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Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17911 Posts
November 02 2012 22:10 GMT
#441
Lol. Great time for TL to die. What happens now? Deadline extended? Or votes sealed in?
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17911 Posts
November 02 2012 22:10 GMT
#442
EBWOP: I got ninja'd!
drazak
Profile Joined November 2011
United States479 Posts
November 02 2012 22:10 GMT
#443
Read the cohost post.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2012 22:11 GMT
#444
wow there. TL just went down for me, sorry about my absence. Here is the post I was writing while TL dropped.

On November 03 2012 06:26 drazak wrote:
"Our" contributions to the thread? no immediate correction? sounds like a scum slip to me >.< I'll do it anyway, assuming you mean you and your predecessor.


I meant you and me actually.

Acro, you keep saying that you are reading me as green but that it isn't hard to look green for a few hours. Okay sure, does everyone look green to you? there are no scumtells besides those you got from prp? Really? You are setting yourself up for an excellent mislynch "oh woops, sorry guys he looked town but that guy before him looked scummy" I see why you think prp was scummy, I just think that pushing a replacement who seems like town is a poor choice. I know prp was scummy, sorry, I can't do anything about his behaviour whereas I am 100% responsible for my own.
In your situation who is my scumbuddy? Muso? Draz? who am I defending that makes you say that all I care about is that me and my scum buddy not dying?

Release: Sorry you don't see my point. We'll talk more about this later I guess. My point of the coin flip is that I don't see the scum tells or the town tells, I feel like lynching Muso has about the same chance as a random lynch, he is a little scummier than null but mostly his play is bad not indicative of red or green.

Thrawn: what do you see as scummy in Release's filter? Be explicit.
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Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2012 22:14 GMT
#445
So we have until 7:14 TL time.

Muso, it seems pretty clear that you are getting lynched, if you are around I'd love to here anything from you. Some reads or anything we can build on after your flip.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
HiroPro
Profile Joined March 2012
United States2624 Posts
November 02 2012 22:15 GMT
#446
Night 1



All day long the Kid sat watching TV. Looney Tunes was his favorite show and there was no way he was going to miss it.

That is until his mom told him to stop watching TV and go play outside. So the Kid made a wish and hoped that he too could join the cast of Looney Tunes.

Unfortunately for him, the Abominable Snowman only likes cute little bunny rabbits.

Muso (Kid Watching TV, Vanilla Townie) was crushed by the Abominable Snowman.


23 hours to send in night actions: 21:00 GMT (+00:00). There will then be a one hour action resolution period during which you may continue talking. The night will end at 22:00 GMT (+00:00)

+ Show Spoiler [Final Vote Count] +
Day 1 Vote Count


Release(0): Mattchew, thrawn2112, risk.nuke

Muso(8): Acrofales, risk.nuke, thrawn2112, Zealos, Promethelax, mkfuba07, Hopeless1der, drazak, kushm4sta, Mattchew, Release, DarthPunk, thrawn2112, kushm4sta, mkfuba07

drazak(1): Release, kushm4sta, Promethelax, mkfuba07

Promethelax(3): Acrofales, Muso, Muso, Release

Acrofales(0): kush4msta

Mattchew(0): Promethelax
Acrofales
Profile Joined August 2010
Spain17911 Posts
November 02 2012 22:16 GMT
#447
I'm not looking for your scumbuddy yet. Plenty of other people look scummy to me. I have some theories for who your scumbuddy is, but no point in saying anything about that until you actually flip red.

Seeing as it's going to be night and giving my scumreads right now will be completely irrelevant for the flip, I will post them at the end of the night.
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 02 2012 22:23 GMT
#448
On November 03 2012 07:16 Acrofales wrote:
I'm not looking for your scumbuddy yet. Plenty of other people look scummy to me. I have some theories for who your scumbuddy is, but no point in saying anything about that until you actually flip red.

Seeing as it's going to be night and giving my scumreads right now will be completely irrelevant for the flip, I will post them at the end of the night.


So, you are still convinced that I am scum? Wonderful. I look forward to hearing the rest of your, just as silly, cases.

Put your theories out in the thread. The more information town has the better off we are. If you choose to leave out the identity of my 'scum buddy' in your night post I will take that as a scum claim and vote you as soon as d2 starts (assuming I am still alive).

I'll be re reading the thread and posting thoughts soon. Have an idea but I have to check some filters first. Back soon.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 03 2012 01:32 GMT
#449
On November 01 2012 11:20 Release wrote:
Do not use this post later to claim that i am shifting attention off myself. I acknowledge that I am under suspicion.

So in the flurry of comment regarding the claiming, we seem to have dismissed the possibility of enacting a Lynch-all-liars policy. The main con i see if we do enact it is that we can't pull use fishing for reactions as freely. The main pro, however, is that people can't claim to be fishing for reactions. Another consequence is that more information is in the thread. Both town and mafia know more about true intentions and can react accordingly.

Personally, i am against such a policy because people can very easily say "i changed my mind" and blame/vindication will tend to be imposed base on a town/scum flip.

On November 02 2012 11:27 Release wrote:
##Vote: Muso

con-tra-dick-shun
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 03 2012 01:50 GMT
#450
On November 03 2012 10:32 Mattchew wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 01 2012 11:20 Release wrote:
Do not use this post later to claim that i am shifting attention off myself. I acknowledge that I am under suspicion.

So in the flurry of comment regarding the claiming, we seem to have dismissed the possibility of enacting a Lynch-all-liars policy. The main con i see if we do enact it is that we can't pull use fishing for reactions as freely. The main pro, however, is that people can't claim to be fishing for reactions. Another consequence is that more information is in the thread. Both town and mafia know more about true intentions and can react accordingly.

Personally, i am against such a policy because people can very easily say "i changed my mind" and blame/vindication will tend to be imposed base on a town/scum flip.

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 11:27 Release wrote:
##Vote: Muso

con-tra-dick-shun

You expected me to deliberately not vote what appeared to be very scummy behavior?
Hell, i could have chosen accro too if i wanted to lynch-all-liars. I chose Muso for the scummy manner in which he lied.
☺
Zealos
Profile Blog Joined November 2011
United Kingdom3571 Posts
November 03 2012 02:25 GMT
#451
Sorry everyone, horrid time for TL to drop. Would have voted Prom, as earlier stated. I wanna look over who voted Muso and why, because for me, he didn't look all too scummy towards the end of the day.
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Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 03 2012 02:46 GMT
#452
On November 03 2012 10:50 Release wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 10:32 Mattchew wrote:
On November 01 2012 11:20 Release wrote:
Do not use this post later to claim that i am shifting attention off myself. I acknowledge that I am under suspicion.

So in the flurry of comment regarding the claiming, we seem to have dismissed the possibility of enacting a Lynch-all-liars policy. The main con i see if we do enact it is that we can't pull use fishing for reactions as freely. The main pro, however, is that people can't claim to be fishing for reactions. Another consequence is that more information is in the thread. Both town and mafia know more about true intentions and can react accordingly.

Personally, i am against such a policy because people can very easily say "i changed my mind" and blame/vindication will tend to be imposed base on a town/scum flip.

On November 02 2012 11:27 Release wrote:
##Vote: Muso

con-tra-dick-shun

You expected me to deliberately not vote what appeared to be very scummy behavior?
Hell, i could have chosen accro too if i wanted to lynch-all-liars. I chose Muso for the scummy manner in which he lied.

His "very scummy behavior" was lying...
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Mattchew
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States5684 Posts
November 03 2012 02:49 GMT
#453
But fuck you didn't take the easy scum way out by saying "I didn't vote to lynch him though herp derp" bah why you gotta score townie points and fuck up my tunnel vision
There is always tomorrow nshs.seal.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
November 03 2012 04:12 GMT
#454
I don't want any surprises: is zealos going to be modkilled?
☺
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
November 03 2012 04:59 GMT
#455
Hey. Hungover as anything. But I am starting to catch up with the thread.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
kushm4sta
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States8878 Posts
November 03 2012 05:05 GMT
#456
Acrofales

There's the flavor theory but that is just one piece of the puzzle.

What are the odds of two town fake claiming?

I think it was a calculated scum risk.
Question to people who know mafia possibilities better than me: Is there some way scum could know muso was fake claiming?

Even if he didn't know, consider this: Would acro's claim have looked more scummy if Muso turned out to be mason? It seems like the is yes, but there is equal scumminess to action whether muso was mason or not. This is because when the action took place, acro had no way to know if the claim was fake or not. The only tool he had to discern the fake claim was his wits, which he has as mafia or town.
So don't let muso not being mason make you think his action is any less scummy.

His defense is that it would be retarded for scum to fake claim. Do you see how that logic is circular? It is retarded for scum to do that, therefore doing that makes you look town, therefore it is smart for scum to do that.

Also don't forget the flavor theory!
OMGUS.net, kush sex blogs every friday night
DarthPunk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia10854 Posts
November 03 2012 06:40 GMT
#457
Welp. Muso got himself lynched by fake claiming for no fucking reason then playing dumb and then not playing dumb. All in all he played pretty dumb.

I am super hungover and TL went down Whilst I caught up. But I have a few reads.

Despite prplz looking scummy to many, It is my policy to judge replacement on their actions and not those of their predecessor. And prome has been very pro town IMO. Obviously I am worried as I heard that in his newbie scum game he looked very pro town also.

I am concerned at acro tunnelling prom despite prom looking very townie to me. And the fact that it is based on a few bad posts from prplz irks me.

My biggest scum reads from my cursory glance of the thread are Drazak and release. I plan to go into filters and take a look around presently.

If anyone has any questions for me or would like my perspective on anything feel free to ask. I currently don't have the grasp on this game that I would usually like so some discussion would be rewarding I feel.

OK that's it. Im going do more reading in between LOL games.
"If I wanted your opinion, I'd have told you what it was."
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 03 2012 10:48 GMT
#458
On November 03 2012 14:05 kushm4sta wrote:
Acrofales

There's the flavor theory but that is just one piece of the puzzle.

What are the odds of two town fake claiming?

I think it was a calculated scum risk.
Question to people who know mafia possibilities better than me: Is there some way scum could know muso was fake claiming?

Even if he didn't know, consider this: Would acro's claim have looked more scummy if Muso turned out to be mason? It seems like the is yes, but there is equal scumminess to action whether muso was mason or not. This is because when the action took place, acro had no way to know if the claim was fake or not. The only tool he had to discern the fake claim was his wits, which he has as mafia or town.
So don't let muso not being mason make you think his action is any less scummy.

His defense is that it would be retarded for scum to fake claim. Do you see how that logic is circular? It is retarded for scum to do that, therefore doing that makes you look town, therefore it is smart for scum to do that.

Also don't forget the flavor theory!


This is a huge town tell on Kush. These were the thoughts I had as well but had not yet expressed due to the awful timing of that TL drop. Sorry I have been gone so long, work is a thing I have to do.

I don't know of any way for mafia to know someone's role at that point.

Kush. My name doesn't fit the theme you are looking at. How does that affect your read?

I would also point to Acro giving out the idea that Kush and I would look scummy if Muso flipped town. Setting up the next mislynch.

I'm curious Zealos, why would you have still voted me? I know you said you would because of prp but I think it is obvious that my actions are pro-town (decide for yourself whether they are townie or not).

DP: I only looked pro-town in that game because I took over early and lead town and scum around by the nose. Looking back on that game now I think that I (and my whole team) played terribly and I really don't know how I would play scum these days. My only other scum game was a total fail where I essentially 100% shat the bed and lost the game for my team. Look at my profile for links to those games.
I'd love to hear more from you about Acro, Release, Draz and Myself.

For the record Matt looks townier to me, he has been pressuring well and seems involved in this game. I no longer want to lynch him.


TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
risk.nuke
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2825 Posts
November 03 2012 10:59 GMT
#459
On November 03 2012 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Welp. Muso got himself lynched by fake claiming for no fucking reason then playing dumb and then not playing dumb. All in all he played pretty dumb.

I am super hungover and TL went down Whilst I caught up. But I have a few reads.

Despite prplz looking scummy to many, It is my policy to judge replacement on their actions and not those of their predecessor. And prome has been very pro town IMO. Obviously I am worried as I heard that in his newbie scum game he looked very pro town also.

I am concerned at acro tunnelling prom despite prom looking very townie to me. And the fact that it is based on a few bad posts from prplz irks me.

My biggest scum reads from my cursory glance of the thread are Drazak and release. I plan to go into filters and take a look around presently.

If anyone has any questions for me or would like my perspective on anything feel free to ask. I currently don't have the grasp on this game that I would usually like so some discussion would be rewarding I feel.

OK that's it. Im going do more reading in between LOL games.

That's just wrong. Replacements doesn't get a clean sheet.
Neo.G Soulkey, Best, firebathero. // http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31
Promethelax
Profile Joined February 2012
Canada7089 Posts
November 03 2012 11:05 GMT
#460
On November 03 2012 19:59 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 03 2012 15:40 DarthPunk wrote:
Welp. Muso got himself lynched by fake claiming for no fucking reason then playing dumb and then not playing dumb. All in all he played pretty dumb.

I am super hungover and TL went down Whilst I caught up. But I have a few reads.

Despite prplz looking scummy to many, It is my policy to judge replacement on their actions and not those of their predecessor. And prome has been very pro town IMO. Obviously I am worried as I heard that in his newbie scum game he looked very pro town also.

I am concerned at acro tunnelling prom despite prom looking very townie to me. And the fact that it is based on a few bad posts from prplz irks me.

My biggest scum reads from my cursory glance of the thread are Drazak and release. I plan to go into filters and take a look around presently.

If anyone has any questions for me or would like my perspective on anything feel free to ask. I currently don't have the grasp on this game that I would usually like so some discussion would be rewarding I feel.

OK that's it. Im going do more reading in between LOL games.

That's just wrong. Replacements doesn't get a clean sheet.


So, do I look scummy? Why? Show me where.
TL Mafia. Love it. Play it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 I find Kennigit really attractive. If anyone has a picture of him please feel free to PM it to me.
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