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On August 21 2011 07:13 MooMooMugi wrote: Whoever said Taeja is bad is terribly wrong, hes in the semifinals of Code A this season and has TWO All-Kills in the GSTL
Thank you I came here to say that.
I would love to see Puzzle go to Slayers, they really need a strong protoss and Puzzle is an incredible player. gogo puzzle!
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On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote: The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?
Notable Homegrown players:
SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi EG: Idra, Incontrol
Incontrol isn't anywhere close to any of those SlayerS players I listed, and I'm not sure where IdrA stands, but I highly doubt he's at the level of any of those SlayerS players I listed either. Maybe BoxeR a while ago, but it seems that BoxeR has improved a ton, so I don't know about that anymore. On homegrown players alone, EG could only dream of being even a fraction of the team that SlayerS is. The difference is that EG felt like a team that didn't have any good players (by good, I mean Korean good, with IdrA being the only player that can hope to come close), so they went and bought some good ones. SlayerS feels like an already extremely powerful team (2 wins in the GSTL, 3 players in Code S (two who advanced from their group 2-0), 2 in the Code A semifinals) adding even more strong players to their roster. The difference is huge. One is a team that is, by international standards, pretty weak. The other is a team that is, by international standards, incredibly strong.
I wouldn't count either Idra or Ganzi as homegrown. Ganzi was on IM and Idra was the best non-Korean player in the world when EG acquired him.
And the comparison isn't that SlayerS is EG, but that they are becoming like them, which is certainly the direction all teams are headed towards considering all the good players are already on teams.
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Actually i saw this one coming, if true. When i herd that Slayers picked up Coca, i thought at that point i would have also made a lot of since (if not more sense) to pick up another good Protoss. As im actually not aware of Slayers having any good Protoss past Alicia. ( Tiffiany? Brown?)
Even before Coca, they had more Z than P. Golden, Yughio, Min, Cella (kinda).
I guess one more player won't make a big difference, however Slayers is so frickin HUGE right now. How many players do they have on their roster? Im Glad that they are trying to get a more rounded team. Though they just have so many players, its all most too many at this point.
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On August 21 2011 07:32 LionKiNG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote: The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?
Notable Homegrown players:
SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi EG: Idra, Incontrol
Lol Incontrol, also IdrA was bw player that played in Korea, EG doesn't have to do a thing with him, DeMuslim was also accuired, and look at them now, both doing poorly, they ruined players, ruined...We will see what will happen with Huk and PuMa... ruined ... demuslim??? WHAT???
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wow slayers becoming like SK in counter-strike, take out key players from other teams and ruined them
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On August 21 2011 07:32 LionKiNG wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote: The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?
Notable Homegrown players:
SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi EG: Idra, Incontrol
Lol Incontrol, also IdrA was bw player that played in Korea, EG doesn't have to do a thing with him, DeMuslim was also accuired, and look at them now, both doing poorly, they ruined players, ruined...We will see what will happen with Huk and PuMa... man, demuslim broked his arm and recovering like a year from it. EG has nothing to do about it, still they support him for all this time. Also he is really strong now. So don't talk sh!t
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On August 21 2011 07:52 HQuality wrote: wow slayers becoming like SK in counter-strike, take out key players from other teams and ruined them
How exactly has SlayerS "ruined" these players you speak of? Go on...
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On August 21 2011 10:12 mango_destroyer wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 07:52 HQuality wrote: wow slayers becoming like SK in counter-strike, take out key players from other teams and ruined them How exactly has SlayerS "ruined" these players you speak of? Go on...
I think he meant ruining teams.
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Slayers shoulda picked Sickness too lol. They could become the best team atm with deepest line up for each race.
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Hmm, if Puzzle leaves then ZeNeX disbanding might actually happen. I'm not sure what will happen in the GSTL though.
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I hate when teams lose players to other teams, hope zenex won't disband over this .
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On August 21 2011 07:53 HQuality wrote:Show nested quote +On August 21 2011 07:32 LionKiNG wrote:On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote: The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?
Notable Homegrown players:
SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi EG: Idra, Incontrol
Lol Incontrol, also IdrA was bw player that played in Korea, EG doesn't have to do a thing with him, DeMuslim was also accuired, and look at them now, both doing poorly, they ruined players, ruined...We will see what will happen with Huk and PuMa... man, demuslim broked his arm and recovering like a year from it. EG has nothing to do about it, still they support him for all this time. Also he is really strong now. So don't talk sh!t
It was two months...not a year...
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Slayers need to bribe byun with a dog house =)
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I am VERY dissapointed in Slayers. They should create their own baby instead of stealing another's child.
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On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote: The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?
Notable Homegrown players:
SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi EG: Idra, Incontrol
Incontrol isn't anywhere close to any of those SlayerS players I listed, and I'm not sure where IdrA stands, but I highly doubt he's at the level of any of those SlayerS players I listed either. Maybe BoxeR a while ago, but it seems that BoxeR has improved a ton, so I don't know about that anymore. On homegrown players alone, EG could only dream of being even a fraction of the team that SlayerS is. The difference is that EG felt like a team that didn't have any good players (by good, I mean Korean good, with IdrA being the only player that can hope to come close), so they went and bought some good ones. SlayerS feels like an already extremely powerful team (2 wins in the GSTL, 3 players in Code S (two who advanced from their group 2-0), 2 in the Code A semifinals) adding even more strong players to their roster. The difference is huge. One is a team that is, by international standards, pretty weak. The other is a team that is, by international standards, incredibly strong.
Idra was never close to Boxer's level. Every time before they faced each other. Idra always said he would crush Boxer or Korean, but the results were 2:0 for Boxer every meeting.
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On August 21 2011 12:24 ReaperX wrote: Hmm, if Puzzle leaves then ZeNeX disbanding might actually happen. I'm not sure what will happen in the GSTL though.
Here's to hoping it doesn't happen, as ZeNeX has been doing pretty well, but if they did leave the GSTL after this season, that would open up a spot for EG =P
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hope puzzle improves fast at slayers, he has so much potential : ) would love to see him being a star. hes already good, but under the guidance of cella/boxer the skys the limit
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On August 20 2011 21:57 StUfF wrote: Slayers is the EG OF KOREA.
They have the money! Sponsored by Razer!
Sorry guys. Forgot my /sarcasm tag. I thought the random ALL CAPS would more obvious!
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illsick
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if ZeNEX dies, GOM probably won't be able to field enough teams for GSTL. They are barely able to with the foreigners making up the the majority of f.united team. ZeNEX had a nice lineup of byun, puzzle, and coca... why slayers have to ruin that
Slayers have a 26 player roster atm, cmon lol
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On August 21 2011 15:32 illsick wrote:if ZeNEX dies, GOM probably won't be able to field enough teams for GSTL. They are barely able to with the foreigners making up the the majority of f.united team. ZeNEX had a nice lineup of byun, puzzle, and coca... why slayers have to ruin that Slayers have a 26 player roster atm, cmon lol
Actually, there are other Korean teams that not many people know. During the Code A qualification, there were a couple interviews with players from those "unknown" teams; and they even have team house and many of their players are on KR GM. One of the players interviewed mentioned that he quit his salary job for full time starcraft training at his team house. Even Wolf said something about those teams during casting.
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