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Djagulingu
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Germany3605 Posts
August 21 2011 07:11 GMT
#221
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.
"windows bash is a steaming heap of shit" tofucake
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
August 21 2011 07:20 GMT
#222
On August 21 2011 14:27 koolaid1990 wrote:
I am VERY dissapointed in Slayers. They should create their own baby instead of stealing another's child.

I hate comparisons like this. Stealing someone's child isn't comparable to acquiring a player on another team. Lol
I feel like if you need to use an example of something else to get an idea across, it's because the point wasn't very strong to begin with. I imagine you have a much more intelligent point to get across.
Slayers as a team is trying to do the best they can. They're out to get sponsorship and make money. It's their job.
Furthermore, Coca could not have been acquired without Coca's word on it. If you want to be mad at someone, be mad at Coca. Slayers was just creating more opportunities for Coca. Even then though, it's likely to be a very beneficial experience for Coca, to be on the team that is able to be so innovative and does things like sending many of their players to MLG. Slayers probably has a much smoother path ahead of them too, because they're sort of the team everyone has their eye on, and as such they're capable of getting a lot of sponsorship.
TERRANLOL
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States626 Posts
August 21 2011 07:22 GMT
#223
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.


I don't think either EG or Slayers deserves to be given shit about acquiring players. I feel like it's stupid to expect players who aren't under contract to let opportunities pass by just because of a sort of tradition based principle.
DisaFear
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Australia4074 Posts
August 21 2011 07:28 GMT
#224
Would love to see Puzzle on SlayerS, just makes my favourite team even more likeable
Though if he joined NSHoseo, it would become the SlayerS of Protoss lol
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Maghetti
Profile Joined May 2008
United States2429 Posts
August 21 2011 07:28 GMT
#225
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.

1. No, it has nothing to do with this, it has to do with bashing on her over Eve.
2. This is a load of crap, people were angry at how they picked up PuMa(There is no need to mention Huk at all) by reportedly not talking to coach Lee before hand. They did talk to the coach of ZeNeX for CoCa and the Puzzle thing is still a rumor. Also, ruder!? If by that you mean they did nothing rude at all then sure. Ridiculous claim
3. finally something I can agree with.
MurMiLLo
Profile Joined February 2011
United States260 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 07:41:42
August 21 2011 07:37 GMT
#226
whoa whoa whoa u cant compare the situation between EG and slayers to each other. like wtf have u been reading. EG BOUGHT Puma and HuK. that's fine, i really don't care it gives those guys an opportunity to have good financial backing, which is cool in my opinion as it only helps esports. They haven't grown any players that are doing well. What SlayerS did was see 2 very good players with potential and said "Hey, these guys look really good and they deserve better. We can maybe offer better pay and living conditions for them so they get what they deserve. Besides, our P and Z line up could get better, so it would be good overall." The argument against slayers saying that they dont grow their players, are you fuckin kidding me??!?!?!?!?? MMA, GanZi, Min, Taeja, and Alicia were NOBODIES before SlayerS. Now theyre doing great!! We should be happy that Puzzle and Coca got picked up by SlayerS because it gives better chances to grow as players and live better. Sure its sad that ZeNEX lost basically their star players but its for the greater good, and not to sound mean or anything but would u rather be on SlayerS, the team that has rising stars and BoxeR, or ZeNEX???? Most people don't seem to understand that everything is about the player in the end, not the team.

A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.


The reason why people were pissed off at EG was because they basically took PuMa from TSL without consulting with the coach. Mad about Huk because TL lost their best player and people felt he was great on TL because whenever someone would think of the image of team liquid they would say Huk.

HolyArrow
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States7116 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 07:48:24
August 21 2011 07:43 GMT
#227
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.


Personally, I disliked how EG acquired PuMa and HuK not because of method of acquisition but mainly because I really dislike the concept of an overall weak team by international standards getting strong by buying their best players. On the other hands, the situation with SlayerS is more like an already extremely strong team by international standards acquiring even more players to solidify themselves. In other words, I judge a team by how well they can nurture their own players, and SlayerS has already proven to me that they can nurture some absolutely amazing players, while EG... not so much.

The difference is also how people perceive the fate of the development of players that are picked up. There are perfectly legitimate concerns regarding PuMa and HuK's practice conditions following the pickup, since they aren't in the TSL/oGs-TL houses anymore, and the team house environment filled with extremely strong players proves to be the most successful training environment by far. Contrast this with SlayerS which will basically give Puzzle and Coca an equal or perhaps better training environment than before.
doihy
Profile Joined August 2010
668 Posts
August 21 2011 07:50 GMT
#228
why should slayersw be given shit about getting players? you get to hang out with boxer ffs , what player would pass off an opportunity to be on the same team as boxer?

Rhaegar99
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Australia1190 Posts
August 21 2011 07:55 GMT
#229
do players in slayers get a salary?
Nefariously
Profile Joined December 2010
277 Posts
August 21 2011 08:02 GMT
#230
without puzzle the roster doesn't look so hot
now ask me if i care
CrisisNOOB
Profile Joined May 2011
United States39 Posts
August 21 2011 08:08 GMT
#231
But Puzzle is the team captain. A captain switching seems a lot less normal than other players switching. Despite Sheth leaving FXO (and I believe he was labeled as the captain) I cant imagine other captains such as MMA leaving SlayerS or RainBOw leaving Startale.

If he does make the switch, then it's awesome news though :D
NOOB is allcaps cuz it's srsbsns
Torumfroll
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
290 Posts
August 21 2011 08:23 GMT
#232
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.

Totally bro! Slayers were so rude! I mean who goes to speak with the coach when you want to recruit a player?! And whats that shit about a third party witness during the negotiations between the two parties? PREPOSTEROUS I TELL YOU!
Radook
Profile Joined August 2010
Sweden326 Posts
August 21 2011 08:29 GMT
#233
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.


What you expect on the internet with alot of pre-teens that don´t really read the full posts and just copy+paste what someone else said to follow what other people said.

Most people with some kind of business knowledge know that EG and SlayerS didn't do anything wrong.
Woop Woop!
kidd
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States2848 Posts
August 21 2011 09:29 GMT
#234
On August 21 2011 17:29 Radook wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.


What you expect on the internet with alot of pre-teens that don´t really read the full posts and just copy+paste what someone else said to follow what other people said.

Most people with some kind of business knowledge know that EG and SlayerS didn't do anything wrong.


What EG and SlayerS did aren't anywhere near the same due to plenty of different circumstances already outlined in the thread and from a business perspective, nothing is wrong as long as your business still strives and profits from the actions. The issue with EG is more from a moral/courteous/polite standpoint.

Back on topic, I hope this is more than a rumor. SlayerS acquiring Puzzle would vastly help both parties and since I like both, it'd only be good news.
Hi
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
August 21 2011 09:50 GMT
#235
... Liquid acquired Sheth didn't they, used to be FXO?

No matter what, I think it's basically fine to acquire players. As long as you do it profesionally, which I think EG have done. And pretty much everyone does.

Just look at soccer ... so many transfers every season. It's just part of being a professional sport.

I like Puzzle, no matter the truth about the situation, whether or not he is joining a new team, I hope it turns out the best it can for him. His play is really fun to watch imho.
marxgarza
Profile Joined January 2011
United States373 Posts
August 21 2011 10:10 GMT
#236
On August 21 2011 18:50 aebriol wrote:
... Liquid acquired Sheth didn't they, used to be FXO?

No matter what, I think it's basically fine to acquire players. As long as you do it profesionally, which I think EG have done. And pretty much everyone does.

Just look at soccer ... so many transfers every season. It's just part of being a professional sport.

I like Puzzle, no matter the truth about the situation, whether or not he is joining a new team, I hope it turns out the best it can for him. His play is really fun to watch imho.


Sheth left FXO and He later signed onto Liquid (a week?) later.
Silence is golden, duct tape is silver
aebriol
Profile Joined April 2010
Norway2066 Posts
August 21 2011 10:19 GMT
#237
On August 21 2011 19:10 marxgarza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 18:50 aebriol wrote:
... Liquid acquired Sheth didn't they, used to be FXO?

No matter what, I think it's basically fine to acquire players. As long as you do it profesionally, which I think EG have done. And pretty much everyone does.

Just look at soccer ... so many transfers every season. It's just part of being a professional sport.

I like Puzzle, no matter the truth about the situation, whether or not he is joining a new team, I hope it turns out the best it can for him. His play is really fun to watch imho.


Sheth left FXO and He later signed onto Liquid (a week?) later.

It's somewhat off topic but ...

It just seems like staggered announcements to avoid stupid drama. It was such a short time between those two that I really don't see a big difference personally. Can't really know if the deal was in place or not when he left (either way, absolutely nothing wrong with it, and I like sheth as well).
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
August 21 2011 15:16 GMT
#238
On August 21 2011 18:50 aebriol wrote:
... Liquid acquired Sheth didn't they, used to be FXO?

No matter what, I think it's basically fine to acquire players. As long as you do it profesionally, which I think EG have done. And pretty much everyone does.

Just look at soccer ... so many transfers every season. It's just part of being a professional sport.

I like Puzzle, no matter the truth about the situation, whether or not he is joining a new team, I hope it turns out the best it can for him. His play is really fun to watch imho.

At least in this, Sheth and FXO and different views and amicably parted ways before Sheth joined Liquid. Unless there are some behind the scenes and Liquid approached Sheth while he was in FXO and Sheth left FXO for that very reason
mprs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada2933 Posts
August 21 2011 15:36 GMT
#239
On August 21 2011 16:22 TERRANLOL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 16:11 Djagulingu wrote:
A few things from me:
1- Now we have the actual reason why Jessica is closing her twitter.
2- EG acquires PuMa and HuK: "EG IS A PIECE OF SHEET !!!!11111", SlayerS acquire CoCa and Puzzle: "They would be sone great addition to the team YAAAAAAAY !!!11111". They essentially did the same thing in an approximately same manner (SlayerS were a little bit ruder than EG but whatever), yet they get very very very different reactions. I don't know which one is true.
3- Good luck to Puzzle and CoCa at SlayerS.


I don't think either EG or Slayers deserves to be given shit about acquiring players. I feel like it's stupid to expect players who aren't under contract to let opportunities pass by just because of a sort of tradition based principle.


I don't think you understand what happened. People weren't mad about EG acquiring a player from another team. They were mad that the best player (and foreigner) was leaving their favorite team to go to their less-favored team. Regardless of what people say, that is pretty much the sole reason why people reacted violently.

In this case, a favorite acquired players, and therefore, there is a positive outlook.

If EG acquired Axslav from Dignitas, it would be a 3 page thread. If Axslav was on TL and was doing well in the GSL and also a fan favorite, then you would get the exact same thing. Buying players is how ever sport works... why would this be different?
We talkin about PRACTICE
Sandermatt
Profile Joined December 2010
Switzerland1365 Posts
August 21 2011 15:43 GMT
#240
On August 21 2011 18:50 aebriol wrote:
... Liquid acquired Sheth didn't they, used to be FXO?

No matter what, I think it's basically fine to acquire players. As long as you do it profesionally, which I think EG have done. And pretty much everyone does.

Just look at soccer ... so many transfers every season. It's just part of being a professional sport.

I like Puzzle, no matter the truth about the situation, whether or not he is joining a new team, I hope it turns out the best it can for him. His play is really fun to watch imho.



Liquid didn't aquire Sheth from FXO. FXo trew sheth more or less out, because he didn't want to train in korea. Than team liquid picked him up.
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