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CurLy[]
Profile Joined August 2010
United States759 Posts
August 20 2011 22:36 GMT
#201
On August 21 2011 07:13 MooMooMugi wrote:
Whoever said Taeja is bad is terribly wrong, hes in the semifinals of Code A this season and has TWO All-Kills in the GSTL


Thank you I came here to say that.

I would love to see Puzzle go to Slayers, they really need a strong protoss and Puzzle is an incredible player. gogo puzzle!
Great pasta mom, very Korean. Even my crown leans to the side. Gangsta. --------->
DonaldLee
Profile Joined August 2010
586 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 22:42:43
August 20 2011 22:41 GMT
#202
On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote:
The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?

Notable Homegrown players:

SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi
EG: Idra, Incontrol

Incontrol isn't anywhere close to any of those SlayerS players I listed, and I'm not sure where IdrA stands, but I highly doubt he's at the level of any of those SlayerS players I listed either. Maybe BoxeR a while ago, but it seems that BoxeR has improved a ton, so I don't know about that anymore. On homegrown players alone, EG could only dream of being even a fraction of the team that SlayerS is. The difference is that EG felt like a team that didn't have any good players (by good, I mean Korean good, with IdrA being the only player that can hope to come close), so they went and bought some good ones. SlayerS feels like an already extremely powerful team (2 wins in the GSTL, 3 players in Code S (two who advanced from their group 2-0), 2 in the Code A semifinals) adding even more strong players to their roster. The difference is huge. One is a team that is, by international standards, pretty weak. The other is a team that is, by international standards, incredibly strong.


I wouldn't count either Idra or Ganzi as homegrown. Ganzi was on IM and Idra was the best non-Korean player in the world when EG acquired him.

And the comparison isn't that SlayerS is EG, but that they are becoming like them, which is certainly the direction all teams are headed towards considering all the good players are already on teams.
Cyanocyst
Profile Joined October 2010
2222 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 22:44:34
August 20 2011 22:43 GMT
#203
Actually i saw this one coming, if true. When i herd that Slayers picked up Coca, i thought at that point i would have also made a lot of since (if not more sense) to pick up another good Protoss. As im actually not aware of Slayers having any good Protoss past Alicia. ( Tiffiany? Brown?)

Even before Coca, they had more Z than P. Golden, Yughio, Min, Cella (kinda).

I guess one more player won't make a big difference, however Slayers is so frickin HUGE right now. How many players do they have on their roster? Im Glad that they are trying to get a more rounded team. Though they just have so many players, its all most too many at this point.
|| Fruit Dealer | Leenock | Yughio | Coca | Sniper | True | Solar | Dark |
Hardigan
Profile Joined June 2011
Switzerland1297 Posts
August 20 2011 22:49 GMT
#204
On August 21 2011 07:32 LionKiNG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote:
The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?

Notable Homegrown players:

SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi
EG: Idra, Incontrol

Lol Incontrol, also IdrA was bw player that played in Korea, EG doesn't have to do a thing with him, DeMuslim was also accuired, and look at them now, both doing poorly, they ruined players, ruined...We will see what will happen with Huk and PuMa...

ruined ... demuslim??? WHAT???
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
August 20 2011 22:52 GMT
#205
wow slayers becoming like SK in counter-strike, take out key players from other teams and ruined them
No carpal tunnel no skill
HQuality
Profile Joined October 2009
2682 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-20 22:53:54
August 20 2011 22:53 GMT
#206
On August 21 2011 07:32 LionKiNG wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote:
The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?

Notable Homegrown players:

SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi
EG: Idra, Incontrol

Lol Incontrol, also IdrA was bw player that played in Korea, EG doesn't have to do a thing with him, DeMuslim was also accuired, and look at them now, both doing poorly, they ruined players, ruined...We will see what will happen with Huk and PuMa...

man, demuslim broked his arm and recovering like a year from it. EG has nothing to do about it, still they support him for all this time. Also he is really strong now. So don't talk sh!t
No carpal tunnel no skill
mango_destroyer
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada3914 Posts
August 21 2011 01:12 GMT
#207
On August 21 2011 07:52 HQuality wrote:
wow slayers becoming like SK in counter-strike, take out key players from other teams and ruined them



How exactly has SlayerS "ruined" these players you speak of? Go on...

Oktyabr
Profile Joined July 2011
Singapore2234 Posts
August 21 2011 03:17 GMT
#208
On August 21 2011 10:12 mango_destroyer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 07:52 HQuality wrote:
wow slayers becoming like SK in counter-strike, take out key players from other teams and ruined them



How exactly has SlayerS "ruined" these players you speak of? Go on...



I think he meant ruining teams.
tuho12345
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
4482 Posts
August 21 2011 03:22 GMT
#209
Slayers shoulda picked Sickness too lol. They could become the best team atm with deepest line up for each race.
ReaperX
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Hong Kong1758 Posts
August 21 2011 03:24 GMT
#210
Hmm, if Puzzle leaves then ZeNeX disbanding might actually happen. I'm not sure what will happen in the GSTL though.
Artosis : Clide. idrA : Shut up.
nicknt
Profile Joined October 2010
185 Posts
August 21 2011 04:12 GMT
#211
I hate when teams lose players to other teams, hope zenex won't disband over this .
SRBNikola
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
Serbia191 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 05:00:13
August 21 2011 05:00 GMT
#212
On August 21 2011 07:53 HQuality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 21 2011 07:32 LionKiNG wrote:
On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote:
The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?

Notable Homegrown players:

SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi
EG: Idra, Incontrol

Lol Incontrol, also IdrA was bw player that played in Korea, EG doesn't have to do a thing with him, DeMuslim was also accuired, and look at them now, both doing poorly, they ruined players, ruined...We will see what will happen with Huk and PuMa...

man, demuslim broked his arm and recovering like a year from it. EG has nothing to do about it, still they support him for all this time. Also he is really strong now. So don't talk sh!t


It was two months...not a year...
Hikari
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
1914 Posts
August 21 2011 05:13 GMT
#213
Slayers need to bribe byun with a dog house =)
koolaid1990
Profile Joined September 2010
831 Posts
August 21 2011 05:27 GMT
#214
I am VERY dissapointed in Slayers. They should create their own baby instead of stealing another's child.
TDN3
Profile Joined August 2011
United States81 Posts
August 21 2011 05:36 GMT
#215
On August 21 2011 07:07 HolyArrow wrote:
The comparison of SlayerS to EG is completely ridiculous. SlayerS has 3 of their homegrown players in Code S, and three of them in Code A (BoxeR is out, but he was in Code A this season by qualifying legitimately, so it makes sense to count him). What does EG have?

Notable Homegrown players:

SlayerS: MMA, Alicia, Ryung, BoxeR, Taeja, Ganzi
EG: Idra, Incontrol

Incontrol isn't anywhere close to any of those SlayerS players I listed, and I'm not sure where IdrA stands, but I highly doubt he's at the level of any of those SlayerS players I listed either. Maybe BoxeR a while ago, but it seems that BoxeR has improved a ton, so I don't know about that anymore. On homegrown players alone, EG could only dream of being even a fraction of the team that SlayerS is. The difference is that EG felt like a team that didn't have any good players (by good, I mean Korean good, with IdrA being the only player that can hope to come close), so they went and bought some good ones. SlayerS feels like an already extremely powerful team (2 wins in the GSTL, 3 players in Code S (two who advanced from their group 2-0), 2 in the Code A semifinals) adding even more strong players to their roster. The difference is huge. One is a team that is, by international standards, pretty weak. The other is a team that is, by international standards, incredibly strong.


Idra was never close to Boxer's level. Every time before they faced each other. Idra always said he would crush Boxer or Korean, but the results were 2:0 for Boxer every meeting.
lunchrush
Profile Joined March 2011
United States138 Posts
August 21 2011 06:08 GMT
#216
On August 21 2011 12:24 ReaperX wrote:
Hmm, if Puzzle leaves then ZeNeX disbanding might actually happen. I'm not sure what will happen in the GSTL though.


Here's to hoping it doesn't happen, as ZeNeX has been doing pretty well, but if they did leave the GSTL after this season, that would open up a spot for EG =P
There is no order in the world around us, we must adapt ourselves to the requirements of chaos instead. -Kurt Vonnegut
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-21 06:21:58
August 21 2011 06:21 GMT
#217
hope puzzle improves fast at slayers, he has so much potential : ) would love to see him being a star. hes already good, but under the guidance of cella/boxer the skys the limit
https://twitter.com/#!/IrisAnother
StUfF
Profile Joined September 2010
Australia1437 Posts
August 21 2011 06:25 GMT
#218
On August 20 2011 21:57 StUfF wrote:
Slayers is the EG OF KOREA.

They have the money! Sponsored by Razer!


Sorry guys. Forgot my /sarcasm tag. I thought the random ALL CAPS would more obvious!
illsick
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1770 Posts
August 21 2011 06:32 GMT
#219
if ZeNEX dies, GOM probably won't be able to field enough teams for GSTL. They are barely able to with the foreigners making up the the majority of f.united team. ZeNEX had a nice lineup of byun, puzzle, and coca... why slayers have to ruin that

Slayers have a 26 player roster atm, cmon lol
you live and you learn
TDN3
Profile Joined August 2011
United States81 Posts
August 21 2011 06:51 GMT
#220
On August 21 2011 15:32 illsick wrote:
if ZeNEX dies, GOM probably won't be able to field enough teams for GSTL. They are barely able to with the foreigners making up the the majority of f.united team. ZeNEX had a nice lineup of byun, puzzle, and coca... why slayers have to ruin that

Slayers have a 26 player roster atm, cmon lol


Actually, there are other Korean teams that not many people know. During the Code A qualification, there were a couple interviews with players from those "unknown" teams; and they even have team house and many of their players are on KR GM. One of the players interviewed mentioned that he quit his salary job for full time starcraft training at his team house. Even Wolf said something about those teams during casting.
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