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On October 18 2012 05:02 Mementoss wrote: Kush:
kush has some super scummy posts day 1 trying to get 1der through hard and sandroba lynched, but he was the hammer on ON. kush was super scummy all of day 2. But kush defended me before it was cool (pre hopeless post) why would he do that as scum? Kush also pointed out hiros play day 1 looks townie, which it does. Kush pushing the hardest target, thrawn with little to no support and actually made a case on him. Overall, I think hes town, and might have got caught on the wrong end of that day 1 ON stuff. I had good reasons to vote 1der over ON and I would do it again next game given the same circumstance. He was gonna get modkilled probably I thought, so I saw no sense in lynching him. 1der was a scum read and ON was null. I prefer to lynch scum over null.
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On October 18 2012 05:08 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 05:02 Mementoss wrote: Kush:
kush has some super scummy posts day 1 trying to get 1der through hard and sandroba lynched, but he was the hammer on ON. kush was super scummy all of day 2. But kush defended me before it was cool (pre hopeless post) why would he do that as scum? Kush also pointed out hiros play day 1 looks townie, which it does. Kush pushing the hardest target, thrawn with little to no support and actually made a case on him. Overall, I think hes town, and might have got caught on the wrong end of that day 1 ON stuff. I had good reasons to vote 1der over ON and I would do it again next game given the same circumstance. He was gonna get modkilled probably I thought, so I saw no sense in lynching him. 1der was a scum read and ON was null. I prefer to lynch scum over null.
yeah it was similar to my thought process as well, then I realized I didn't want to lynch sandroba so the only option was ON
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Currently at
1. Mementoss 2-7. Dudes 8. Me
Thinking over mementoss's recent posts. Will reread games where I've accused him as town, as well as his scum games.
If nobody is really screaming scum, then it feels likely likely that either Djoref or kush is scum for the R3 votes on hopeless1der vs. ON. Again though, mementoss fits the bill there because he says he would drop votes except the matchup's already going the way he wants it to.
Not scummy on da0ud today. But he needs to keep contributing. Either there will be helpful stuff there OR he'll slip up.
HiroPro replacing out leaves me with him feeling townie early on, and I'm interested in seeing what a fresh pair of eyes does with the thread.
Still believe we have night actors. No way are kita/jingle being super sneaky in constantly saying "actionS" and "all actions" if nobody is taking night actions. Stay hidden.
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On October 18 2012 05:50 austinmcc wrote: Currently at
1. Mementoss 2-7. Dudes 8. Me
Thinking over mementoss's recent posts. Will reread games where I've accused him as town, as well as his scum games.
If nobody is really screaming scum, then it feels likely likely that either Djoref or kush is scum for the R3 votes on hopeless1der vs. ON. Again though, mementoss fits the bill there because he says he would drop votes except the matchup's already going the way he wants it to.
Not scummy on da0ud today. But he needs to keep contributing. Either there will be helpful stuff there OR he'll slip up.
HiroPro replacing out leaves me with him feeling townie early on, and I'm interested in seeing what a fresh pair of eyes does with the thread.
Still believe we have night actors. No way are kita/jingle being super sneaky in constantly saying "actionS" and "all actions" if nobody is taking night actions. Stay hidden. da0ud did the same thing mmt did with the R3 votes, and the way he did it seemed far more scummy to me. For the record I haven't given your most recent case on MMT a proper read and probably wont until I get home from work...so not until 4-6ish hours from now.
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@austin What would they say if there was only 1 night action? "Send your night action?" They are trying to not give it away. Your read on memetoss is suffering from serious confirmation bias. It's not right that you only have 1 real scum read, and then me and djo for some votes r3 d1. In other news, you are looking scummier and scummier: You admit to thinking memetoss is scum in EVERY game you play with him, yet you don't even consider the possibility this game that you are wrong about him. Well you consider it, perhaps, but not enough for you to have other scumreads. I would think as town you would realize your inherent confirmation bias on memetoss and move on to other suspects.
@town Does austin usually tunnel this hard? He wasn't doing this in liquid city.
@austin why are you even bringing up power roles again?
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On October 18 2012 05:54 Hopeless1der wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 05:50 austinmcc wrote: Currently at
1. Mementoss 2-7. Dudes 8. Me
Thinking over mementoss's recent posts. Will reread games where I've accused him as town, as well as his scum games.
If nobody is really screaming scum, then it feels likely likely that either Djoref or kush is scum for the R3 votes on hopeless1der vs. ON. Again though, mementoss fits the bill there because he says he would drop votes except the matchup's already going the way he wants it to.
Not scummy on da0ud today. But he needs to keep contributing. Either there will be helpful stuff there OR he'll slip up.
HiroPro replacing out leaves me with him feeling townie early on, and I'm interested in seeing what a fresh pair of eyes does with the thread.
Still believe we have night actors. No way are kita/jingle being super sneaky in constantly saying "actionS" and "all actions" if nobody is taking night actions. Stay hidden. da0ud did the same thing mmt did with the R3 votes, and the way he did it seemed far more scummy to me. For the record I haven't given your most recent case on MMT a proper read and probably wont until I get home from work...so not until 4-6ish hours from now. da0ud's just not on my list of suspects right now.
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On October 18 2012 06:00 kushm4sta wrote: @austin What would they say if there was only 1 night action? "Send your night action?" They are trying to not give it away. Your read on memetoss is suffering from serious confirmation bias. It's not right that you only have 1 real scum read, and then me and djo for some votes r3 d1. In other news, you are looking scummier and scummier: You admit to thinking memetoss is scum in EVERY game you play with him, yet you don't even consider the possibility this game that you are wrong about him. Well you consider it, perhaps, but not enough for you to have other scumreads. I would think as town you would realize your inherent confirmation bias on memetoss and move on to other suspects.
@town Does austin usually tunnel this hard? He wasn't doing this in liquid city.
@austin why are you even bringing up power roles again? I did not think mementoss was scum in Liquid City. I did not think mementoss was scum in Aperture 2 (Or, to be more specific, I would not have thought so IF I were town that game) In Rockband I thought he was scum. In LVII I didn't, but I think he replaced in after I was dead. In PTP3 I was convinced he was town.
So actually, scratch that. I swear there was another game where I thought he was scum but I can't find it going through recent filters. GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I DON'T think mementoss is scummy in every game I play with him. Just had a string of games (I SWEAR THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BESIDES ROCKBAND) where I think he's scum, and then faked a case on him in Aperture 2.
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@austin you have several walls of text on memetoss and If nobody is really screaming scum, then it feels likely likely that either Djoref or kush is scum for the R3 votes on hopeless1der vs. ON. is the totality of your other scum reads.
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On October 18 2012 06:08 kushm4sta wrote:@austin you have several walls of text on memetoss and Show nested quote +If nobody is really screaming scum, then it feels likely likely that either Djoref or kush is scum for the R3 votes on hopeless1der vs. ON. is the totality of your other scum reads. I heard I have a scumread on mementoss.
That's more a general comment to others, and something to keep in mind.
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On October 18 2012 06:07 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 06:00 kushm4sta wrote: @austin What would they say if there was only 1 night action? "Send your night action?" They are trying to not give it away. Your read on memetoss is suffering from serious confirmation bias. It's not right that you only have 1 real scum read, and then me and djo for some votes r3 d1. In other news, you are looking scummier and scummier: You admit to thinking memetoss is scum in EVERY game you play with him, yet you don't even consider the possibility this game that you are wrong about him. Well you consider it, perhaps, but not enough for you to have other scumreads. I would think as town you would realize your inherent confirmation bias on memetoss and move on to other suspects.
@town Does austin usually tunnel this hard? He wasn't doing this in liquid city.
@austin why are you even bringing up power roles again? I did not think mementoss was scum in Liquid City. I did not think mementoss was scum in Aperture 2 (Or, to be more specific, I would not have thought so IF I were town that game) In Rockband I thought he was scum. In LVII I didn't, but I think he replaced in after I was dead. In PTP3 I was convinced he was town. So actually, scratch that. I swear there was another game where I thought he was scum but I can't find it going through recent filters. GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I DON'T think mementoss is scummy in every game I play with him. Just had a string of games (I SWEAR THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BESIDES ROCKBAND) where I think he's scum, and then faked a case on him in Aperture 2. So this was a lie or what?
On October 11 2012 00:17 austinmcc wrote: I think I've been suspicious of townMementoss in every game I've played with him, something he does always gives me a mafia read on him.
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On October 18 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 06:07 austinmcc wrote:On October 18 2012 06:00 kushm4sta wrote: @austin What would they say if there was only 1 night action? "Send your night action?" They are trying to not give it away. Your read on memetoss is suffering from serious confirmation bias. It's not right that you only have 1 real scum read, and then me and djo for some votes r3 d1. In other news, you are looking scummier and scummier: You admit to thinking memetoss is scum in EVERY game you play with him, yet you don't even consider the possibility this game that you are wrong about him. Well you consider it, perhaps, but not enough for you to have other scumreads. I would think as town you would realize your inherent confirmation bias on memetoss and move on to other suspects.
@town Does austin usually tunnel this hard? He wasn't doing this in liquid city.
@austin why are you even bringing up power roles again? I did not think mementoss was scum in Liquid City. I did not think mementoss was scum in Aperture 2 (Or, to be more specific, I would not have thought so IF I were town that game) In Rockband I thought he was scum. In LVII I didn't, but I think he replaced in after I was dead. In PTP3 I was convinced he was town. So actually, scratch that. I swear there was another game where I thought he was scum but I can't find it going through recent filters. GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I DON'T think mementoss is scummy in every game I play with him. Just had a string of games (I SWEAR THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BESIDES ROCKBAND) where I think he's scum, and then faked a case on him in Aperture 2. So this was a lie or what? Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 00:17 austinmcc wrote: I think I've been suspicious of townMementoss in every game I've played with him, something he does always gives me a mafia read on him.
As far as I know, that's actually a lie. I swear there's another game where I accuse him of being scummy, but it turns out when I go look through them that I'm not always scummy on him.
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Where does that take you kush?
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On October 18 2012 06:12 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On October 18 2012 06:11 kushm4sta wrote:On October 18 2012 06:07 austinmcc wrote:On October 18 2012 06:00 kushm4sta wrote: @austin What would they say if there was only 1 night action? "Send your night action?" They are trying to not give it away. Your read on memetoss is suffering from serious confirmation bias. It's not right that you only have 1 real scum read, and then me and djo for some votes r3 d1. In other news, you are looking scummier and scummier: You admit to thinking memetoss is scum in EVERY game you play with him, yet you don't even consider the possibility this game that you are wrong about him. Well you consider it, perhaps, but not enough for you to have other scumreads. I would think as town you would realize your inherent confirmation bias on memetoss and move on to other suspects.
@town Does austin usually tunnel this hard? He wasn't doing this in liquid city.
@austin why are you even bringing up power roles again? I did not think mementoss was scum in Liquid City. I did not think mementoss was scum in Aperture 2 (Or, to be more specific, I would not have thought so IF I were town that game) In Rockband I thought he was scum. In LVII I didn't, but I think he replaced in after I was dead. In PTP3 I was convinced he was town. So actually, scratch that. I swear there was another game where I thought he was scum but I can't find it going through recent filters. GOOD NEWS EVERYONE! I DON'T think mementoss is scummy in every game I play with him. Just had a string of games (I SWEAR THERE'S ANOTHER ONE BESIDES ROCKBAND) where I think he's scum, and then faked a case on him in Aperture 2. So this was a lie or what? On October 11 2012 00:17 austinmcc wrote: I think I've been suspicious of townMementoss in every game I've played with him, something he does always gives me a mafia read on him.
As far as I know, that's actually a lie. I swear there's another game where I accuse him of being scummy, but it turns out when I go look through them that I'm not always scummy on him.
Im pretty sure its every game but than you think im town later, PTP you thoguth I was scum.
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My quotes on you from PTP3:On August 26 2012 03:16 austinmcc wrote: Almost 100% convinced that Mementoss is town based on one thing he said, and I seem to have good luck when I get that feeling.
On August 29 2012 03:20 austinmcc wrote: Jingle, for what it's worth, I'm really not finding mementoss scummy.
On August 29 2012 04:19 austinmcc wrote: In fact Dirk, after continuing to look over the last couple pages, I'm finding all the major commenters right now townie? Or at least not scum, I guess we could have some third parties still. Everyone seems to be struggling to pin down exactly what's happened, which feels relatively townie. In most cases, each person is trying to get information to help answer some question (what happened to last night's KP, etc.), and those feel like townie objectives to me as well. Because I'm reading both the questions and the answers sought as townie things, I'm not currently finding mementoss, JH, or you (to a lesser extent, because I still don't have a perfect grasp of the early stuff I missed and I know you were involved there). I actually never find you scummy that game.
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On October 18 2012 06:15 austinmcc wrote: Where does that take you kush? it takes me to orgasm
1-3 thrawn djodref austin ( in no order) 4-7 dont give a shit
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In Rockband I went scum --> town based on your claim.
In LVII you replaced in after I was dead.
In PTP3 I was explicitly townie on you, always.
In Liquid City I found something in your filter weird, but never put together a full read on you either way.
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On October 18 2012 06:18 kushm4sta wrote:it takes me to orgasm 1-3 thrawn djodref austin ( in no order) 4-7 dont give a shit Okay, as long as the answer wasn't "AUSTIN SCUMZZZZZZZ" I'm fine with that.
If I lie about always finding mementoss scummy, then I'm lying to weaken my own case, which...I wouldn't do as scum (or as town, my badz). Just happened to misremember, it seems we both do.
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Does my logic make sense about austin? Any feedback on it. It just seemed a little weird to me. It put me off compared to aperture mentality.
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Last question austin (I don't want to thrawn you to death): How sure are you that memetoss is scum? I would expect you to be pretty close to 100% since you are so single mindedly tunneling him.
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On October 18 2012 06:22 Mementoss wrote: Does my logic make sense about austin? Any feedback on it. It just seemed a little weird to me. It put me off compared to aperture mentality. Yeah it makes sense. You are definitely more knowledgeable about his scum meta and town meta than me.
But disregarding meta, I think it is a very attractive option for scum to pick a believable tunnel target. It gives them a really safe and easy way to produce content and look town. It gives them an excuse for being apathetic towards voting (well my tunnel target isn't up for lynch so I dont care).
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