mattchew is also looking town, although I'd like him to be a bit more active, I don't think he'd say that he likes his gut instincts D1 if he didn't believe in them and have somewhat decent evidence, less town than release but definitely a town read. Hope has about the right amount of defensiveness for a townie, he's gone to lurk mode around lynch time which makes me a little nervous, everyone else seems to be here and willing to talk except him. Not sure what he's up to but when he starts posting again I hope he has a good explaination, I'm neutral on him right now. Thrawn has been trying his damnedest to scumhunt for a D1 hunt, not sure what he thinks he might actually accomplish, but he's asking questions like I should be (but I don't because I suck  ) and trying to make things happen. I find him distinctly town at the moment.risk.nuke has not a lot to go on in his filter, and every single one of his comments is 1 line and most of them are fluffy. I think this is even worse than my posts have been. I find him 2nd scummiest after muso. Kush is just doing his fucking trolly ass shit. Town meta for him 100% Zealos doesn't vote anyone and isn't happy with Acro or Muso, not sure what to think here, he wants to vote two of my town reads, not sure I like this, but might just not be following that closely. First real content. It actually aligns fairly well with my own thoughts. Conclusions: I see some bad play, I see some lazy play. I do NOT see a scum motive. And I was actually looking rather hard, because I don't want to vote Muso and it looks less and less like a Promethelax lynch is happening. The main problem with a scum Drazak is that he has ALL the opportunity in the world to just plain lurk... yet he posts anyway. That seems counterproductive as a scumplayer in his place, with a, supposedly, easy mislynch to phone in. If you want to switch the vote, I suggest risk.nuke, who really should be playing a LOT better than he is. But I am still on Promethelax. I will do one more brief post on him next. | ||
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Acrofales
Spain17713 Posts
On November 03 2012 06:31 mkfuba07 wrote: Ah, I see... That makes sense. Thx kush and drazak. I'm feeling less and less sure of a drazak lynch since he's returned... And as much as I hate to admit it, kush's flavor theory is swaying me a bit. However, I don't know who I would vote for out of everyone else in the game. I think I'm being too liberal with town reads this game... In any case, it looks like muso is likely going to be lynched with or without me, and drazak is less and less likely to be lynched. ##Unvote ##Vote Muso Ahhh, yet another wishy-washy D1 vote for fuba... Why not promethelax? | ||
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Hopeless1der
United States5836 Posts
On November 03 2012 01:34 Muso wrote: It's 3am here and I doubt I'll be awake for the end of day. It doesn't look like Promethelax is coming, and unfortunately lynching him is the only viable option here. Some of you believe otherwise, and I can't stop you. I urge you to trust Acro though (at least for today). He makes sense. If the lynch on me does go through, I implicitly urge you to revisit these last 6 hrs and look at players who were opposed to shifting attention off of me. Hopeless1der is one such player. If in the future Promethelax rolls town, I highly suggest interrogating Hopeless1der. In fact this kind of resistance just strengthens the case against Promethelax. I sincerely hope I get to revisit this post on Day 2, and if I don't please somebody else do it for me. Hopeless1der cannot be trusted. ##vote Promethelax If it was 3AM at time of post, its around 8AM now. He might be back before the deadline but I won't hold my breath. He's already said he probably wont make it. That's not scummy, thats needing sleep. The scummy part is where he says me continuing to push his lynch is scummy and that it makes the case on promethelax look stronger. This suggests we're both scum. However, if Prom flips town, we should interrogate me. So I'm scum no matter what, basically because I still want to lynch his lying ass. | ||
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
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drazak
United States479 Posts
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mkfuba07
United States1151 Posts
I actually have town vibes from Prome. I also never felt too convinced of prplhz's scumminess. Really gotta go now~ | ||
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thrawn2112
United States6918 Posts
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