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On August 30 2011 02:12 Lucidity wrote: I thought I was the only one seeing this shit. wherebugsgo decides X is mafia/town, and then takes every post that player has made and turns it into pro-scum/pro-town, whichever serves his preconceived notions. You don't decide a player's alignment and then build a case around that, you do it the other way around. Sometimes it's hard to look at things objectively when you go into an analysis thinking someone is scum (I was going to post a "supersoft is scum" analysis and while rereading all his posts realised that he wasn't as confirmed scum as I thought going into the analysis), but all your TL;DR analyses read like tunneling/scum painting to me. :\
I've had this bad gut feeling about you all game long, but then you also contribute A LOT, which threw me off. But after the nard and bum flips play out I'm definitely looking at you again. Your massive posts are daunting, but perhaps that was your plan to deter people from analyzing them -.- I haven't read any of your cases and thought, "Hmmm, yes I really like what this guy is saying!".
12 Town vs 5 Mafia, "BUT WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO", as if we're on our way to winning. 12v5 is a terrible situation for us. "BE CAUTIOUS" you say. Then in the very same post you say, "DONT DOUBT YOURSELVES". Lolwut?
Vain is Mafia turns in to Vain is 100% town and bum is framing him, based off of nothing really. BB/bum is almost certain to be lynched next, your massive analysis was overkill. But it had a purpose: To save Vain. Mafia can vote for other mafia mate, especially if nard/bum is more important than Vain.
Really need to see these people flip and go from there.
So you're going to sit back and let him get away with doing this after nailing it on the head dude? If nard is scum and I get lynched tomorrow it will be at 7v4 when the next kills roll in, and even if we lynch vain>WBG right after, it will be 3v2 which is VERY difficult for town to win in. You can't wait to see flips at this point you have think it all out like you just did and act.
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You nard and Vain are very likely scum imo. I'm not suggesting we lynch you for information, but the information gained from your flips will be very helpful in the end game. That's what I meant.
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On August 29 2011 23:41 Barundar wrote: Mind giving us the rest of your reads vain, as well as your role text?
By the way. Supersoft looks town to me. he was talking waaaaaaaaaaaay to much about nard even in the beginning in the game. Also he was very active from the beginning of the game. Started about mig at day 2.Also If xtfftc turns out to be scum we can be almost sure he's town. If not i still would put him as town
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I asked for scum reads. Way to easy for mafia to give town reads.
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On August 30 2011 02:23 bumatlarge wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 02:12 Lucidity wrote: I thought I was the only one seeing this shit. wherebugsgo decides X is mafia/town, and then takes every post that player has made and turns it into pro-scum/pro-town, whichever serves his preconceived notions. You don't decide a player's alignment and then build a case around that, you do it the other way around. Sometimes it's hard to look at things objectively when you go into an analysis thinking someone is scum (I was going to post a "supersoft is scum" analysis and while rereading all his posts realised that he wasn't as confirmed scum as I thought going into the analysis), but all your TL;DR analyses read like tunneling/scum painting to me. :\
I've had this bad gut feeling about you all game long, but then you also contribute A LOT, which threw me off. But after the nard and bum flips play out I'm definitely looking at you again. Your massive posts are daunting, but perhaps that was your plan to deter people from analyzing them -.- I haven't read any of your cases and thought, "Hmmm, yes I really like what this guy is saying!".
12 Town vs 5 Mafia, "BUT WE STILL HAVE WORK TO DO", as if we're on our way to winning. 12v5 is a terrible situation for us. "BE CAUTIOUS" you say. Then in the very same post you say, "DONT DOUBT YOURSELVES". Lolwut?
Vain is Mafia turns in to Vain is 100% town and bum is framing him, based off of nothing really. BB/bum is almost certain to be lynched next, your massive analysis was overkill. But it had a purpose: To save Vain. Mafia can vote for other mafia mate, especially if nard/bum is more important than Vain.
Really need to see these people flip and go from there. So you're going to sit back and let him get away with doing this after nailing it on the head dude? If nard is scum and I get lynched tomorrow it will be at 7v4 when the next kills roll in, and even if we lynch vain>WBG right after, it will be 3v2 which is VERY difficult for town to win in. You can't wait to see flips at this point you have think it all out like you just did and act. weird. I'm almost 100% certain that we'll be at 7v3 after lynching you. I think you forgot to subtract the one.
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On August 30 2011 03:18 Barundar wrote: I asked for scum reads. Way to easy for mafia to give town reads.
Sucks i can't just magically make scum appear. If i'm scum you want all reads you can get. If i turn out town you don't get any information from my town or scum reads. It's the reasoning behind the reads that seperates the scum from town. Now the next time when you feel to call someone out just close teamliquid and take a break. There was nothing in your post that asked for scumreads
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On August 30 2011 03:30 Vain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 03:18 Barundar wrote: I asked for scum reads. Way to easy for mafia to give town reads. Sucks i can't just magically make scum appear. If i'm scum you want all reads you can get. If i turn out town you don't get any information from my town or scum reads. It's the reasoning behind the reads that seperates the scum from town. Now the next time when you feel to call someone out just close teamliquid and take a break. There was nothing in your post that asked for scumreads Let's sum it up it's Day 4 Vain did nothing so far has no scum candidates gentlemen LOCK 'N' LOAD
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Indeed. But finding convincing reasons why someone is mafia is a lot more difficult for a mafia than a town. You aren't lynched yet, but i don't get the feeling you want to prove your innocense.
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On August 30 2011 03:30 Vain wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 03:18 Barundar wrote: I asked for scum reads. Way to easy for mafia to give town reads. Sucks i can't just magically make scum appear. If i'm scum you want all reads you can get. If i turn out town you don't get any information from my town or scum reads. It's the reasoning behind the reads that seperates the scum from town. Now the next time when you feel to call someone out just close teamliquid and take a break. There was nothing in your post that asked for scumreads reads mean scumreads. townreads are beyond useless, unless you're discussing a lynch candidate who you believe to be town.
this post literally SCREAMS scum. Especially the bolded part. yes we do, we get the opinions of somebody we know the alignment of, which is impossible while you're alive. You've claimed that you're town, so why don't you go about proving it? Scumhunt, weigh in on suspects, DO SOMETHING.
Also, telling people not to call people out is bad. Really bad. WBG, read this post, and tell me if he's town that got framed. I seriously can't believe how you think that, especially after reading posts like this.
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So you basically said you don't want to give reads cause if you were scum, it's bad for you, and it you're town we don't get any info from it? Yeah ok lol. The fact that you even mentioned that if you WERE scum it'd be bad for you is telling enough for me. I'm pretty sure my check was correct. Lynch him tomorrow.
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On August 30 2011 03:51 chaoser wrote: So you basically said you don't want to give reads cause if you were scum, it's bad for you, and it you're town we don't get any info from it? Yeah ok lol. The fact that you even mentioned that if you WERE scum it'd be bad for you is telling enough for me. I'm pretty sure my check was correct. Lynch him tomorrow. I'd be quite disappointed in our vigis if he's still alive tomorrow (assuming kurumi isn't the only one) A double lynch would be nice right about now.
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Sorry, havent read much of thread since last night of kills... Did whoever was saved last night come out yet? Or Did mafia actually only kill 2 people :s
So far, seems like Nard is the leading candidate, and one of either vain or bugs is scum. I think Nard will be the best pick because foolishness clearly knew for SURE that he was scum.
Therecan still be doubts about chaosers claim sinceit COULD be mafia trying to cause a mislynch especially based on the timing that he revealed himself. It seemed like prime time for scum to tey and draw attention away from nard so they get another night of 3 KP which would give us nearly no room for error... Theres a way to be sure about it though, if chaoser survives the next night, we know he is scum and lynch him for trying to mislead us. If he doesnt, we know he was right and lynch Vain...
So for tonight,
##Vote: Nard
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On August 30 2011 03:51 chaoser wrote: So you basically said you don't want to give reads cause if you were scum, it's bad for you, and it you're town we don't get any info from it? Yeah ok lol. The fact that you even mentioned that if you WERE scum it'd be bad for you is telling enough for me. I'm pretty sure my check was correct. Lynch him tomorrow.
No, i'm just doing one person at a time and when i find a scum read i'll let you know:\
I don't think i'll be around for long because of my not very pro-town behaviour so i figured i catch up and look for anything you might have missed.
On August 30 2011 03:38 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 03:30 Vain wrote:On August 30 2011 03:18 Barundar wrote: I asked for scum reads. Way to easy for mafia to give town reads. Sucks i can't just magically make scum appear. If i'm scum you want all reads you can get. If i turn out town you don't get any information from my town or scum reads. It's the reasoning behind the reads that seperates the scum from town. Now the next time when you feel to call someone out just close teamliquid and take a break. There was nothing in your post that asked for scumreads reads mean scumreads. townreads are beyond useless, unless you're discussing a lynch candidate who you believe to be town. this post literally SCREAMS scum. Especially the bolded part. yes we do, we get the opinions of somebody we know the alignment of, which is impossible while you're alive. You've claimed that you're town, so why don't you go about proving it? Scumhunt, weigh in on suspects, DO SOMETHING. Also, telling people not to call people out is bad. Really bad. WBG, read this post, and tell me if he's town that got framed. I seriously can't believe how you think that, especially after reading posts like this.
I am just filtering people one by one and trying to reason why someone is town/scum. If you see something faulty in my reasoning or see a hidden agenda give me a call. How the fuck are you otherwise gonna know if i'm scum or not. Your just like chaos and lucid in your nice little world where i'm undoubtedly scum, while the mafia is just laughing their asses off because their plan worked out perfectly. Also i don't proofread my posts for scummy behaviour because i'm not scum
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On August 30 2011 03:55 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2011 03:51 chaoser wrote: So you basically said you don't want to give reads cause if you were scum, it's bad for you, and it you're town we don't get any info from it? Yeah ok lol. The fact that you even mentioned that if you WERE scum it'd be bad for you is telling enough for me. I'm pretty sure my check was correct. Lynch him tomorrow. I'd be quite disappointed in our vigis if he's still alive tomorrow (assuming kurumi isn't the only one) A double lynch would be nice right about now.
Ye, shooting me would be better. Please don't waste a lynch on me:\
Btw, i vote nard
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On August 28 2011 23:41 Barundar wrote:
Can a watcher watch himself? Watchers cannot watch themselves.
Also, power is back! I might actually be able to write the night post and everything!
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Ahhhhhhh don't modkill me! sorry I had my power go out the day after the hurricane, ok I didn't miss a vote but give me time to catch up, if the night post is like about to happen then
##Vote Brownbear
just so I have a vote in but really I have to read everything from the last day or so.
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On August 30 2011 04:36 Navillus wrote: Ahhhhhhh don't modkill me! sorry I had my power go out the day after the hurricane, ok I didn't miss a vote but give me time to catch up, if the night post is like about to happen then
##Vote Brownbear
just so I have a vote in but really I have to read everything from the last day or so. you've got a little over 6 hours (i think, might be 5)
brownbear has been replaced with bumatlarge.
foolishess flipped watcher when scum killed him, before he died said that nard was scum.
On August 28 2011 10:55 Foolishness wrote: nard is 100% mafia. If I die it will be instantly clear how I know this information.
Yes it's 100%. I wanted to bring this information up yesterday but the timing never came, especially after Mig claimed. It should be clear why I had everyone write up what they thought about those 3 people. Make sure to look at the people who didn't respond to that (there are a few who did, and they are all on my suspect list). Kill nard today so that the mafia will have their KP reduced.
Mafia list: nard, BrownBear, Barundar, Pyo, RayzorFlash. If one of those flip green then Erandorr.
chaoser claimed dt with a guilty check on vain. On August 28 2011 11:11 chaoser wrote: Alright guys, since foolishness has fallen, I fear soon for my life...
I am a DT
Inquisitor - welcome to TL Mafia XLIV you are High Inquisitor Scarn, here in liquidia on independent assignment to lead the actions against the cult. You are perhaps the oldest living inquisitor, and with age comes experience and wisdom . You scorn weapons as below the dignity of an Inquisitor, instead you will use your investigative abilities to crush the cult.You may check a player each night and see if he is Innocent or Guilty . Be cautious however, ever since you took a blow to the head while facing off against the Deamon Lord Sepultus in the ancient abandoned temple of the burning flame you have been unsure of the reliability of your investigative abilities and even of your grasp on reality.
I checked Mig night one and got back guilty which is why I've been on his ass for so long. To check my own sanity I checked Foolishness night two and got back green so I know I'm sane. When mig flipped red it proved it beyond a doubt. I checked vain last night and got back [r]red[/r]. I say we lynch vain today over since I'm more sure of his scumminess over nard's.
EDITTED: in exactly how my pm looks
we need to lynch scumatlarge asap, but nard is getting lynched first because he's scum according to a confirmed blue.
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Oh lol I was here when brownbear switched out I just forgot, ok so
##Unvote ##Vote Nard
Has there been any discussion or confirmation of chaoser's sanity?
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On August 30 2011 04:53 Navillus wrote: Oh lol I was here when brownbear switched out I just forgot, ok so
##Unvote ##Vote Nard
Has there been any discussion or confirmation of chaoser's sanity?
On August 28 2011 11:11 chaoser wrote: I checked Mig night one and got back guilty which is why I've been on his ass for so long. To check my own sanity I checked Foolishness night two and got back green so I know I'm sane. When mig flipped red it proved it beyond a doubt. I checked vain last night and got back red. I say we lynch vain today over since I'm more sure of his scumminess over nard's. He's sane as sane can be.
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